#hell they explicitly say that guy in the chair trap did nothing wrong he was just dying 'for a greater purpose' to test the trap.

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i feel like im never going to be fully satisfied by any saw sequel (or the fanbase for that matter) bc i dont think the majority of ppl involved read jigsaw the same way i did.

#all these attempts to like humanize and flesh him out just end up totaly misrepresenting him and his goals #no he is not actually trying to improve the world hes a sadistic little man whos angry about dying and coping with it badly #he gets a front row seat to all his games and cuts trophies off his dead victims. bc he likes the violence #he puts people who absolutely DID NOT DESERVE IT (in saw 1 at least) in these elaborate death traps that they overwhelmingly fail to escape #sometimes he puts a completely innocent person in the crossfire (like seriously who is that guy who amanda had to kill to get her key) #hell they explicitly say that guy in the chair trap did nothing wrong he was just dying 'for a greater purpose' to test the trap. #but nobody ever acknowledges all this its just like 'what if we give him depth by saying serial killing isn't so bad' #and it never works and usually ends up with him being unbelievably self impressed and annoying #id honestly rather they explore his 'depth' by just. expanding on him as in denial and wanting revenge #which tbf i thought X was doing a decent job at until the last half hour when they threw the character study away entirely #like just give me a jigsaw who is angry at dying and takes it out on the Living because he has no other outlet. ill accept that. #him killing people who need to go can be like. gory tasteless fun in the sequels but it makes it like. #idk. less satisfying to me? or it just puts this wall up that makes the movies not come together the way the first one does. #avpost #movie diary