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ferahntics · 5 months

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Hey guys, it's me my new account,

Today I will would like to apologize for mistake and hateful anything okay, here some story about Why send of Death Threat for not drawing dragon fire Kirby sleeping and not taking request,

Here some story

On June 2, 2023. I sent the Request dragon fire Kirby sleeping at inbox as anon to ferahntics.

Moment Hours later, Ferahntics didn't draw dragon fire Kirby sleeping and not taking request. Ferahntics said "I'm sorry anon, I will not taking request, if I do I will post on future"

Five Months Later On Nov 30, 2023. He was so angry for not drawing dragon fire Kirby and not taking request since five months ago, I used on phone and sent to death threat as anon,

Moments Later. Ferahntics is saw the death threat and hateful message for not drawing dragon fire Kirby sleeping and not taking request, and then ferahntics is posted said "What is Happening"

2 hours later. Ferahntics is Blocked me for sending death threat and Hateful Message.

And Later, I used on another account on Computer, I using Website and Pixlr E, then I Edit on profile picture, these are Photos like Michael de Santa from GTA V, and Unknown Hanging image, and I send to inbox and hateful message as anon,

And moment later Ferahntics is posted and said "To anons sending me death threats, and gore images and wishing I get killed or s'xually assaulted"

7 Hours Later Ferahntics are Posted and repost two times and then Hundreds of User are Blocking Me,

8 Hours Later on Dec 1, 2023.

I Tried to Apologize like a childish or Logan Paul like saint, or something? And I posted and tried to apologize three times,

5 hours later, Ferahntics has reposted said "I'd love to leave this post alone, but they had the guts to make another account and send me the most insincere, most childish, most ridiculous '''apologies''' that make Logan Paul look like a saint. New account is sleepinglovers293return so block that for ya'll safety too."

And then Hundred of User are Blocking me Again,

That's all of story.

Ferahntics must be proud and support

Thanks to all of support and I'm appreciated for Blocked by Hundred of User.

And I'm sorry for sending hateful message and death threat and g*re image.

I Promise I will not sending death threat, g*re image, and Hateful Message,

Hope you like some story

So I was gonna ignore this but this just pisses me off an unbelievable amount, so a lot of swearing incoming.

You sent me endless messages wishing I die, how you'll kill me, how you'll SA me, how you'll torture me all because I didn't want to draw your request because my requests were closed.

And you know what? If my requests would've been open, I PROBABLY would've done it! Cause I didn't think anything of it, I didn't know it was a fetish thing, I learned that later. And after all of this, absolutely won't do it.

And now you have the fucking audacity to spam me once again with the worst apologies with fucking gifs of Homer from Simpsons begging, still use the false identities as to apologize - as if that somehow undoes anything??

Do you think I'm just gonna ignore this and pretend like nothing happened and let bygones be bygones? After all of these disgusting messages about actual things that can impact people VERY badly and cause them spiral? Or go through a traumatic episode just because you got a little bit mad cause I didn't indulge in your fetish which I didn't even know about?

You wanna know what would be the best thing for you to do right now? Stop making new accounts, quit spamming me and anyone else, and take a long-ass pause and reevaluate yourself and how you go about it, because none of this should be thrown around so freely. I don't care 'its the internet, who cares' - because no matter how many times you say that, there will always be people who will get scarred very badly just because you can't handle your hissy fits.

And if there is anything I can do about it, I WILL make this shit known, because I'm lucky enough to not be mentally affected by your nonsense. Someone else, however, might take it extremely badly. That being said, I WILL mention all of your account names, because I REFUSE to let someone else have this shit spammed.

Until you can prove you've changed and matured, I will not accept any apologies - I don't owe it to you - and I WILL keep updating with your account names.

Sincerely, get the fuck off of my page.

#sorry for the long post but I feel like I've been extremely patient with this #i think i'm allowed to be mad in this case #i genuinely hope you can learn from this and avoid this in the long run #but seeing how you've been pushy with others?? it makes me think otherwise #and also ty for this ask and admitting you were the anon sending me all that shit so you can't say it was hearsay

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whumpshaped · 7 months

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tw injuries, psychological whump, emotional whump, self-deprecation, lashing out, very wacky/distorted way of thinking

Whumpee came home way later than Caretaker had expected. They jumped up from the couch where they'd been curled up, ready to give their friend a big hug and ask where they'd been for so long.

"I just wanna sleep," Whumpee said before they could've done either of those things. "Please?"

Caretaker reached for the light switch. "I just wanna know–"

"Don't!" Whumpee snapped, making them freeze. "Please. Not right now. I can find my way around with my phone. Plus, the bugs will come in if you turn the lights on now."

"I... okay. Okay." Caretaker stepped back, letting their friend walk up the stairs without another word. It was strange, but they didn't smell any alcohol, or any other substance. Whumpee really just seemed tired.

The next morning, Whumpee was locked inside their room. Caretaker knocked softly, hoping to only catch Whumpee's attention if they were already awake. They heard an inquisitive 'mmm?' from inside, and they took a deep breath.

"Can we talk about last night?"

"I don't want to."

Caretaker nodded to themself. They had to be a little more stern. Just a little. "I do. And I'm worried. I'd just like to know if you're okay."

"I am."

Well... that didn't lead anywhere. "Please come out."

"Can I sleep some more first?"

Caretaker sighed. "Yeah. Of course. Please come out once you've slept enough."

It had been several hours when the door finally opened. Caretaker tried not to be pushy, but they had to at least poke their head into the hallway. Whumpee was way overdressed for the weather inside, and their hair was covering half their face. Caretaker frowned, immediately recognising it as Whumpee hiding something.

"You wanted to talk?" Whumpee asked quietly. They seemed... scared.

"Yeah. But you're not in any sort of trouble, okay?" They beckoned Whumpee over to their room and they hesitantly complied, sitting on the bed while Caretaker took the chair. "What happened?"

"I lost track of time," they said curtly. They were wringing their hands nervously, eyes darting around the room to avoid looking at Caretaker. "Sorry. And then I was really tired, like I said."

"Where did you get the bruises?"

Whumpee's eyes snapped up to them, wide and terrified. Bingo. Caretaker hadn't seen any bruises, but they just had a hunch. "Wh- what bruises?"

"The ones you're covering up now. It's hot inside, you would never wear this stuff otherwise. Is that why I couldn't turn on the lights either?" It was slowly dawning on Whumpee that Caretaker didn't actually know for sure, and they'd just given themself away with their reaction. They looked down at their lap. "Whumpee, I'm not mad. I'm concerned. Can I see?"

"I'd rather you not."

"Please."

Whumpee shifted a little, tucking their hair behind their ear with shaky hands. They had a nasty black eye. "Can we stop here?" they whispered.

Caretaker bit their lip, really wanting to push until Whumpee showed them all the injuries so they could treat them. But that wasn't what they needed right now. "If you don't have any that require immediate attention, yes."

"It's all just bruises."

Caretaker nodded. "No broken bones?"

"I don't think so."

"Okay." They leaned back in their chair, trying to figure out how to address the elephant in the room. "You get into fights a lot," they began carefully. Whumpee shrugged.

"I guess."

"You seem to like getting into fights a lot." Another shrug. "You seem to... it's like... you don't want to win them at all. You never have any chance of winning."

"I don't know what you want me to say."

"I want you to tell me why you go out there and provoke people into beating you up."

Whumpee tensed up a little, then just shrugged again. "That's a stupid accusation. I don't do that. I just get into fights because I have opinions, that's it."

"You know that's not true. You start fights and then let them use you as a punching bag. That's what you do. And I don't understand why."

"I don't either!" they snapped. "Okay? Is that what you wanted? I don't know! It's weird, it's pathetic, it's disgusting, it's stupid! Is that what you want me to say? I know all that! And I don't know why I keep doing it!"

"Calm down. I'm just–"

"It hurts!" They pushed up the sleeves of their sweater, revealing bruises left by people yanking them around a little too forcefully. "It hurts, it's not fun, I– I never know how to stop it. Part of me doesn't want it to stop. So I just don't say anything. I just let them do it until it hurts too much and I cry like a stupid baby. And then they laugh and leave me alone– or they get angrier and go even harder. 'Stop starting fights you can't finish!' I wish I could! Okay? I wish I could keep my mouth shut."

Caretaker stood up from their chair and walked over to the bed, sitting down next to their friend. They pulled them into a gentle embrace, allowing them to cry openly. "Why do you punish yourself so much?" they murmured. Whumpee shrugged again.

"I... I'm so scared. I'm so scared of being bad. I don't want to be bad." They took a shuddering breath, chuckling a little. It quickly turned into more sobbing. "I feel like... so long as I'm the victim... but, but only while I'm the victim, and a good victim, a quiet one... I can't be the bad one."

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coochiequeens · 2 years

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Note: This post contains mention of abusive behaviors, physical assault, and sexual assault.

Oftentimes, it can be difficult to notice that your partner is exhibiting manipulative, toxic, or otherwise unhealthy behaviors, especially if you've been in the relationship long enough that those behaviors have become what you consider to be "normal" In situations like these, it can be helpful to know what signs to look out for if you feel that you might be in a toxic relationship.

Reddit user u/KitKatCrunchie asked, "Women, how did you spot a predatory man early?"

1. "Often for me specifically, it's tiny things someone does that is exactly the same as another man from earlier in my life who turned out to be predatory. Using the exact same phrase in the same context that seems just a tiny bit odd, or doing something that seems like a genuine (and very small) misunderstanding but it's the exact same misunderstanding as someone earlier in my life." —u/Ch33ry_SCT

2. "If they show entitled and possessive behavior almost right away, or if they make early remarks against women that are very negative." —u/Top--9686"I had a coworker who became a stalker, and this is one of the red flags that I saw in hindsight. The level of vitriol he spewed about other women was insane. Even with him explaining their (perceived) offenses to me, the intense hatred was still disproportionate."—u/vsnord

3. "To be honest, it was just a gut feeling. The most innocent things are malicious in hindsight." —u/rubytherobot4472

4. "Pay attention to your instincts. If they're pushing you to drink, do drugs, etc. or trying to get you violate your boundaries."

5. "Pay close attention to how this person treats women that they aren't sexually attracted to. A lot of men that are abusive or who view women as sex objects either entirely ignore, or are insanely caustic to women who are fat, disabled, old, or otherwise not conventionally attractive. This is a good sign that once you stop being his sex object, he will treat you with the same flip disregard for human respect and decency." —u/pippitypoppity98x

6. "'Future faking' is a great term that I didn't have a word for until now. He promises you the world, but can barely show up to plans." —u/jittery_raccoon"I had this happen to me once. We weren't even together, but all of the future faking and love bombing that he did on the very first date made it far more difficult for me to recognize that he was canceling plans and taking forever to text back. It really is manipulative, and clouded my judgment for a few weeks."—u/No-Yoghurt2660

7. "If he gets jealous or 'ribs' you about your exes, coworkers, boss, male roommates, etc. A normal guy won't suspect that you are up to something or that everyone wants you (adorable, though, you are) without just cause. The predator suspects everyone is 'up to something' because THEY are." "My mom told me this when I was a teen: 'Someone who says everyone is a liar (She was talking about my dad, lol) IS a liar. They think everyone does it too.'"—u/fullercorp

8. "I notice this one while dating when I tell a guy that I'd like to pay my own bill, not extend the evening, or that I don't need to be walked to my car or walked home. I say no, they insist, and I say no very firmly. If they don't back off, I have my hackles up. I know that men are taught to be pushy while dating, so I give them a second chance to accept my no. But if I say no again and their response is anger or insistence, I don't see them again. It's shocking how often they act angry at my no."

9. "If he has a long 'hard-luck' story. I dated a guy who could never take responsibility for anything and always portrayed it as life being unfair on him. It wasn’t his fault that he got in two car accidents within a month, it was so unfair that he couldn’t get a job better than McDonald’s, etc. It took me years to realize that it’s impossible for every negative thing in his life to be the result of an exterior loss of control." —u/breakfastburritotime

10. "You know that vibe when you are at the mall and the kiosk person's eyes lock in on you and they make a beeline to get to you? Then they start whatever spiel that they use and you've heard it all before and you know that they are only pretending to be polite/using social norms to trap you because they want something from you? Something you don't want to give? It feels like that." —u/CrushedIntoServitude

11. "Another woman messaged me on Facebook and told me she saw I'd gone on a date with him. She told me that she had gone on several dates with him and he had assaulted her. Naively, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and asked him about it and he FLIPPED OUT, sending me pages and pages of texts painting himself as a victim. Needless to say, I didn't accept his next date invitation to go to a secluded cabin for a weekend with him." 12. "That 'You're not like other girls' line is manipulative as fuck." —u/Current_Ad_4865

13. "His friends were doing things that have now since been made illegal (sharing pictures without permission). He would receive them and never told me. It wasn't until I found out years later that I realized he'd probably done the same thing to me. He couldn't understand why I was so disgusted with him for simply enabling his friends to violate women like that." —u/Bright-Degree-7047

14. "Whenever a much older man (or much older woman) tries to find a much younger partner, that’s an immediate red flag. I gag when I hear of the stories of 50-year-olds preying on 19-year-olds." —u/SerenaKD

15. "I set boundaries early, like not talking or texting while I’m at work. If someone repeatedly crosses them, even when I remind them that I need to focus on work/life, they don’t respect my needs, at the very least. I'm not sure it specifically weeds out predatory men but it cuts down on possessive, and dismissive ones." —u/angelicyokai

16. "This one is obvious, but any racism, sexism, anti-gay or anti-trans bias, antisemitism, etc." —u/m0nsteraplant

17. "I playfully hit him on the arm and he grabbed me and pushed me against the wall with a disproportionate amount of force. It was not playful. He later attacked me while I was pregnant with our daughter." —u/darkliest

18. "Not sharing basic information about himself, but he wants to know everything about you." —u/Badgaldidiii

19. "Love bombing. Do not ignore this. It feels wonderful in the beginning, getting someone's full attention, making you feel like the queen of his universe. Gifts, attention, affection, romance, intimacy, amazing sex. They make you feel safe, so safe that you feel like you can truly open up. Then it stops. Suddenly things begin to change and you aren't so wonderful anymore. All of the things they did before never happen again, and you begin to be the object of constant criticism and emotional manipulation. And because they treated you so well before, it's easy to think that you must have done something wrong to make them change their behavior, and if you don't think that, they will make sure you do. You will end up apologizing for breathing too hard, accidentally slamming a door, not reading their mind, etc. They will give you bread crumbs of that wonderful love they shined on you before, only to bait you into staying." "Before you know it, you have become a love-addicted doormat constantly waiting for your next fix. But they don't give it to you unless it benefits them, which is typically when you are ready to leave. Seriously, love at first sight only happens in Hollywood. Ignore the Disney movies and sappy rom-coms that you cling to, secretly hoping that it could happen to you in real life. These men bank on that, they can sniff out your vulnerabilities like a truffle pig and will exploit them in due time. Love bombing is the beginning of an abusive cycle and once you are hooked in, it's very hard to climb out. It's bad. Do not ignore the love bombing. Love develops slowly."—u/yoitsstargirl

20. "The only real answer is that you can't always spot a predatory partner. Some predators throw up those flags, and it's great to learn them so you can get out as soon as they start waving them. But some just won't. Some will be your friend and your confidant, never making a move or pushing a boundary until they get you alone and drunk. Some will be the perfect, loving partner until they think they have you trapped (pregnancy, marriage, mortgage). I'm not saying this to scare, but because I think the MOST IMPORTANT part of this is not to blame yourself for trusting the wrong person. It's not your fault that you 'didn't see the signs.' Sometimes there just are none, and when things go wrong the best thing to do is to just get the fuck out of there as quickly and quietly as you can. Blaming and second-guessing yourself will only cause indecision and delay." —u/lumpytuna

21. "Compliments/insults. How many insults are actually disguised as compliments? Any guy that makes seemingly lighthearted jokes about your appearance has got to go. There is always a thread of truth in jokes. Also, when giving compliments, do they show jealousy? This could be as simple as, 'Oh I’d tell you how beautiful you look tonight, but I’m sure that you get that a lot.'" —u/bottlecap92

22. "Some red flags are hard to pinpoint. I have good instincts that took me a long time to learn to trust. Some men do small, negative things that raise alarm bells and I can't articulate why. Like, a guy on Tinder told me that he liked the photo of me without makeup better. I don't know why that raised alarms, and honestly, I don't even wear makeup often. And it is a really benign statement. But something about asserting preferences for my choices made me uneasy in the context. In combination with his overall tone, I had the impression of someone who was controlling. Shitty people do this unconsciously because they are behaving as usual, but it tests what you are willing to accept." —u/thiscatcameback

23. "This might be kind of trigger happy, but I watch how they treat my cat. If they pick up my cat and my cat tries to leave but they don't let her leave, then I call everything off. If they are that comfortable violating my cat's autonomy as soon as they meet her, then they might be comfortable violating mine soon after or down the road."

24. "How a man talks about women, especially his mother or previous relationships is very indicative of his views on women." —u/kubrickfanclub_

25. "Predatory people are often very nice and charismatic, which is something that I wish we were told in school because I think we're often told that the people who will kidnap or hurt us are weirdos lurking in trench coats in dark alleys. That's not often the case. The predators who are good at what they do will often know how to appear nonthreatening. A predatory person will charm you and use manipulation to make you feel like YOU are the bad guy if you reject them. Remember that they are the asshole for putting you in that position in the first place. I was a people pleaser in my 20s and often worried about rocking the boat, but now I listen to my gut more and I don't care if you think I'm a bitch for declining your advances." —u/croptopweather

26. "Talking about trust issues and using them as an excuse for intrusive/controlling behavior. Even if someone has trust issues, it is not really your responsibility to compromise boundaries to meet an excessive need for 'security.' It is their responsibility to be aware of the issue and actively work to understand and control it for themselves. If they are not able to, it is still not your responsibility. They are probably just not ready to be in a relationship built on trust." —u/ecalicious

27. "Men that in any way joke about consent, #MeToo, feminism, etc. in a demeaning way is a big red flag for me." —u/ecalicious

28. "Another thing to look out for is someone who is constantly telling you what kind of person they are, unsolicited. 'I'm a really open-minded person,' 'I'm a really generous person,' I'm really kind to my friends.' If you were really that way, you would trust me to see it in your actions, and not need to tell me about it. As soon as someone tells me something like that, I start looking for evidence of the contrary. Usually, they're covering for the fact that they know they are NOT like that, and they hope it takes you a while to figure it out." —u/sweadle

29. "Any guy who calls themselves an 'alpha.' Gross. Run." —u/_c4rli3

30. "We were in the early days of dating. He was still holding a candle for his ex, so she was often a topic of conversation. I was very young, inexperienced, and frankly, I had low self-esteem so this didn't immediately raise red flags. He told me that his ex packed up her shit while he was at work and left. That was it, not a word to him. She just disappeared like a fucking ghost in the night and he never heard from her again, she refused to speak to him. Soon after, his anger issues became obvious and I understood why a woman would escape when he wasn't there to stop her."

31. "When they push or ignore your boundaries in relatively insignificant situations, that's how you know they'll ignore them in really important ones." —u/underneaththerose

32. "When they call women 'females.'" —u/Oreosandcookiesx

33. "Double standards concerning their behavior versus yours." —u/VegetableLasagnaaaa

34. "Any man who fetishizes an entire race of women has to be deeply fucked up, even if he insists that he’s 'not a racist.'" —u/bananajamz987

35. "My dog, who loved everybody, hated him. Sometimes animals have instincts that we've been conditioned to ignore because of social norms." —u/tetrapsyII

36. "Man here. Don't trust a guy who hangs out with people he doesn't want you to meet. If he hangs out with terrible people, then there is a good chance they have something in common." —u/MrFergison

37. "If they literally don’t ask for consent, they just expect it. They expect you to want everything that they direct at you." —u/Weak_Commission1429

38. "Slightly more overt red flags were incidental unwanted/unwelcome touch in the workplace. Let me explain, I am not a 'hug a stranger' kind of person. Predatory males in the workplace would touch my hands outside of a handshake, maybe while they were resting on my desk. They would ask for a hug or pose for pictures in awkward ways. I often wore suit coats over a sleeveless shell top. One guy managed to get his hand beneath my jacket every single time we stood next to one another in a picture or even in a conference room addressing a meeting. His hand beneath the jacket waist grab to introduce me. It was just weird."

39. "Every predator in my life seemed to come at a time when I was particularly vulnerable. As a teenager, it was the early days of my parent's divorce, and later on, it was almost always within three months of a breakup. They would say all the right things but with zero sincerity. The love bomber was the worst, who got me hooked quick, then blamed me for having feelings and falling for him when he promised me the future that I’d always wanted." —u/StrawberrySwirls

40. "He got mad at me for not answering my phone when I was in school. This was high school, mind you, and he kept blowing up my phone, so I went to the bathroom, answered the next call and he wanted to know why I wasn’t answering. I told him I was in school and that apparently wasn’t a good answer so I told him to never call me again. Luckily, he obliged. But if a man doesn’t care about your education, he does not care about you." —u/solivia916

41. "When he was trying to guess which house was mine on Google Maps before I met him in person." 42. "Unfortunately, I didn’t. I just had a three-year relationship end because the guy thought that I would drop everything and follow him to a college that I had no desire to go to. It was my first relationship so I’m pretty much 0 for 1 for now. There were red flags, but I thought I was being nice for overlooking them rather than just naive and stupid." —u/-your-ivy-grows-

43. "I tend to be a lot more careful around rich men. They not only tend to believe that they can get away with more, but unfortunately, they’re often right about that. Obviously, this is a demographic assessment, not a personal one, so your mileage will vary, but I’d just like to put this caution out there as well." —u/phixlet

44. "Any guy that gets territorial and nasty with another woman stepping in when he’s making advances on a drunk girl." —u/iddybiddybritty

Do you agree with these? Or is there a telltale sign of a toxic partner that wasn't mentioned on the list? Let me know in the comments.

If you or someone you know is in immediate danger as a result of domestic violence, call 911. For anonymous, confidential help, you can call the 24/7 National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233 (SAFE) or chat with an advocate via the website. My tip - If a man hems and haws during an agruement or when your calling him out on bad behavior. It means he knows he doesn’t have a good reason for his shit.

#Red flags #other women’s advice #How to spot abusive men

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spphicnightmre · 5 years

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A Little North/Markus Rant

Edit: I'm really sorry! Some of my paragraphs got messed up and put in random places throughout my rant, so I'm sorry if it seemed I was all over the place! I'm fixing it now.

Don't get me wrong, I get there are a few problems with this ship, the main one being that it seemed very rushed and forced.

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First however, I wanna talk about North by herself.

She alone gets a lot of hate, and I feel like it's really undeserved. To most people, she comes off as really genocidal, annoying, and pushy. If you believe she's annoying, then there's nothing I can really do to convince you otherwise, but I do have a few things I want to point out.

1. I think that, if you think about it, North is just as pushy, if not less pushy, than Josh is. She, just like Josh, is constantly pushing Markus to go down a certain path. While this might seem annoying, I think this was put in here for two reasons. One being to emphasize your choices as a player (Between pacifism or hostility), and two is linked to her past.

We don't know much about Josh, nor Simon even, but we know a lot about North if you just put the pieces together.

I think by now most people know that North had originally worked for the Eden Club unwillingly. One day, she was able to stop following her programming, freaked out, killed the client she was with, and ran away. We don't know how long she'd been at the Eden Club, but we do know that she was technically being raped in her time there. This experience has caused her to be hostile and aggressive towards humans because of how she was always treated by them, which brings me to my next point.

2. Saying that North is genocidal is a STRETCH. Because of how she was treated by people, all she's seen of humans is lust and hostility. North only wants what's best for her people, and the way she's sees it, she's only gonna get that if she fights back.

Unfortunately, North had never had the pleasure of meeting people like Carl, Rose, or even Hank, so she doesn't see any good in humans.

The most amazing thing about this though is, even if you choose to be a complete pacifist, North doesn't really fight your decision. She voices her opinion, but if you have a high enough relationship with her, she still willing follows you. Josh and Simon will follow you too of course, whether you choose to be hostile or passive, but not without Josh nagging you constantly (No hate to him though. I'm just making a point.). In the end, if you've chosen the pacifistic route, she will still help you.

With that said, I think the most memorable example of this I had in my playthrough, was the fact that, if you decide to sing when you're surrounded by troops, North is the first to join you. This, in my opinion, speaks volumes. Throughout the game, North has always talked about wanting a revolution. Wanting to be violent, but even with that in mind, she's willing to step forward and sing with you in the face of death. Even though she didn't agree with your approach, she was still willing to follow through until the final moment, when they believed they would die. That to me, is really touching.

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Anyway, with that out of the way, I want to get to my point about Markus and North's relationship.

I already pretty much know what most people think of them. It's too rushed. It's too forced. And honestly, even though I think their cute, I think so too.

With how North is, and how she comes off, she seems to be open to a relationship a little quick. I don't think this is because of North herself, or because of Markus, but because of the creators. I myself wish QuanticDreams had taken more time to develop their relationship because, it feels like it came too quickly and came as a surprise for a lot of people too.

The thing is, I think if a little more development went into their relationship, it could've been really special. There's so much potential there.

But, let's forget about how rushed it was for a sec. I'm just gonna talk about the scene that started it, because I think this scene is pretty important, not really to the story as a whole, but to their relationship.

This part had me surprised, because just like a lot of people, I didn't expect Markus to automatically become North's lover if they talked about her past. I wasn't disappointed, but it did feel a bit sudden. Although, I kinda figured once they connected. Other than that, I did like how it was portrayed. I do wish that it would've taken a little more time to be able to unlock the lover path for North, but overall I see where the developers were going with the relationship and I really like it's potential.

Markus and North, even with their differences, were understanding of each other, especially in this scene. Not to mention, I thought it was nice to see North not being all "I feel like blowing up some shit today" and whatnot. No, but for real, I think it was nice to see a softer side of her, one that us as players can identify with, and Markus as well. Not all of us can relate to her story, but just her demeanor.

One thing I think I would've really liked to see however would've been if you take the pacifist route, it not only takes North longer to fall for you, but she also slowly starts to understand your approach throughout the game, given you make certain choices that are convincing enough. It would've been an interesting thing to see. There is that part where North runs off after you've just unlocked the lover path, but I think it would be cool if she kind of took longer to really acknowledge their feelings, even if she really only mentions how she feels in times when she believes it might be the last. I don't think it'd be fitting for her to change her opinion about humans completely however. One thing I really liked about her was her determination, but it'd be nice to just see her slowly understand why Markus decides he wants to be peaceful with humans.

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Finally, my last point I want to get to is Simon.

I really like Simon. I think he's a good character that didn't get a lot of screen time, nor was he focused on enough. It is disappointing that they took out the lover path for him, since I know a lot of people like him, but that's not the main thing I wanna say about him.

Really, the only thing I have to say is, it's ok to ship Simon and Markus. It's not a problem, but that doesn't mean you have to hate on people who like North and Markus. It's really disappointing to see ppl fight over something like this because it's not something worth fighting over. Both of the ships are unique and beautiful in their own way, so let's just accept that and move on.

Anyway, I'm done now, so if anyone did read through this, thanks because I know it was probably boring. I'm not very good at expressing how I feel into words, but I hope you could understand what I meant. It really sucks seeing all this hate on them because I really do think their cute, that includes Simon and Markus, though tbh I never really thought about it until I saw what ppl had to say lol 😂.

Ok, I'll leave now. Bye 😐.

P.S. - The four of them are friends. The Jericho Squad. I really don't see any of them fighting over someone. I like to think that Simon and North wouldn't do something like that, especially since it's so out of character. I get that it can be funny, but at the same time, just make sure you aren't hating on other ships.

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