#said 'no one is saying mike is abusive they're like foils' and the mlvn was like lol i don't know what that means and they were like

[maddy-ferguson]

mike/brenner mike/hopper and mlvn family parallels in general make me feel like i'm the wife in a horror movie like i KNOW this sounds crazy i know el's boyfriend being paralleled to her abusive father figure and her adoptive dad being an indication that there's something wrong with their relationship sounds crazy but it's very much in the show it's happened many times i didn't come up with it myself

#otp: i guess it's not #the mike/brenner isn't even a deep cut. it's like. in one of the scenes. very obvious #remember that time a mlvn on twitter was saying bylers who compare mike to brenner are craaazzzy it's so problematic whatever and a byler #said 'no one is saying mike is abusive they're like foils' and the mlvn was like lol i don't know what that means and they were like #of course you don't you're in middle school. pay attention in english class #but this (not the pay attention what i just said about feeling crazy) is actually true of a thousand anti mlvn arguments #even normal ones like say el shouldn't date the boy who taught her the concept of privacy people will go wow so you think women dont know #how to think for themselves huh. so with things like the mike/brenner parallels it's like. of course this wouldn't be taken well. lmao #and like i say: brf slt