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Tbf Dionysus also has a lover who turned into a plant XD

greek mythology | cursed images | hermes, apollo & dionysus

#Ampelus anyone?

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Do you think Hermes is Zeus' closest son? I mean, he's always super loyal towards his father.

You know what, I think I might agree? Like, while Apollo certainly is Zeus’ favourite in general, his pride and joy, so to speak, that doesn’t preclude Hermes and Zeus being closer to each other. (They also have a smoother relationship, even with Apollo still being a/the favourite lol)

First of all, these two go on what is basically father-son bonding trips to test people’s committent to xenia; this is something we only see Zeus and Hermes do (otherwise Zeus goes alone, like in the Lykaon situation). Then there’s all the times Hermes is helping Zeus with various (non-official) situations, and I really don’t think those should be considered Zeus “dumping” any “unpleasant shit” on Hermes, and I think this can be tied into a paper I read recently, which talked about Zeus’ order in relation to Hermes and Apollo’s relationship as it develops in the Homeric Hymn to Hermes, and also about that potential closeness.

It was about how Apollo was representing one type of thinking/relating to the world and Hermes another, and the one in Hermes’ case (noos) is one Zeus uses a lot of, so they’re similar in that way? And Zeus DOES just laugh the whole situation in the hymn off and urges the two of them to work to get along instead of talking of guilt and potential punishments. Also like, the things he entrusts Hermes to help him with/acting in his stead isn’t just to solve shit like the Europa situation and his infidelities, but also in the Iliad, escorting Priam (even when, we note, Hermes took a stand on the Achaean side when the gods were given free reign).

On top of that, Hermes is Olympus’ and Zeus’ herald and messenger, and this isn’t just an “errand boy” thing. A herald was basically a proto diplomat; you don’t just have to relay messages and stuff, but do it in a way, if necessary, so that the message is relayed in a way the recipient might be more amenable to. Obviously in the myths/books these are usually just all retold verbatim, but in a real situation that isn’t how it works, and I bet there are times when Hermes does have to be clever and diplomatic about it, which undoubtedly both works with his personality/skill set, but also - this is Zeus trusting Hermes with things like this! Without oversight.

And, well, you’ve also got the Typhon business, where Hermes (alongside Pan) is usually the one to help Zeus with the sinews situation.

(As a side note it honestly is kind of annoying and bewildering to characterize Hermes as undervalued and dumped with unwanted shit he has to deal with instead of his father; he’s clearly very well trusted!)

So yeah! I agree. Hermes absolutely is the closest to Zeus. I hadn’t thought of this before, and I rather love how it works out, so thanks for the ask! :D

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You're literally a radfem your opinion doesn't matter 😁

Sexism in Tumblr Greek mythology fandom

Person: *reads about a Greek goddess/female character being problematic*

Person: well you KNOW WHAT? these women were written by men who were huge misogynists they treated women as seducers and second class citizens who needed no respect.

Person: so I’ll forgive her no matter what and defend her

Person: *proceeds to create an elaborate and exaggerated interpretation that sympathises with that goddess/female character and spreads it as if it’s a fact*

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Person: *reads about a Greek god/male character being problematic*

Person: oh wow what an asshole.

Person: He deserves no forgiveness or redemption.

Person: *proceeds to shit on them as if they weren’t written by the same misogynistic men who thought men didn’t need to respect women and were right in treating them as properties*

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THANK YOU

(also if you want a hero who did nothing wrong, Perseus is right there)

So I can't stop thinking about the version of the myth of Orion where his eyes were gouged out because he attempted to rape a princess and you know what? I call bullshit. Artemis wouldn't have associated with him if he been capable of rape—he wouldn't have gotten near her hunters and I know damn well that news would've spread of what he'd allegedly done.

My interpretation is that Orion was accepted into the hunt because he was a male victim, had no protections, and was framed for the crime committed against him. I refuse to believe that every last one of the male 'heroes' were all rapists at, at least, one point.

I'm just singling out Orion because there is no way he'd have been able to associate with Artemis if he was an aggressor against women of any kind.

#Orion deserved to die sorry not sorry #Seriously he tried to rape a princess and got a second chance #And screwed that second chance as well! By trying to rape fucking Artemis and one of her nymphs #Wtf dude

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So Hermes readily had a threesome with Apollo when they both liked the same lady, but with Ares he went to the extent of having a boxing match to avoid sharing with him, and I guess that's because he disliked Ares or liked Apollo too much (or both?) but it's funny that Ares lost to Hermes

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Hades! This isn’t from BOZ this is just my interpretation of our lil goth god :)

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Have a short bit from my next fic. Which is actually not about Hades and Hermes, but that’s what this excerpt is about; their first meeting.

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“Lord Hades?”

He almost jumped, completely having missed anyone’s approach, and furthermore almost snapped at the intruder on his thoughts. He suppressed the first urge into a slow, controlled turn, and the second urge into pressure in his jaw until he could speak and reveal nothing but dismissive flatness.

“What?”

Iris flinched a little, shifting on her feet and setting the faint gleam about her golden wings rippling around her at his tone, but just because he had to acknowledge her did not mean he had to be welcoming. He was busy. Unfortunately, Iris never came here unless there was reason, and if it was about an oath she did not need to come to him, but would rather go directly to Styx - which he knew she preferred. Alas for both of them, then, that it was clearly him she had some message for.

“There’s some unrest that’s closest to your realm, Father Ze—”

“What is that?”

Iris blinked, snapping her mouth closed as she ruffled her feathers, though there was no other proof of her annoyance at having been interrupted. She also wouldn’t voice such a thing.

“What is… what, Lord Hades?”

Frustrated and annoyed, Hades bent down and whipped a hand out, quick enough neither Iris nor his target had a chance to so much as flinch and held the child up by his loincloth.

“This.”

Of course he knew who he was, this annoying child, though he hadn’t met him yet before this, but he wouldn’t have expected to find the child here of all places. Hermes dangled from his hand quite happily, unflinching in the face of Hades’ dark expression.

“Hi, Uncle.” He giggled like this was all terribly amusing and a very good joke, and Hades looked from toddler nephew to divine messenger and narrowed his eyes. Iris, who’d been staring at Hermes with blank confusion, looked up and blanched at his expression.

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Homer’s The Iliad, illustrated by Alexander & Valery Traugot.

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Yesss 😭😭💘

Had this concept in my mind for a while now.

Tangled AU Apollo as Rapunzel and Hermes as Eugene ✨

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Concept: As winter approaches, Hermes, Artemis and Dionysus start using Apollo as their heater.

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i think we as a society need to bully Harpocrates more

look at this horrible little baby. he’s so ugly

roman egypt turn on your location i just want to talk

this picture called the registrar and revoked my archaeology degree

harpocrates is the god of secrets and silence. the secret is that i hate him. and he’ll be silent when i’m finished with him all right

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good eveningmorning, it is appreciating zeus and hera time :)

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Homeric Hymn to Hera (tr. Hugh G. Evelyn-White)

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Aesop, Helios and a fay dragon for @odiko-ptino

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Interesting!

Brief thought;

Hera’s aspect of fertility/procreation is controlled and regulated (marriage and children), it’s the very basic building block of assuring society, that you will have a future society.

Zeus’ aspect is rain, which certainly ensures agricultural fertility, and, if you add his youth being equated to the Cretan agricultural boy-consort, even more so in the same vein, but this is also uncontrolled. You can’t control rain. Zeus’ domains within society-building is law/justice and government, just as necessary for society as children and family/marriage but on another level.

Like, this doesn’t matter much in general, but from a story-building and -telling angle, you get an additional tension between them, because in some ways they’re both fertility deities but their aspects of that domain, are just expressed very, very differently.

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Apollo breaking gender rules

Niobe *mocking*: you’ve often dressed up in women’s dresses

Apollo: No

Apollo: I wear dresses. They’re not “women’s dresses”

Apollo: They’re my dresses. I buy them

Apollo: die mad bitch

#Louder for the people in the back!!! #I would also like to start a petition for @my-name-is-apollo to stop putting the best part in the tags

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Minoan Frescoes from the Palace of Knossos.