#or otherwise there's some bullshit flowery line about 'notoriously uninterested in the charms of women'

[majordomo-zazu]

//Not really in the Lion King headspace atm so I’ll just add to the GoT ranting but one (of few, to be fair) aspects where I think the show did better than the books is how it handled its gay characters

#Out of Service Out of Africa (OOC) #//like the most common criticism of the show in this regard is 'It makes those characters tied to their sexuality and nothing else!' #but hey. at least the show actually explicitly says it and you don't have to dig through subtext and throwaway lines #and like the common response to that is 'It was the nineties! He couldn't have wrote that in!' #but like. this is also the book series that has extremely (often needlessly) graphic depictions of r*pe. murder. torture. incest. ect #not that gayness is equal to any of those things but that kind of highlights my point no? #and the only ''explicitly'' gay characters are just depicted as being predatory towards little boys which is obviously Not Great #-and that comes up more than characters being predatory towards younger-than-twelve girls. Not commenting on that just saying- #or otherwise there's some bullshit flowery line about 'notoriously uninterested in the charms of women' #like I'm not calling George a homophobe or anything he's obviously (...relatively) progressive #but if he REALLY wanted too he could've. And keep in mind I only just finished Clash but I don't think Jon Connington is any less subtextual #granted that the major LGBT characters in the show are dead now but so is like 75% of the cast so I'm not /that/ mad about that #and I kind of like the ''depth'' (if you can call it that) the show gave Loras and Renly #being afraid of blood is a nice character quirk and yeah Loras got with another guy after Renly died. People move on and cope differentlyidc #like I can get the 'they just made this character their sexuality!' argument #and I know straight writers and fans mean well. but they really just can't understand how much being LGBT DOES affect your sense of self #how you carry yourself. who you choose to be close too. your childhood. how you to relate to your family. your friends. strangers. ect #it would be an especially huge part of your self-identity if you lived in a ''heteronormative'' (as much as I hate that word) feudal society #like ASOIAF is too #anyway thats my needlessly long TEDTalk #and why Renly is a red deer stag and Loras is a cheviot ram #I'm in that Robin Hood headspace reading the books where I'm just like 'Oh. Dontos Hollard...He's a panda.'