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#i don't accept religion as an excuse because there's plenty of religious people who respect others
torgawl · 1 year
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the arguments homophobic people make against same sex couples raising kids makes literally zero sense considering they raise no problem to single parent families. the problem really isn't that there's an absent gender, because if it was they would chase and/or blame single parents and they don't.
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kincringeemporium · 7 years
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I've read your reasons on why you're anti kin and they make sense (although I don't think they always apply and I'll need more time to digest your viewpoint.) But I noticed that many of the points you brought up apply to religion just as well and are in fact some of the reasons I'm against religion. Are you against religion too?
i mean.... yes and no. i'm against religion when it's used in the same way as kin - to ignore reality, lock yourself into unhealthy coping mechanisms, attempt to 'recruit' others, and generally act like an ass. 
i actually support the inner peace, stability, and hope religion brings a lot of people. and we should always acknowledge the diversity of the world's faiths, because often times (at least in the states), people automatically think of Christianity when they hear "religion" used in this sense. plenty of religions center around worshipping or working with nature and the universe -- not necessarily one central deity. 
it's those nature/cosmic force - centered religions i'm the most okay with. idk why, exactly. i guess it's just a preference, but it's influenced by the fact that i do care about protecting the environment. 
but i digress a bit. i'm against religion when: 
- it is used as a platform for discrimination (ie, praying the gay away) 
-it is used to encourage, celebrate, and glorify delusions/symptoms (ie, person's hallucinations, caused by an illness, are seen as visions and the person thinks they're some kind of prophet) (this is a huge part of why i'm against kin in general)
-people claim that everyone who does not follow a particular religion is going to hell/going to be punished for it 
-it encourages people to think that they're pawns or toys or whatever for a higher power, devaluing them 
-it's a person's sole reason for living, all they think about, all that matters to them (and i'm not calling out decent religious leaders. that's their job and they are devoted, not obsessed) 
-people deny that science and religion can coexist
-people think that being religious makes them righteous, whole, or better than someone who doesn't have one or has a different one 
now, these reasons -- like my reasons for being antikin -- apply to people who take religion to the extreme. and there's always a risk involved in joining any community, holding any faith. there's always the risk that you could end up taking it to an extreme, intentionally or not; you could influence someone young and impressionable and not ready into it, intentionally or not. 
sometimes, kin is just casual. sometimes it's just a connection and people don't claim to have characters' memories or identities, they don't try to convince others to be kin, they don't start drama, they don't fight over doubles, they don't disrespect creators (or religions, for that matter.) 
and sometimes, religion is.. honestly... a coping mechanism (a far better one than kin tbh). by putting faith in a higher power, or in nature, or in karma, sometimes people can rest. they can recharge, they can take a step back and look at the bigger picture. they can be motivated to work on their morals, their values, their problems. and they don't use it as an excuse to be cruel to others. i think this is the case way more than hateful religion is.
so, yes, i accept religion when it's used in that way; i tolerate kin when it's just a spiritual connection or a temporary way for someone to relax. i don't like or respect either when they become extreme, hateful, and harmful. 
surprisingly thought provoking ask for this time of night lmao 
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