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haellen-o · 6 months
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jangmo-othewarrior · 1 year
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DMC Questions Anon here!
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How would you rank the 5 games in the Devil May Cry series? (By story)
Separately, if you want, how would you rank extended material? (The DMC1 Novel, The DMC3 Mangas, The Anime, The DMC2 Novel, Deadly Fortune, Before the Nightmare, and Visions of V, all of which can be found (along with other stuff) here: https://originaldmc.github.io/DivinityStatue/Downloads.html)
If you wish, how would you rank all of it together in one big list?
DMC QUESTIONS ANON!! :D
Okay, I'm gonna do everything together, but i will preface this by saying i have a lot more exposure to some things than others, thus I will have varying degrees of 'much to say'.
DMC 5
I'm definitely biased for this (it's the one that got me into the franchise) but I digress.
FAMILY THEMES BABI MY FAVORITE THING
I just adore the main cast so much u do not understand. So much hype shit happens with em too, it's great. The characters are simultaneously over the top but also very real? Like Dante is the wacky woo-hoo pizza man but also horribly in control of his emotions and how to express them.
The Vergil reveal was so obvious but I dont care. It's good. The depths given to his character through V and Urizen are VERY good.
And NERO- lord everyone in this family has trauma
Also SDT was introduced in this game I'm sorry but no piece of DMC media will be able to top this because of it.
2. DMC 3
is anyone surprised
I love the bois so much, with their stupid catchphrases and horrible family dynamics. it's so weird looking at them like
I was nighteen once. I wasn't like them but I was nighteen.
Also the THEMES once again center around family, especially with the addition of Lady and Arkum. I also love this cast SO MUCH
except arkum fuck arkum all the homies hate arkum
Literally the only reason this is lower than DMC 5 is because no Nero, Trish or Nico. That's it.
3. Visions of V
i haven't talked about him much but I would also gently hold V (and by extension Vergil)
Really I just love this manga because of how much is shown and revealed through it. Everything is really visceral and hits so hard.
Literally everything in this manga stabs u in the feels especially the final shit GOOD LORD
but it really is tied with #4 because it can't really stand by itself? It needs DMC 5 to be whole, in a way.
4. DMC 4
I really wanted to put this above VoV but my DMC 5 bias shown through in the end IM SORRY
also yeah Sanctus as a villian is dogshit, i agree
and some characters REALLY needed more screen time (see: Credo, Angus, KYRIE) but also this game has the Shakespeare scene so....
also I just love Nero and his teen angst can u blame me
But GOD did Kyrie need more screentime
5. Before the Nightmare
Wow the DMC 5 bias strikes again, huh.
IDK man I just love the prequel shit. Like, Nico and Nero meeting is so fucking funny
Also Lucia makes an appearance for the first time since DMC 2 so thats cool
It also expanded the lore on how devil arms work through Balrog which I am SO thankful for.
Also Roc Goldstein exists now and everyone should know about one of the ONLY GOOD DADS in DMC history
Really the only other one I give my full respect to is Sparda, and he died when his kids were like, six. (Dante and Vergil r getting there tho, give em time.)
6. The Anime
Look Patty is the only reason this is so high I love her and if u look at my previous posts u can tell I love her and Dante's father daughter relationship u can pry it out of my cold dead hands
Also the lore with Sparda's apprentices, demon smoners being a thing, and the introduction to Morrison is very nice.
But also Lady was WAY off the mark almost the entire time, and the plot with Patty only really took center stage towards the end so :(
ALSO THEY DIDNT EVEN SHOW DEVIL TRIGGER IN FULL I WILL NEVER FORGIVE CAPCOM FOR THIS INJUSTICE
capcom if u put Patty in more shit I will forgive you (maybe)
7. DMC 1 novel
This novel is weird because it was written before almost all of the other shit so Canon often either ignored it or bent over backwards to avoid it until the DMC 5 era
But I like it. All of the new characters r very good and I love them all.
Grues death STILL hits me in the feels so hard.
Dante has lost so many parental figures ya'll
One of the only reasons it's so low is because of Gilver, the fuck
He made NO fucking sense for the longest time until the timeline rewrite and the retcon that he's a Vergil clone.
That fits his character so much more bur looking at him as Vergil makes no fucking sense. Everything about his character contradicts what we know about Vergil, even back with only DMC 3 as a reference.
Despite those issues, i am very happy we are seeing some rep for this book in the games and other media. U do not understand the screech I let out when Grue's daughters were shown years later.
8. DMC 1
is this sacrilegious?
Yeah the gameplay is good and it was a hallmark of its time but also Dante is as stale as cardboard here I'm sorry
Like his plot is the most uniform and overdone revenge plot I have ever seen and his relationship with Trish....
it's funky in this game, let me tell u. Thank whatever higher power exists that they leaned more towards siblings in later installments because I would be pulling my hair out otherwise.
But the quips r also really good and all of the Nelo Angelo stuff is my favorite part of the plot, so I guess that evens out?
This game was a very good launching point for the rest of the series except u know what
Also fuck mundus all the homies hate mundus he sucks
9. Deadly Fortune
Uhhh yeah it's just.... DMC 4 again with some things changed?
Honestly the reason this is so low is because of my preferred way of absorbing story is through video games than manga.
It's okay. Not trash or anything. It's just alright
10. DMC 3 Mangas
They're ... fine? I guess.
Like the first meeting between the twins in YEARS is very good, but also the manga is unfinished and all...
So I'll just leave it at that.
11. DMC 2 Novel
Gonna be honest I've never read this one.
So I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt
12. DMC 2
Yeah remember when I said Dante was cardboard in DMC 1? Yeah now he's silent, emotionless cardboard.
the villian is bad, the location is okay i guess, really the only saving grace for this games story is the concepts it introduces
Demon civil wars? Artificial demons created by people? Those are cool concepts! So cool that one was reused in a much better game, but I digress.
Honestly the story is probably one of the least sacrilege parts of DMC 2, and it still isn't the worst piece of DMC media based on story. That goes to our surprise contender....
13. DMC: Devil May Cry
DMC questions anon did NOT ask for this, but I'm putting it here so that everyone understands that this games story and characters are SO BAD that I'm putting UNDERNEATH DMC 2
But what can I say that hasn't been already stated?
Vergil is so far out of character he's basically an OC and his turn around at the end makes no fucking sense
Donte is an asshole who has functionally abandoned what made Dante likeable in ANY GAME
The plot itself is the most rehashed 'the government is evil and we must resist it' plot EVER
Even the new shit they added for this game doesn't even fucking work well.
Having demons that look like angels be the antagonists is much more interesting that just having angels and having them do NOTHING
Kat is literally the only thing that I don't have a super negative opinion on because she was NEW and I hadn't watched them fuck up a character I love. They just made a mediocre one at best
Needless to say, I utterly despise the plot of this game with my entire being.
Thank you for the question, DMC Questions Anon! I'm sorry I went a bit off script, but I hope it was at least entertaining.
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dmc-questions-anon · 10 months
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I don't know if you're taking asks but I have a thought rotating in my mind right here: what if the next dmc games took the route as bayonetta 3 did approaching the not-that-good-but-old multiverse themes? It would fit the aesthetic of dmc, that once or twice (I'm not quite sure) showed an alternative universe in dmc2 novel? Would the dev team somehow screw it up? Lend me your sincere thoughts!
I'm definitely taking asks! Asks are always welcome, I just can't say for certain how long an answer will take. As you can see here I might take a long time (sorry about that by the way), though I'm hoping not as I am genuinely working on my procrastination issues.
While I'm not into Bayonetta (yet) I do know that whatever it is that Bayonetta 3 did should not be repeated by Devil May Cry, I have never once heard of anybody speak positively about that game.
As for exploring the multiverse, I do think that if handled correctly it could work and be interesting to explore. If handled incorrectly it could obviously be a disaster but if it's done correctly it could be amazing.
Though I don't think I really want them to take that route in a game? I'd be fine if they go that way with a novel or even have it be an anime plot (I think that since that new anime that may or may not be coming out won't be canon they should take an alternate universe route, it could be interesting to just do an au or have Dante, Vergil, and Lady (the only confirmed characters) during DMC 3 time period head over into an alternate reality or maybe have them time travel into the future even or something I don't know), but I feel like a game should keep it's main plot focused in the main reality we've followed throughout the series. Also I need lots of angst if they are multiverse traveling because it just opens up such a wonderful opportunity for it.
Overall I'd say that yes, if handled correctly it could be a good direction, but I don't think they should do it in a game.
Thanks for the ask!
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spinningbuster98 · 1 year
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I'd say DMC 2's four redeeming qualities are: Lucia's arc, Dante's design, having the predecessor of the Trickster mechanic and the overall soundtrack and ambience. These would be much more appreciated in a much better game.
Eeeeh sorry to say but I wouldn't qualify any of these as "redeeming qualities"
Lucia's "arc" is only good on paper, its concept. Execution wise DMC2's story is not only paper thin but there are actual cutscenes missing, or at the very least the story has always seemed to me like it was physically missing whole chunks, what with characters going to certain locations without any specified reason or certain "twists" such as Lucia's revelation to Dante about her origins being treated in such a slap dashed way that it genuinely feels like there are entire scenes missing.
As such Lucia is a character that I can mostly only like in concept. As it stands what's there on screen is pretty half assed. Better than Trish in DMC1 I will give her that, as at least with Lucia she gets slightly more focus, but I can only give so much leeway to the end result.
I know everyone fawns over Dante's design here but honestly? It's never jived with me, mainly because it looks too...sleek, too professional (and edgy). Dante is a guy who spends his days in a crappy office stuffing his face with pizza and drinking alcohol, and likes to screw around with his enemies in goofy ways. Does his DMC2 design communicate any of these aspects of his personality?
DMC2's dodge roll being the forefather to DMC3-4-5's Trickster is faint praise, because I'm pretty sure that the idea of a dodge roll, while new for the series, was nothing revolutionary even back then, while DMC3's Trickster has more nuance (the dash on the ground, the mid air dash, the short teleport etc) and really the only things it has in common with 2's dodge roll are its button input and general use.
Plus it's still giving DMC2 points for just an idea, one that it...doesn't execute awfully for once, but certainly nothing amazing either
I...really don't care for the OST, to me it's mostly just background electric guitar noises with barely any memorable melodies (the battle theme actually gets ear grating after a while because it sounds like the same notes playing over and over again I dunno). With the exception of that one theme I linked yesterday I genuinely don't remember ANY other track in this game because, just like the rest of the game, it just sounds so bland and uninspired to me
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cherubsoda · 4 years
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sorry i gotta redo this i fucking... clicked post on accident. but here's some Things On Dante bc whoops i rarely talk ab him @space-sweetheart
1) what’s a Hot Take you have about your f/o
Dante is severely depressed and it's constantly pushed aside by the fanbase. I honestly avoid most fics bc i remembered how he depicted years ago (and still today). Actually, thats the reason I started shipping with him - I felt like there was more to his chara n deserved better and I was right lmao
Hot take that DMC2 wasn't as terrible as people say it is, maybe in context that DMC1 and 2 were the only games out at the time. With all 5 out though, I think its a good addition to Dante as a character and elaborated on the more serious parts of him but still made him witty and snarky.
2) on what do you disagree with other fans of your f/o?
Mostly how hes interpreted. He's either incredibly horny or a complete jackass (or both). I just can't stand that, bitch said sad dick energy doe. I get it but that's literally all I see for him n im like, king deserves to relax and have a nice time and not have to put on a front for once.
I'm King of Being Unnecessarily Soft and being a baby to charas that are stinky but also I Love Angst and Thrive There.
3) did you used to ship your f/o with anyone before realizing you wanted to ship them with yourself?
Nope. I never liked shipping canon characters unless theyre actually officially together and even then im like hmm writers can be wrong.
4) do you feel like you have to defend your f/o all the time? 
Maybe a little? But also not really - if anything, I'm his biggest threat. I bully all my f/os so much im like ... yall im sorry ily im just a bitch 😔 I'm kinda defensive ab how he's written but i simply Look Away and Do Not See It. also @ the spardacest mfs ill kill you.
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