#they're not going to claim Balder is Thor's brother too are they?

[valkyrieandstrangeridingaragorn]

Hm, Loki’s a god whether his timeline is gone or not. In that regard, he is one of them. “Them” being gods.

That “left out” comment... There’s kind of an interesting little parallel between the MCU and actual Norse mythology happening—scholars argue that Loki wasn’t a “god” and was never worshipped in ancient times. He was powerful, he was Odin’s blood-brother, he often accompanied Odin and Thor, but he was only a trickster. In a sense, he was left out.

Balder was probably an easter egg or tease, since he was supposed to be in Multiverse of Madness. He could still show up at some point somewhere.

I get what you're saying (and keep in mind I'm not watching this season so if I read a dialogue in an ask I don't really have any context and I don't know about tone, etc), but Mobius' line of "You are one of them" while they're standing in front of statues of Odin, Thor and Balder + knowing he was never truly part of that because he's a Jotun... at the very least it's tone-deaf.

I'm sure it can be interpreted as Mobius saying "You are a god, I can't believe I'm talking to an actual god", but in the context of Loki's story, it sounds a little mean. And it came after Mobius had teased him by implying he was envious because there was no statue of him.

I would be a lot less sensitive and far more accepting if the series had scenes where Loki gets to express himself and he talks about his experiences, if that so-called "enviousness" was explained, if they actually let him tell his own story then I'd be more forgiving with scenes like that one in the Fair and I'd just consider it some funny moment not meant to be taken seriously. But the problem is he never has a chance to do that, his life is always told and defined by others, and his motives are reduced to "he's envious, he got mad, he's a narcissist, etc".

I like the parallel you draw between that line and the mythology though. I can see your point but I feel like that's even more reason to have Loki take control and own it. He should prove them wrong by demonstrating he's as much a god as the others, that the mere idea of him being any lesser is bullshit and not based on reality (we saw how flawed Odin was, Thor was too but in the MCU most of their actions are protected by the narrative unlike Loki's).

I don't see the series doing this though. I only see them basically confirming he is not one of them and inferior in every way.

I didn't know that about Balder and MoM though, so thanks for letting me know. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in those meetings, I'm imagining Waldron and the others thinking of a million characters to include and someone asking "Uh, do we need to have Stephen Strange in this one too?". 🤦‍♀️

#they're not going to claim Balder is Thor's brother too are they? #because I will get very mad if they do #I really really hope they won't go that route

[valkyrieandstrangeridingaragorn]

"#they're not going to claim Balder is Thor's brother too are they?" - Lmao, another surprise sibling for Thor? I hate it, but also kinda want to see Thor's reaction to that? Eh, let's hope not. And, yeah, Elizabeth Olsen confirmed he was supposed to be played by Daniel Craig. I think for a cameo in the Illuminati scene? Balder was gonna have a bad time, I'm guessing.

Oh nice, so we could have seen Wanda completely obliterating a so-called brother of Thor? You know what... I kinda like that idea. Away with that impostor, Thor only has one brother 😂

Seriously though, my fear is that if they bring another brother for Thor they might actually tell the story they should have told with him and Loki but with Balder instead. And that Loki would be replaced somehow by someone else who would take his spot next to Thor but would receive better treatment in the MCU (Balder being more manly and of course beloved by everyone around him in direct contrast to Loki's othered nature).

But... if he story includes Thor rejecting this guy and saying only Loki is his real brother and then Loki (the real one, not the series Loki) comes back to life somehow and kills Balder and reunites with Thor then............... I wouldn't mind that. 😏