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#and somehow turn it into ''heteronormativity'' YOU PPL ARE JUST SAYING WORDS AT THIS POINT!!!
welcometogrouchland · 1 month
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Also in the replies of the Steph concept art on twitter announcing she was gonna be in a new project at DC (posted by Travis Mercer), there were at least 3 comments saying "will Tim be there?" I don't care how hard you ship timsteph I'm exploding you with my eyeballs if you do that on my girls post again
#ramblings of a lunatic#taking a step back to acknowledge that my stanning may be getting overzealous#but then again I'm not in ppls quotes or replies I'm vagueing on an entirely different website with no relevant tags. it could be worse#anyway I know tims had it rough these past couple of months ever since zdarsky shifted focus of the batman title to have less tim#but it still feels. idk. just a wee bit uninspired to act like steph can't go two steps without tim being behind her#im ngl i like timsteph when they're cute but timsteph twitter has been. pissing me off a tad lately#the refusal to acknowledge the sexism in dixons robin run and how it impacts stephs writing and their relationships writing#the refusal to acknowledge tims occasional condescension and hypocrisy when it comes to stephs vigilantism#seemingly only wanting her to be spoiler when he wants her around and telling her to give it up most of the time#also the constant disrespect of stephs batgirl era on there weirdly enough?#I've harped on about this on main and in drafts but despite it's flaws it's a good turn for stephs character#she's the focus she gets development (an upward trajectory! which had previously been unheard of for her! bc she did have flaws as spoiler-#-its just that both writers and characters alike seemed to arbitrarily decide she didn't have the capacity to grow past them! but she did!)#hell i saw a BIZARRE take today i just have to bitch about#which was them saying that Batgirl was a ''heteronormative mask'' steph put on#with spoiler being her more authentic self (and this being paralleled to gender expression with stephs isolation from the batfam as spoiler-#-showing how she ''wasnt like them'')#which. I'm not denying you the view that spoiler has a certain genderific swag to her but the needless dragging of her batgirl persona#steph got treated badly as spoiler bc she was A Girl. it's genuinely that simple dixon felt batman and robin would never stand for a girl-#-running around doing the things they did and would need to chivalrously stop her. he's gone on record saying this#she's constantly getting belittled by mostly men (cass also dismisses her but it feels distinctly less gendered)#and in the end it's barbara who learns to give steph a second chance despite her mistakes and they have a positive relationship#something ppl are quick to dismiss as being in and of itself sexist bc they're pairing the two girls off together#as if batgirl isn't a legacy and as if babs and steph don't have parallels in their resilience and refusal to accept when ppl tell them no#for better and for worse!!#like. idk how you took the strongest feminist element in that comic (bc there are elements of sexism here and there! 2009 n all)#and somehow turn it into ''heteronormativity'' YOU PPL ARE JUST SAYING WORDS AT THIS POINT!!!#anyway. someone take away my internet access
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vlovers19 · 4 years
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Someone on twitter said that : """My favorite thing about this interview is that Tae clearly STILL doesn't understand why he couldn't sing this song with his bestie. I love a man who doesn't conflate platonic love with sex/romance.""" And it makes me so angry for 2 reason: - they think Tae is dumb - thinking this song is platonic bc he wanted to sing it with a man is heteronormative Ppl need to stop using the word platonic to erase the possibility of a romance btw the same gender.
When I saw this ask, I got quite angry and I realized that if any member of BTS dares to come out as gay, they are doomed.
I see Heteronomativity as a view that seeks to discriminate against all other sexualities and I'm not just saying this because of vmin. People of this view feel that the best form of love is between people with different genders and I believe that they are correct in their own right but when you start eliminating the possibility of two people having a different sexuality other than yours, it becomes a problem.
Just like how everything Vmin does is classified as 'what a great friendship', Taehyung writing that Christmas duet song will definitely look like it's platonic when obviously it's not.
Do you know that Vmin is the only ship in Bts that is tagged with the friendship label despite everything they do? Namjin, Sope, Yoonkook, Taegi and so many others are even viewed romantically. People hardly use the 'friend' tag with them but with Vmin, it's the first label you see associated with them. No one even wants to give them a chance. That's why as a vmin shipper, you'll find yourself getting angry almost everytime you click on the internet and search on vmin. It's really not encouraging.
I have learned with time not to get easily angry over such views because I just see it as a propaganda used to quiet vmin no matter how loud they get. The situation is just like being trapped in a tight prison. When you manage to find a way to escape, the jailers always find you and keep you locked back in prison.
One thing I have asked myself is why are Vmin so different? Why are they the only ones with the friendship label tagged on them? Yes, they see each other as friends but why can't people see there might be a possibility that friendship isn't all that's going on between them especially when you take into consideration the things they do but every light moment done by the more popular ship is taken very seriously. When vmin does their weird soulmate thing, no one will bat an eye lid because people would cook up one reason or the other not to believe what they saw but let the popular ships do it and there is an instant uproar.
The fact that they won't even consider vmin could be as a result of denial. Like i said before, people want to believe what they want. They want to believe that Taehyung is straight but when they are presented with some evidences that he may not be as straight as they think, they will want to bury it, deny it or cover it up. As you pointed out, Taehyung isn't a fool. He knew what he was aiming for by telling people about the Christmas song but they just turned it around to suit themselves, to suit their own beliefs so Taehyung probably felt defeated and decided to just keep his song to himself.
So that you can keep enjoying vmin, ignore what people say no matter how annoying it is. We have to understand that not everyone will have the same opinion and if you belong to the LGBTQ community or you are just a supporter, you have to be extra strong and believe in vmin's bond because we know the truth. That they care about one another very much and somehow, I think they want us to know too.
Anyway, thanks for reading. I answered this ask in the spur of the moment. Have a good day and remember 95z is love.
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