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indifferentinfatuation · 1 year

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ft. tutor and his obsession with fighter's adam's apple

#love it when a couple has a thing that's unique to them #and maybe i've just missed it but i haven't seen this (at least not this prominently) in any other bl #thai bl #saintzee #zeesaint #fightertutor #why r u #why r u the series #thai drama #tutorfighter #saint suppapong #zee pruk

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hopelesslyfallenfortheboys · 1 year

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Thai bl fandom:- An outsider's analysis

TayNew: Polcas are literal saints! Be patient and u will be rewarded!

SingtoKris: Yes, Perayas still exit! Polygamy is allowed! Next Polcas maybe?

MewGulf: Wanjais busy writing fanfics our there ! Best photoshop artists but worst FBIs.

OffGun: OGs! Most rewarding. Babiis out there watching all their fanfic moments being played out in real.

BKPP: Penguins striving to be next Babiis. Never heard of divorce eras and never ready for one.

SantaEarth: Breath of fresh air. Terrified of divorce eras. Simps for two fashion icons!

Earthmix: Literal Hangers. What do they do when their ship just sails itself serving moments after moments? Best FBI agents for the most subtle (but clumsy) otp.

BrightWin: Even they don't know why they are there, scraping romance out of bromance

OhmNanon: Ronans being a group of Ohm fans and Nanon fans. Nightmare. 'Expect nothing and you will never be disappointed' gang. Mostly fights among themselves. Dramatic for the couple with the perfect talent and chemistry ever on screen!

JimmySea: Where are you????!!

FirstKhao (or KhaoFirst?) : Group of First fans and Khao fans. Literal paradise. Anything for the smiles of their two sunshines. Must be protected at all costs

GeminiForth: Fans are literal guard dogs for the sweetest otp. Babies.

BounPrem: Broccolis out there dissecting romance from bromance.

JoongDunk: Literally waiting for the next Earthmix.

ForceBook: Give us some content?!!!!!

PondPhuwin: Mostly there to simp their literal babies. Wack-head fans for their wack-head otp who are designated EarthMix shippers.

ZeeNew: Ehm... fans jobless just out there waiting for the wedding

MileApo: Horny bitches with daddy fantasies for two of the sexiest men out there

MaxTul: Husbands? Friends with Benefits? Brothers? Soulmates? As long as they are together...oh yes Polygamy, threesome, swinging... FireFlies allow everything.

JeffCode: Mothers who will die to keep their precious otp safe.

BibleBuild: Literal teardrops and shoulders to cry on... Hello Darkness My Old Friend...

MikeTop: Erm...

ZeeSaint: Er...

PerthSaint: Eh..

PerthChimon: Ronans with zero drama!

NanonChimon: Midyears still waiting...

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gothicbarbie · 1 year

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MY TOP 15 BL’S OF 2020

WOW, 2020 was A YEAR. This was hard ranking these but I'll try my best...

1. Where Your Eyes Linger [Korean] - One of my all time favorite series, I think because I really felt the chemistry between the actors in this one. I love the whole bodyguard sort of trope as well and the writing in this was so well done imo. I loved the tension filled moments and build up between the two. I just wanted moreeeee.

2. I Told Sunset About You [Thai] - Season 2 was iffy but season 1 was AMAZING from start to finish. I felt like I watching a movie. The writing, the scenery, the build up for the main pair... it was all so well done.

3. Color Rush [Korean] - The storyline for this BL is just so fun, I really loved the entire premise of this world. The chemistry between the two was nice and Korea does such a good job of building up the connection between their pairings. I'm sad that season 2 dipped a bit in quality and that season 1 felt a tad unfinished, but I still really enjoyed it.

4. Why R U [Thai] - This was a well done BL that was fun, I enjoyed the chemistry between Saint and Zee and I didn't find the drama or the angst overwhelmingly frustating. Plus it had a nice side ship and I liked the love scenes too.

5. 2gether [Thai] - I know people love this one, and I really enjoyed it too. It's perfect for those with a sweet tooth. There are some really great affectionate/sweet moments betweeen the main pairing. It was also the first BL I ever watched (if you don't count waterboyyy way back in the day lol) so it has a soft spot in my heart. But I do think it was a tad too safe for me. I prefer my BL's to have angstier/hotter moments throughout. The ending kiss made up for things, but it was unreastic to not have a proper kiss beore that. JMO.

6. Manner of Death [Thai] - I saw a gif of maxtul from this on tumblr and it's what originally got me into BL's. It spiked my interest. I see those two as the grandfathers of BL because they have been in so many things together, and their connection is so strong. I enjoyed this one a lot because it was a more mature series, and had it's own vibe/feel to it that I really appreciated.

7. TharnType Season 2 [Thai] - Season 2 wasn't as strong as season 1 for me but it was still enjoyable. I was really into Mew/Gulf and their chemistry when I first started watching BL's because it felt so genuine to me, and T+T was one of the first shows to really push the boundaries with the intimacy. Solid season.

8. Your Name Engraved Herein [Taiwan] - This was such a beautiful movie, with a positive ending, and I really loved watching it. It was depressng at times, but overall I just think it was so well done.

9. Mr. Heart [Korean] - Recently rewatched this series and it was so good! So fun and enjoyable. Loved the storyline, it felt pretty unique. I enjoyed the connection between the main two. What brings it down for me a bit is some of the physical moments in the series, like when one of them would hit the other... not for me. But overall, I could look past some of things because I enjoyed the rest of it.

10. Cherry Magic [Japan] - Such a cute and fun series, and definitely one of the most memorable ones for Japan. I had a bit of an issue with the intimacy stuff (they really couldn't even peck on the lips once??? It felt too platonic to me at times) but that aside, it was well written and a great watch.

11. Boy’s Lockdown [Filo] - This is actually my favorite of all the "quarantine" related series we got after Covid. To me, it was cute and fun and we got to see the main two come together in a nice and organic way. It was a good mix of different content.

12. Gaya Sa Pelikula [Filo] - Some cheesey/annoying moments for me, mostly regarding the sister character, but the rest of the series was nicely done. It also sort of felt like a mini movie. It has a slightly different vibe for me from other Filo series. I enjoyed it a lot.

13. Wish You [Korea] - Not my ultimate favorite series from Korea but it was well done. Wish I had more to say about it haha. But it was good.

14. Hello Stranger [Filo] - Another quarantine related story, and for a "web series" where the characters never really met til the end, it was really enjoyable. It was a great depiction of what students were going through during covid and I liked the way they went from scene to scene and did different interactions.

15. Because of You [Taiwan] - Def. some low/cheesey moments in this one as well but it was the first Taiwan series that I saw, so I enjoyed how different it felt compared to the other countries. Taiwan definitely has it's own style too. I liked that there were three couples in this one, and I enjoyed all three storylines.

Honorary Mentions: I'm not going into details with any of these series, overall I found parts of them enjoyable, but there were things I didn't love overall. But still worth checking out.

Korea: Craving You

Japan:Life: Love on the Line, HIS

Filo: My Day, Gameboys, Quaranthings, Cheat the Series

Thai: Gen Y, Present Still Perfect, Ingredients, En of Love, My Engineer, Saifahzon, My Gear Your Gown

Also check out my lists from other years! https://gothicbarbie.tumblr.com/post/705678223200174080/my-top-bls-of-2019-and-earlier https://gothicbarbie.tumblr.com/post/705227666795741184/my-top-15-bl-series-of-2021 https://gothicbarbie.tumblr.com/post/705139242020618240/my-top-20-bl-series-of-2022

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ladycamdens · 10 months

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all due respect to zeenewnunew but i think the reason i could never get into their work together is i will never be over zaintsee/saintzee. nothing compares to their onscreen chemistry for me and i will forever be mourning what could have been

#zeenunew #zaintsee #saintzee

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negrowhat · 1 year

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saintzee could have been everything, imagine how many amazing series we would have gotten with them. but, then they had a messy break-up and ruined it :(

Hey anon! I totally agree! I feel like ZaintSee could've been like...THAT pairing. Saint and Zee definitely have that range to play any sort of dynamic. That's part of the reason why I don't really vibe with ZeeNuNew. I feel like they're going to continue to play similar characters to LianKuea. I feel like their new prince series is going to have similar character vibes to LianKuea. I could be wrong but I'm nowhere near invested to find out.

I don't even know what happened between Saint and Zee but I just feel like Saint is just tired of being a BL actor. I know he likes being an actor but the BL industry just has not been kind to him. I'm glad he's been given the chance to produce some series though because Secret Crush on You is really great and GAP the Series isn't perfect but man is it raking in high views for Idolfactory. I want him to do a job that he loves and that loves him back.

I'm hoping for nothing but the best for Saint and Zee but ya girl misses the magical chemistry they had on screen.

#saintzee #zeesaint #zaintsee #zee pruk #saint suppapong

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theflagscene · 1 year

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Hello!

Would you be able to share more about the issue with Zee and Saint? I have never heard about this before and I really thought they had great chemistry. O.o

You’re right, they had great chemistry. Zee was a fan of Saint long before he ever started acting and credited Saint for helping him learn the ropes and really bringing his acting skill up to a professional level while they worked together on Why R U? They had a great behind the scenes friendship and often showed up to support one another at events, Zee even surprised Saint on his birthday with a cake and gifts at a fan meet before the pair went out for dinner together. Zee waited until 11:59pm to tweet out his birthday message to his ‘Nong Bunny’ because he wanted to be the last one that got to say it to Saint before the day ended, so clearly their friendship was great.

Then the downfall started, Saint playfully joked in a couple interviews about Zee falling asleep during a photoshoot they were doing, which was honestly a sweet story about a poor overworked guy, but Zee’s management did not take kindly to it and according to bts sources, started to treat Saint coldly because they thought he was trying to paint Zee in an unprofessional light. Considering Saint’s history with being treated like shit by his acting partners management team (ie: Perth’s manager claiming the only reason Saint was so being offered so many roles after LBC aired was because he was being ‘offered’ up to powerful men in the industry by his management team) Saint and his management team did not take kindly to Zee’s team trying to drag him, they weren’t going to let it get to the level of scandal that had happened with Perth.

Just a note: Perth’s manager rescinded his claims and apologized on his IG for claiming that Saint - who was still just a teenager at the time - was selling his body for roles, which there was never any proof of him doing. And even if he had been some sort of sex worker, that would’ve been no one’s business but his own to begin with.

Back to Zee, because of this, Saint pulled back slightly and was less chatty about Zee. Although a lot of Zee’s fans saw this as Saint attacking Zee and his work ethic, so they started harassing Saint online which again just caused Saint to step back further. Then a pretty damning 2017 video of Zee harassing women on the street as part of a hidden camera DMD segment surfaced where he asked them if he could ‘milk’ them, leaving people pretty disgusted. Zee and his people tried to do damage control and put out a statement about how wrong it was that he had taken part and that he’d grown as a person, etc. By that point Saint had pretty much stopped all public communication with Zee for not only his own mental health but also to keep his career as far away from that misogyny as possible. Whenever asked about their relationship, both claim nothing is wrong and that they were friends and everything is fine behind the scenes. Although Zee’s lack of attendance at Saint’s graduation did not go unnoticed, as he had many of his Why R U costars and Idol Factory actors there with him to congratulate him.

They did a couple more meets together, although they were distant and there is no fanservice at all. They are very professional and kind, but the comfort they once had with each other was clearly lacking. To this day, Saint will often get asked about both Perth and Zee. He and Perth are still very good friends, because it was neither of them that started the issue back during the LBC era, instead it was Perth’s then manager. They both talk often, according to them. Whereas when asked about Zee, Saint gives a generic answer of how Zee is a busy man, talented and of course he and Zee get along. Although it seems as if they haven’t had any actual one on one contact in quite a few years, and any time Zee is asked about Saint he tends to change the subject pretty quickly.

Considering Zee is the older of the two, I was shocked at how badly he handled everything at the time. Saint was hardly perfect, he vague tweeted a few times and did pout a bit, but he was still barely in his twenties at the time while Zee was already in his mid/late twenties and should’ve handled the hurt feelings of a kid better than he did. I like Zee as an actor, but as a person, he seems sort of smug and self important. Which makes me worry about Nunew’s future with their ship, because he’s so much younger than Zee, I hate to think of yet another kid getting crushed under his boot as a stepping stone for bigger and better things.

#anon answered #zeesaint #saintzee #BL actors #zee pruk #saint suppapong #nunew chawarin #I don’t dislike Zee so I don’t need any of his fans coming at me #I’m just sharing what happened #what I remember seeing and reading about #because of those things I feel like my concern for Nunew is valid #perthsaint #perth tanapon

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mariinqueerland · 6 months

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it only took me 84 years to delete all the mewgulf and zaintsee stuff from my phone* 😔

*however, they shall remain forever in my heart as they were in the glorious 2020-21 promo season😌

#mewgulf #zaintsee #saintzee #zeesaint #I finally also stopped usind the soc.ed formerly known as twt so I'll probably be around here more #WHERE THE +25 BL BUBBLE AROUND HERE

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pvlovesbl · 2 years

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My TOP 18 Favourite BL Shipped Couples

MewGulf (Always Number One)

SaintZee (Always Number Two)

ZeeNuNew (Always Number Three)

BounPrem (Always Number Four)

BossNoeul (Always Number Five)

FortPeat (Always Number Six)

MaxNat (Always Number Seven)

JimmyTommy (Always Number Eight)

PerthLay (Always Number Nine)

FirstKhao (Always Number Ten)

YoonTon (Always Number Eleven)

OffGun (Always Number Twelve)

MaxTul (Always Number Thirteen)

BibleBuild (Always Number Fourteen)

MileApo (Always Number Fifteen)

ToruFirst (Always Number Sixteen)

BillySeng (Always Number Seventeen)

KaownahTurbo (Always Number Eighteen)

Declaimer: Every other month I'll change my list.

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talkingbl · 2 years

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If Thai BL were Mean Girls

Nunew would be a freshman

Gun would be an unfriendly Black hottie

Newwie would be a plastic

Saint would be a junior plastic

Bright would be a cool asian

First KP would be a burnout

Tay would be a sexually active band geek

#thai bl boys love #zeenunew nunew chawarin offgun gun attaphan taynew new thitipoom #saintzee zaintsee zeesaint saint suppapong brightwin bright wachirawit #flukefirst gawinfirst first kanaphan tay tawan #ohmnanon nanon korapat

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chaos0pikachu · 1 year

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Random thought but another reason I’m not really into ~shipping pairs~ between BL actors - other then finding it narratively and skillwise boring - I also like seeing how different pairings attract different audiences.

I think a great case study of this is Saint and Zee compared to Zee and NuNew. Now obviously I don’t have like, data to back any of this up so it’s complete speculation based on my own fandom observations but audiences in the west (ie American/European) didn’t seem to vibe with Cutie Pie and ZeeNuNew as much as they did Why R U/SaintZee which I found really interesting.

Not that there were no fans for Cutie Pie or ZeeNuNew just not as many in comparison, like SaintZee really hit ppl via Tutor/Fighter in a way I didn’t see with Lian/Kuea. Which I find really interesting b/c, again all observations, LianKuea/ZeeNuNew are really well liked in Thailand and Korea.

And I find that fascinating! Particularly since it involves one common actor in this case. Not really going anywhere with this but I do find the differences in reception interesting

#zeenunew #cutie pie the series #chaos pikachu speaks #why r u the series #just random thoughts lol

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dramalets · 5 months

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Someone made a Reddit post about best BL kissers and it made me think about Why R U. God damn SaintZee really could have been THE pairing. The heat and chemistry of them in Why R U was so much.

We’re very spoilt in terms of well cast, high chemistry pairings now but back when this aired it blew my mind. They walked so NetJames could run tbh.

(I think they’re also why I fully can’t get get on board with ZeeNu lol. Like glad you’re probably dating irl or whatever but your on screen brat and brat tamer shtick has got nothing on ZeeSaint.)

#jen rambles

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watchinglikeafangirl · 2 years

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Just saw a discussion about "too explicit" sex scenes in BLs on my dashboard and thought I should dig into that controversial topic myself because I have nothing better to do than preventing myself from sleeping lol

I for my part don't have a problem with sex scenes in BLs and I don't think that person who got the ask has either. The problem is, since the media is so toxic and the shipping culture so aggressive, we let our judgement be clouded by how the actors must have felt. Wether or not we are entertained or enjoy watching the characters explore each other physically depends very much on the chemistry we see in interviews and behind the scenes footage. If one person seems to be slightly uncomfortable or awkward around the other, there is an instant dislike and disgust against the sex scene and we don't want to watch it again or be reminded it ever existed. Like it put shame on the show we still keep watching even though something seems off because looking away is hard and the fanservice is too appealing.

Honestly, I can't really tell if actors are comfortable with each other or not because I don't watch their interviews or the behind the scenes videos. It won't do me any good and I just enjoy the show itself.

That being said, I do see some clips here and there, so I will keep on writing this and compare "love in the air" to "KinnPorsche". I believe both are good examples for what I want to point out. It's not about the quality of the shows and it's not about the way the intimate and intense scenes are filmed. "Sex scenes are fine as long as they're beautifully shot" I don't agree. I think it's the writer's choice and we just live with it.

What I mean is, wether I enjoy a sex scene or not heavily depends on the actor's well being. We all know how Thai BL actors sometimes look very forced and awkward around each other, so I can't do anything about it. I naturally worry. The fanservice is no help in that matter because if it's aggressive, it's forced as well and things get ugly by then.

Apo and Mile had one specific intense sex scene in KinnPorsche and there was some behind the scenes footage in which they both discussed the filming process and how they saw it as a form of art and nothing personal. They are not involved. The scene is about Kinn and Porsche and their love, their relationship, their moment. It's not about Mile, it's not about Apo. The actors appreciate each other a lot, we can all see that, but there's no overbearing affection since they are promoting their acting skills and not their relationship.

It's a lot healthier and a more relaxed angle. Love in the air has fanservice. I admit, I don't know to which extend but I believe they're initiating physical contact and go to interviews containing more or less couple questions and nothing about the show whatsoever. The whole promotion concept is different and since the relationship between the characters which has nothing to do with the actors portraying them, is projected onto the real people behind those characters, it is hard to tell when someone is alright and when they're not. Wearing a mask works for their fanbase but it comes across as more aggressive since they are not promoting some kind of art but sex. The character's relationship bleeds into real life. There is a huge difference between these two shows and the approach is more stressful for the actors since a whole cult is formed around them. The fans want cute moments between the actors who give it to them, so the line between actor and character gets blurry. So much so, the actors might lose their real self in front of cameras. And that ends in a lot of drama, isolation and maybe depression. It's a lot of stress to meet the fan's expectations.

We are all used to that kind of promotion concept and we saw SaintZee and how that ended. It's forced and fake and really not good. The actors are not appreciated for their talent but for their looks only. So since the environment surrounding those shows is mostly toxic, I can't help but wonder if the actors are comfortable or not. I think many of us can't help but wonder because we have seen cases when they were forced.

The whole show is not presented as some entertainment they filmed for the audience and just do interviews about the whole process. It's like the show is still going with all these cheeky lines the actoes still deliver and the touching they seek.

So do sex scenes get more porny?

Maybe, I don't know. There were always controversial scenes, television is like that. And maybe, since the Thai BLs are gaining more western viewers, they want to be as "dirty" as sex scenes in western media are. Or the conversation is a lot more open abou it. It's not like every show has a intense sex scene. Mostly the display turns black.

Sex scenes in general are always thrilling and kind of interesting to watch. It feels like a new interpretation of the characters. We see their reaction when they're out of it. It's much work for the actors to be this immersed in the character and show the raw image sex is and how beautiful it can be played out. If we approach it from Apo's angle, it's really just art. And by thinking about it as art, it's less disturbing or uncomforting or whatever some people may feel. If we see it like that, the show just tries to mirror a certain reality.

But it's deeply connected to the way it's promoted. Mile and Apo have a very adulty approach, they are pretty mature about it whereas Boss and Noeul never talk about how they worked out what the character is feeling right there. The artsy approach of creating a show is skipped completely and the people seem to be casted for their looks and not their talent which they have. The show is not seperated from the actors, so the uncomforting feeling one gets while watching the uncensored version of the sex scene in episode 4 comes from the general tone of the story because the conversations are not that deep. It's all very one-dimensional and easy to understand. The characters look good, the actors look hot, let's spice things up regardless if it fits, if they agree, if they like the idea.

You get what I mean. By blending the actor's feelings into the one's of their character, you land in a dangerous situation of playing hot because you have a cult surrounding you. Sex scenes are not appreciated as art or part of the progress but as if it meant something to the actors as well. That's why we feel uneasy watching a sex scene because there are always second-guesses about the environment and possible atmosphere on set.

I don't think people have a problem with sex scenes in general and are not respecting the different tastes but they feel uneasy because the fanservice is an act they still hold up for a long while, so they wonder how long they are already on that act.

#bl series #thai bl #fanservice #love in the air #boss chaikamon #kinnporsche #apo nattawin #mile phakphum

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devil-changmin · 2 years

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Very curious about Korea’s remake of WHY R U because I want to know if they’re going to recreate the way COVID completely shut down the plot and turned it into a SaintZee porno or if they’re going to like make some shit up at the end

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bi-myslf · 2 years

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The horny holy trinity