#like i think i could've done a better job dropping hints and trying to explain what happened but also

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Back again, this time with the expectations duo! I’ll just get right into it, starting with…

Prisoner 003: Shun Ishizu

Oh Christ, this one’s even more of a headache. The CLOSET, MAN.

To start with, he pretty clearly killed his ex’s new boyfriend (who I’ll call Kuro, because “his ex’s new boyfriend” is WAY too long to keep typing). If we assume what happened in the MV is somewhat true (which I will because otherwise I have jack shit to go on), he invited his ex over to celebrate something (maybe a birthday? Hopefully not their anniversary, that’s just way too weird), and his ex brought Kuro along.

Then apparently he stabbed Kuro to death in his kitchen. Which is somehow the least concerning part about all this.

First of all, the closet doors. What is up with that. Why did Shun wave at his closet. Why does the video end with closet doors shutting on his ex’s POV. Is Shun keeping his ex in the closet? Is Shun keeping more than one of his exes in his closet? I think he’s definitely keeping at least one ex in his closet.

Secondly, if Shun did actually kill Kuro while his ex was over… how did he manage to avoid getting caught immediately? He lives in an apartment, wouldn’t his neighbours have heard screaming or something? Were the events of the MV more metaphorical maybe??? You mentioned the cake-baking was symbolic of Shun trying to forget his crime by replacing it with something else, so maybe the MV is a metaphor. Who knows, this dude gives me a headache.

Third, Shun’s last memory before MILGRAM. This is obviously not terribly reliable, considering it’s Shun we’re talking about, but he says he thinks he was laying on the floor next to somebody else before getting up to make food for the two of them. He also says he thinks it took him a while. Assuming this is correct… who the fuck was he laying next to, and why? It probably wasn’t Kuro, because why would Shun want to cook for him, so I guess it must have been the ex? (That poor woman is so dead, isn’t she.)

Okay, so with all that in mind, here’s my best guess as to what’s going on with him: Shun actually has two victims, his ex-girlfriend and her current boyfriend, Kuro. Probably a cop-out, but I think the MV could be blending multiple events together, thanks to Shun’s fucked-up memory and delusional tendencies. The first important event is Shun inviting his ex over to celebrate something (maybe a birthday?), and she brings Kuro along. This is the first time Shun and Kuro meet, and Shun immediately dislikes Kuro. Shun, being jealous and delusional, eventually decides the best course of action is to kidnap his ex, so he does that off-screen, ties her up and locks her in his closet. He then invites Kuro to his apartment under the pretence of being concerned about his ex going missing and wanting to talk, and stabs him to death in the kitchen (somehow not alerting the neighbours). He then shows his ex Kuro’s dead body in an attempt to convince her to get back with him (because he’s delusional and probably a yandere, considering he’s planned to cover Tailor Shop on Enbizaka), and when that doesn’t work he gets frustrated and kills her too. He then collapses from the physical and/or mental strain, leading to his final memory of laying on the floor with someone else (his dead girlfriend) before slowly getting up to make food (because he’s already dissociated enough he doesn’t recall killing her). Shun thinks his ex is alive because he still doesn’t recall killing her, and probably doesn’t recall kidnapping her either.

…Okay, that sounds kind of insane and it’s probably at least half-wrong, but in my defence IDK what the fuck is going on with this dude, I think this is as good as I can get with the information we have now. This theory took me like all weekend, cut me some slack.

Prisoner 004: Naomi Chiba

Another easy one, thank GOD. Once again, most of the murder is already out in the open, so I’ll just recap and add in my speculation when relevant.

So, let’s start with the victim. I’ll call them Gaki for short. Gaki was one of Naomi’s students, and he was a troubled kid, clearly suffering some sort of familial abuse. As a result, he was a giant dick to everybody at school, including their classmates and teacher, Naomi. (This is probably where her Undercover flashback scene comes in: I’m willing to bet she’s picking up books because Gaki knocked them out of her hands.)

Naomi was clearly being driven insane by this kid, and so were her students. After a while, Naomi stopped wanting to help Gaki so much as she just wanted him to stop causing her grief.

One night, Naomi was driving home from the school, probably delayed by some problem Gaki had caused, and saw him on the street. In a fit of rage, she ran him over. (This is pictured in her MV, where she’s in her rapidly-flooding car and singing about hating someone so much she wants them dead.)

Here’s where the fucked up part comes in: Naomi is obviously horrified at what she did and regretted it almost immediately… but she’s literally the only person who cares. Everyone else was just thankful he was gone. So now Naomi is saddled with the suffocating guilt of killing a student she knows was acting out because he had a bad home life, made worse by the fact that she’s the only person who even cares that he’s dead.

(Also, bonus thoughts: I wonder what Naomi honestly thinks of her job? In her QNA session she says she doesn’t deserve or want to be a mother, and that she became a teacher because she wanted to do it as a child and her family thought she’d make a good one. She also seems shocked and then deflects with “a lot of people have told me that” when Miki says she can see Naomi being good with kids. I know she seems like a super nice teacher, but… is she actually all that fond of kids, or is she just doing it because she felt pressured into it by her family, and it’s a very stable job? (Seriously, it’s a super solid profession in Japan. Well-paid and excellent job security. Look it up if you don’t believe me!) She also says in the QNA that she wishes she wasn’t close with her parents, which seems to point to a messy relationship. Just some food for thought, I guess.)

So, that’s a wrap! Tune in next time for the idealization/betrayal duo, Kei Sanada and Eiko Yoshioka! (…Did you ever pick an official theme for those two, by the way?)

the expectations duo is like.. one of them has one of the easiest crimes here and the other one has ONE OF THE HARDEST CRIMES THAT ACTUALLY MAKES ME CRY AND NOT BECAUSE IT'S SO SAD BUT BECAUSE SHUN WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS

okay, it's basically impossible to talk about shun's mv without spoiling anything, so i'll just answer some questions that shun won't (or can't) answer himself and also can't be explained in the mvs/interrogations/voice dramas/etc.

you're right, shun actually had two victims and not just one, those victims were his "ex" and her new boyfriend. which is already, like, not a good sign because it means that he was either lying or he actually doesn't remember killing his ex. or maybe even both.

about the closet.. it's gonna be shown again in his second mv and i feel like the reveal will be very underwhelming 😭😭 all i can say right now is that no, shun, didn't kill all his "other girlfriends", even though that sounds like a very cool concept.

about the apartment. i can imagine shun's apartment being.. not the best place to live in, his neighbors either came home only after school/work/etc to spend the night somewhere or.. they were just not the most sane people themselves. and also, when i wrote down everything that happened before, during and after his murder, it actually scared me just how smart shun actually is. he planned all of this and he actually waited for almost all of his neighbors to leave and he didn't care about the "weird" ones, he knew that they won't hear any noises and they won't even care about any dead bodies. shun's apartment being such a bad place can also explain why no one cared about shun's murder, especially if he didn't get rid of the bodies. his neighbors probably were used to weird, gross and scary stuff and they also knew about shun's.. personality, so they just either decided to ignore it or they were too busy (or tired) to actually try to understand what happened. as long as they're not the ones in danger, everything is fine, right? (so shun wasn't wrong when he said that "milgram is not that different from his apartment". milgram is actually most likely better)

it's more than okay to find shun's murder hard to solve, because. um. considering how delusional this guy is, it's possible that everything that we know right now about his crime is either a lie, him trying to replace the "bad" memories or a mix of both. thankfully, he got voted innocent and his ideas were affirmed, so he will be more confident about revealing information about himself in season 2. his season 2 trailer voiceline is already.. a lot. if you want a hint, i'd suggest thinking a bit more about his undercover lyrics.

about naomi, you're pretty much right about everything! she really did run the kid over and that's what the "car part" meant. and about her job, she didn't really like it, but she liked her students and she really was very close with all of them except her victim. she really did try her best to help them, especially the ones who were abused, bullied, ignored by everyone, etc. she chose to become a teacher only because of her family, but she didn't regret it that much because of her students (or at least most of them). but she still doesn't want to become a mother because she doesn't want to make the same mistakes her parents did and she would want her children to have mentally stable parents that will never hurt them, which is not something she can guarantee right now. so yeah, her relationship with her parents was.. bad.

(about kei and eiko, i think "idealization" fits them more? "betrayal" still fits them, but i think it doesn't describe their murders that well. like come on, a guy who kidnapped someone to make him his muse and thought he was perfect in every way and a girl who murdered someone because he wasn't "perfect" enough? yeah, "idealization".)

#tbh revealing stuff about shun's crime makes me a bit nervous because it's so. like. #shun if you're able to get out of here alive you have to go to therapy right after that #like i think i could've done a better job dropping hints and trying to explain what happened but also #this guy is 1) good at lying and 2) good at replacing and changing his own memories #man naomi's crime really is going to be entirely solved before the second trial starts #❔answering asks ❔ #💔prisoner 003: ishizu shun 💔 #🌿prisoner 004: chiba naomi🌿