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justjensenanddean · 4 years
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Does The Boys' Liberty Have A Connection To Jensen Ackles' Soldier Boy?
Spoilers ahead for Episode 4 of The Boys Season 2 on Amazon Prime.
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The Boys has delivered a major twist that one Supe is much older than they seem in Season 2. The reveal that Liberty, a.k.a. the Supe who committed a racially-motivated murder back in 1979, is none other than Stormfront not only raises questions about the rest of Season 2, but potentially Season 3 as well. Does Liberty have a connection to none other than Soldier Boy, who will be played by Supernatural's Jensen Ackles in Season 3? Let's break it down.
Based on Valerie's recount of the Supe who murdered her brother back in the late 1970s and the fact that she recognized modern Stormfront as the woman who did it, it's safe to say that one of Stormfront's powers is that she somehow doesn't age like everybody else. In fact, The Boys showrunner Eric Kripke has already confirmed some key details about Liberty/Stormfront, telling The Wrap:
“I can spoil the amount that Starlight will be tracking Stormfront in the next episode and will get confirmation that it is, in fact, true. Stormfront is just much older than they thought. And with Compound V, anything is possible and she just doesn’t age like other people age. And it all kind of falls into this thesis with her, which is, she comes off as so modern and media-savvy and up-to-the-minute. But what she’s really selling is a very, very old evil and hate that’s been around for thousands of years. And so the idea that she is older than we think and has been pitching the same shit for decades now, made sense to us.”
If Stormfront is "much older" than Hughie and Co. thought, she "doesn't age like other people," and anything is possible with Compound V, doesn't it stand to reason that she could have looked the same much farther back than 1979? As in, as far back as the late 1930s/early 1940s, when Soldier Boy became the first public Supe for Vought? Eric Kripke has already confirmed that the Soldier Boy that Jensen Ackles will be playing is indeed "the very first Superhero" from way back when.
Furthermore, Stan Edgar's Vought history lesson to Homelander in the Season 2 premiere revealed that the original Vought founder was the chief physician at the Dachau concentration camp, where he had "ready supply of human subjects on which to test his earliest iterations of Compound V," which modern Vought of course condemns. Frederick Vought switched from the Nazis to the Allies in 1944, after which he perfected Compound V to create Soldier Boy. If he could publicly create Soldier Boy in the '40s, couldn't he have secretly created Stormfront in the late '30s for the Nazis?
If Jensen Ackles' Soldier Boy is going to be the one created in the mid-1940s, as Eric Kripke indicated, then The Boys will either have to use flashbacks to Soldier Boy's heyday or reveal that the original Soldier Boy is still alive and kicking in modern days. I for one doubt that The Boys will go to all the trouble of reuniting Supernatural creator Eric Kripke with Jensen Ackles just to cover Ackles in old age makeup to play an elderly Soldier Boy.
Now, let's connect some dots. We have a Stormfront who is much older than she looks and holds some violently racist views, we have a Vought founder who experimented with Compound V for the Nazis, we have that same Vought founder who was publicly successful with Compound V for the Allies shortly thereafter, and we have Jensen Ackles playing the original Soldier Boy in Season 3.
Call me a crackpot theorist, but I can imagine a future reveal in which Stormfront was created by Frederick Vought for the Nazis shortly before Soldier Boy was created by Frederick Vought for the Allies, with the same basic Compound V formula giving them both the ability to not age like other people and therefore both appear in the present, either as comrades or nemeses.
Of course, that does leave the question of what would have happened to Soldier Boy over the past 80 years or so, but if Stormfront could have successfully posed as a lower-tier Supe known as Liberty a generation ago, why couldn't Soldier Boy have done the same? Surely it's no coincidence that The Boys has already name-dropped a character who won't appear until Season 3, who also happens to be played by a reasonably big name in genre TV.
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aion-rsa · 4 years
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The Boys Season 2: Who Is the Sage Grove Hospital Guy?
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It’s safe to say that Stormfront (Aya Cash) has irons in the fire, having been around long enough to carry out Vought plans effortlessly and with psychopathic precision, and in the fifth episode of The Boys Season 2, we find out that she’s installed former The Seven member Lamplighter (Shawn Ashmore) in a hospital working undercover for her – but to what end?
In ‘We Gotta Go Now’, we get our first introduction to the Green Lantern-esque Lamplighter in a brief scene that aligns him with the despicable Stormfront, but that also gives us an inkling that all is not well when it comes to his wavering psyche and ongoing loyalty to Vought.
“No one ever said the job was easy,” says Stormfront on a catch-up call between herself and the ‘retired’ Lamplighter, who appears to be monitoring a valuable target.
“He’s just a kid; 17 years old,” Lamplighter complains in response, as he fiddles with a ‘Titty Committee’ logo-emblazoned lighter. “You don’t gotta to look him in the face!”
“Look, no one’s ever achieved anything without sacrifice,” Stormfront replies on the other end. “The kid’s a hero! Think of it like that.”
“Right. A hero,” Lamplighter says, ending the conversation abruptly with a quick glance at the phone. It’s clear he’s conflicted about the assignment from Stormfront, and as we leave the former supe, we can see that he’s wearing scrubs that read “Sage Grove Centre” which appears to be a mental health facility.
Though we hadn’t seen the fire-powered Lamplighter on screen until now, he’s been discussed a few times before in Amazon‘s brutal superhero adaptation. You may even remember that his erstwhile retirement from The Seven led to an opening eventually filled by Starlight (Erin Moriarty), and in the Season 1 finale, we also discovered during a conversation between Billy Butcher (Karl Urban) and his last C.I.A. contact Grace Mallory (Laila Robbins) that Lamplighter was the supe who killed her grandchildren, so we were left to assume he was just another a superhero gone bad.
In Garth Ennis and Darick Robertson’s comics, Lamplighter has a similar backstory to the one he has in the series, but in the comics he is murdered out of vengeance by Mallory and resurrected by Vought as a zombie. Here, he’s not been nixed after the slaughtering of Mallory’s grandchildren, and is on a different path.
Lamplighter actor Ashmore is a horror genre staple, having had major parts in The Ruins, Frozen (don’t accidentally let the kiddies watch this one!), Hatchet 2 and Supermassive Games’ first Dark Pictures entry, Man of Medan, but is still best known for playing Bobby Drake/Iceman in the X-Men movie franchise, a role that The Boys showrunner Eric Kripke noted back when he first cast Ashmore.
“We were thrilled that Shawn—who is, let’s be honest, an OG superhero—wanted to play the crucial part of Lamplighter,” Kripke said. “He brings so much depth, menace, and world weary humanity to this former member of the Seven. And Shawn is a really good guy.”
The Boys has left us wondering who could be so important to Stormfront at this stage that she would put Lamplighter on guard duty. Is it someone close to Starlight, who just confronted her about the ‘old days’ she spent as the equally racist supe, Liberty? Or is there a cog in the gears that the series doesn’t want us to know about yet; someone whose manipulation at the hands of Lamplighter could spell trouble for everyone?
Either way, it looks like we’ll be seeing a lot more of Lamplighter in Season 2’s final episodes…
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