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My mom accidentally joined a grieving support group (long story, she's not grieving tho) and she's missing it this week while visiting me and she's VERY concerned that Lorraine, who very kindly offered to bring a baked good like mom usually would, will NOT bring the correct kind of dessert, she says citrus tarts aren't "griefy" enough

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plenty of cunt at the feast of life

plenty of cunt to share

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The funny result of converting into the Episcopalian Church is that I find myself re-litigating the Reformation with my mom as a consequence of her loyalty to my anabaptist ancestors. She's not even a Christian but she is a Protestant.

#as an agnostic I am fundementally irritated by the introduction of “sola fida” interpretations of religion #which in my opinion is the reason people assume that agnostics are inherently nonreligious #episcopalian #I quite like how the Anglican communion isn't exactly on one side or the other

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The problem with polls is that it's hard to express nuance - Agnostic Christian

#I have never understood why people assume agnostic means necessarily nonreligious

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"is the crucifixion of jesus christ whump?" - the greatest thread in the history of forums, locked by a moderator after 12,239 pages of heated debate,

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Hi anon! I'm a bisexual transmasculine agnostic Christian belonging to the Episcopal Church, and the history of Christianity is kind of one of my hyperfixations, so I would love to talk about it.

Catholics are Christians.

Specifically, they are Christians who put a high degree of importance on Bishops (as do Orthodox, Anglican, and many others (old order and etc). You will notice that as I describe things, I am going to bold certain words, and these words will explain how the different denominations in Christianity are named.

Catholics are the branch of the church led by the Bishop of Rome, aka the Pope. Bishops are leaders of the church. (Some churches call their leaders Elders.) Catholics consider the Bishop of Rome to be the most importantant leader because it is claimed that St. Peter operated out of Rome. He was one of the Apostles.

The meaning of the word catholic is universal. Catholics (uppercase C) claim to have authority over the universal Christian church, which is why they call themselves Catholic. As you might expect, other churches disagree quite a lot. There have been some wars about this.

Protestant churches started after Martin Luther nailed a bunch of complaints (protests) about the Catholic church to a door. Lutherism is an example of a protestant church denomination. Presbyterian is another word that a protestant church may call itself. One typical element of Protestant churches is that they try to stick as close to their interpretation of the bible as they can, and consider things like saints and bishops to be unbiblical extras.

Another common description of some churches is Evengelical. Evengelical churches are churches that think evangelism is an especially important Christian duty. Evangelism means literally to spread the Good News, or the Gospel. The good news they are talking about is Jesus rising from the dead at Easter. I have kinda tried to avoid bias so far, but in my opinion part of the way churches try to convince you that their news is good is to convince you that everyone is going to hell, but Good News, Jesus will save you. I'm not a huge fan of that sort of evangelism (This is not my interpretation of Christianity, so I apologize if I have misrepresented anyone.) I would love to learn if I am wrong.

Many Protestant churches are nondenominational. Non-denom churches are less fussed about hierarchy, which makes them kind of the opposite of churches who care a lot about bishops and elders.

The Anglican church started because King Henry VIII, who was the king of England, wanted a divorce and was not granted one by the Pope.

The Episcopal Church broke off from the Anglican Church during the American Revolution because it was a bit awkward to be at war with England when the monarch of England is the head of your church. Episcopal means lead by Bishops. We consider ourselves part of the Anglican tradition and in some ways, we are still one church with England, while maintaining our authority to sometimes do our own thing. One of the things we do is have LGBT clergy and our clergy can preside over gay marriages.

Some other church denominations: Babtists - I think the big thing with Baptists is they are very enthusiastic about baptisms, but only of adults, not of babies. Anabaptists aren't the same as baptists but they also only believe in adult baptism. The Amish/Mennonites are examples of Anabaptists. Fun fact, my great grandparents were Mennonites. (I would scandalize them in so many ways, I think.) Mennonites/the Amish tend to value showing faith by being seperate from the secular world, and they do this by following ordinances (rules) that will keep them from being part of the secular world.

Honerable Mention: Unitarian Universalists. Not all Unitarian Universalists consider themselves Christian. Traditionally, Unitarians believe in one (nontrinitarian) God, and Universalists believed in universal salvation. It it turns out that both those things meant they were similar kinds of weird, so they united and made the UU and they are super cool. They consider it more important to have shared values than shared beliefs, and I think that is kind of neat. They value social activism and are very likely to be welcome of LGBT members. UU members may be Christian, agnostic, pagan, athiest, eclectic, Jewish, Buddhist or some combination of all the above.

I am going to be honest I think an undervalued way to learn about Christianity is to go to church. This can be a scary thing if you are queer. Not all churches are lgbt friendly. Even worse, some churches will pretend to welcome lgbt members but will not really accept you as you are.

How do you figure out if a church is accepting? I can only give you tips for the United States.

If you are in the United States, try one of the following denominations.

UMC (United Methodist Church) THEY JUST VOTED TO BE ACCEPTING. I am sure that many of their churches would be excited to have you as a member.

Episcopal - they have been accepting for a number of years!

UU - many UUs have been fighting for lgbt rights for years and years.

ELCA (Evengelical Lutheran Church in America)

Individual nondenominational churches and smaller denominations that explicitely affirm lgbt people. You may have to do some digging!

Beware: Even when the parent organizations are accepting of LGBT+ people, individual churches might not be! Most churches have websites. Frequently, a church that is welcoming of lgbt people will say it somewhere on the website. Find out if the church performs gay marriages and accepts lgbt clergy. Ask straight out. "Does your church ordain out gay clergy? Will your minister perform Gay marriages?" If the church won't give you a straightforward answer, they are lying about being affirming and hope you will join the church so they can change you.

Naughty List: Non-Affirming churches. Boo hiss

The Catholic Church

WELS Lutheran (Wisconsin Synod Lutheran Church)

LCMS (Missouri Synod Lutheran Church)

Global Methodist Churches

LDS/Mormons/ Church of Laterday Saints

Hillsong affiliated Churches

Jehova's Witnesses

Anglican Churches in the United States that do not also have the word Episcopal in their name somewhere

Iam a lesbian and ive been getting interested in the catholic religion,kind of drawn to it. Where could i like learn about it without having to read the bible(i enjoy to learn about religions)also is there any difference between Catholic and Christianity?

Also religions wise ive just always been very agnostic person but ive never been religious.

The main differences between Catholics and Christians as far as I can list as someone who left a while ago is the fact that Catholic focus a lot on the institution of the church and Pope compared to Christians. There is also a lot more focus on Saints and Mary. I really don’t know many ways to learn without being directly in the religion since I grew up in the Church but you could always research about more information about the history of the Church :)

#queer christian #lgbt christian #episcopalian #methodist #catholic #lutheran

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"A world without trans people has never existed and never will"

Poster spotted in Olympia, WA

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I am not a christopagan (I mean, O Rama, O Vishnu might slip in sometimes as I was raised with Hinduism and Jesus equally) but I am queer - I chose the NRSV or the NRSVue (updated version) because it is well regarded for its accuracy by researchers. Some things it does different than other versions is to use gender nuetral terms when the translation from Hebrew would suggest to do that, because English translations historically used masculine as nuetral (man to mean person, etc) more than is the trend in Hebrew. (I don't know anything about Hebrew, by the way.)

Another thing it has going for it is the choice not to use antisemetic or homophobic phrasing when given other ways to translate a passage, two things it can do while still being considered to be more accurate than some other translations by researchers because verses that have in the past been translated in an explicitely homophobic way are often anachronisms, given that homosexuality is a recently invented word and identity. (If you ever read a verse from the bible that uses the word homosexuality, it is ahistorical.)

Lastly, and this is kind of bitchy of me, I like it because Evengelicals often avoid it. The reason they avoid it is because work has been done to ensure that Old Testament has been translated faithfully to the Hebrew version with the input of Jewish scholars. The historical tradition of bible translation is often that verses from the Old Testament that are taken by Christians to be signs prefiguring the life of Jesus have been translated with a bias towards the Christian interpretation and the NRSV avoids that.

I think using the Old Testament to point towards Jesus is a beautiful and poetic activity, kind of like found poetry, but its important to me to also understand how Jewish people would have and still do understand their books of wisdom.

The word that is sometimes translated as witch is translated as sorcerer or female sorcerer in the NRSV Bible.

- most of what I have described above, I learned from wikipedia and google.

I also have an English-Hebrew translation of the Jewish bible by the JSP (kind of as a curiosity because I am a nerd sorry) and an audiobook version of Robert Alter's English translation of the Hebrew bible which is known for being exceptionally poetic. For his version, he considers it important that the verse sounds beautiful in English and registers as poetry to the English ear, even if that changes some of the grammar.

What Bible versions do y'all Christian witches, Christopagans, and queer people recommend? I've mostly used the ESV and NASB bibles, as that's what I grew up with, but I'm trying to plan what bible I'd want to get when I get a chance to choose for myself, and I want to see if I can find a general consensus from the people in my minority groups, as those things are a special part of me, and I'd like to see if I can find one that has the least mistranslations and propaganda added from people who've searched/read them.

#queer christian

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I need a comic book series in which Jesus comes back as a teenage trans girl. It would be 95% slice of life, and 5% oh no, I am the son daughter of God, and I keep accidentally turning water into wine, which is bad because I can't legally drink alcohol yet.

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I am so upset. I was looking forward to wear red day Pentecost because I was going to engage in some mild gender fuckery for jesus by painting my nails red, but I just realized that I scheduled myself to be out of town on that Sunday.

#am i the only one who feels a spiritual obligation to show up looking more visibly queer in church than other places? *crickets* #queer christian #episcopalian

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catholic trauma is hearing "may the force be with you" and automatically answering "and also with you."

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last night my partner held a somber little passover seder to show me what it’s about and when they got to the part where they were supposed to open the door for elijah they paused, frowned, and said “oh. huh. there is a clown.” and I looked out. and sure enough. there was a clown.

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I want to preface this by saying that this is a horrible take, but I am disapointed that the Catholic Church has decided to go the anti trans route, not because of the affect this has on transgender people of faith (which is heartbreaking,) but because it closes the door on some fascinating avenues for #creativelegalism when, for existance, an ordained priest transitions, or someone transitions in a previously considered heterosexual marriage. I could see interesting situations where the ordination was maintained, but the marriage was nullified etc, with all sorts of fascinating arguements explaining the conclusion.

From a popcorn gallery position I find this kind of stuff fascinating and I am throwing tomatoes and hissing at the Catholic church for depriving me of my entertainment.

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you live in a house of god; praying on your knees; and wonder why he never saves you.

on being unloved by god

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Hey, happy Earth Day! Who wants to talk about climate change?

Yeah, okay, fair, I kinda figured the answer to that would be "ugh do we have to?" What if I told you I have good news though? Good news with caveats, but still good news.

What if I told you that since the Paris Agreement in 2015, we've avoided a whole degree celsius of global warming by 2100, or maybe more?

Current projections are 2.7C, which is way better than the 3-5C (with a median of 3.7C) we were expecting in 2015. It's not where we want to be - 1.5C - but it is big, noticeable progress!

And it's not like we either hit 1.5C and avoid all the big scary consequences or fail to hit 1.5C and get all of them - every tenth of a degree of warming we avoid is going to prevent more severe problems like extreme weather, sea level rise, etc.

This means that climate change mitigation efforts are having a noticeable impact! This means a dramatically better, safer future - and if we keep pushing, we could lower the amount of global warming we end up with even further. This is huge progress, and we need to celebrate it, even though the fight isn't over.

It's working. Keep going.

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