âsansa stark does not need a love interest/be paired off with anyone at the end of ASOIAF/GOT because thatâs not the point of her arc and she has her whole life ahead of herâ should not be confused with âbecause of sansaâs trauma/rape/abuse, she wonât ever be interested in love and its better for her to be alone.â
one of them is sending a dangerous message, the other is not.Â
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Her name is Jeyne Poole. Not âFake Aryaâ âFAryaâ or âFalse Aryaâ. Jeyne Poole. All the suffering and abuse sheâs gone through at the hands of Ramsay is hers. All the suffering sheâs endured and the arc in the North isnât Aryaâs. Itâs hers.
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i still maintain that we would feel a lot different about balon if grrm had decided to have ashaâs povs begin before balon died
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A series of three artworks I commissioned from Martina a year and a half ago depicting the progression of Catelyn Tully of Riverrun -> Lady Stark -> Mother Merciless, also known as the Hangwoman, also known as Lady Stoneheart.Â
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1. What happened to Tysha was awful but not his fault. 2. Shae did betray him because by selling him out to Cersei she got him on deathrow and he had to flee. 3. He was married to Sansa and of the time ASOIAF is set in it's normal to consummate marries you're just bitter he's married to your fave instead of her brother *vomit* 4. Sansa is going to end as Lady of the Rock because he direwolf is named Lady and it will be Joanna & Tywin come again. Imagine being so hateful towards a disabled man.
If you came to my inbox working on the assumption that an ex fssw would feel sorrier for a rapist who doesnât think of himself as one than the prostitutes he uses and the one he murdered because heâs a selfish prick who doesnât see them as people, then youâve got another thing coming. No thanks for this bag of dogshit you left on my doorstep in advance.
Tyrion is a villain. He was always a villain. Heâs hateful towards all women and in particular doesnât believe that prostitutes or even his wife(ves) are real people separate from what he projects onto them. Yes, I do think he was coerced and gaslit by his father during Tyshaâs rape but Tysha was always the victim in this scheme. Prostitute or not, she had no power in this, and yes, prostitutes can be sexually assaulted. The revelation that Tysha wasnât a prostitute shouldnât make the audience have the epiphany sheâd been raped (we know sheâd been assaulted violently when we/Tyrion believed sheâd been a prostitute); the revelation just emphasizes how low Tywin can sink. Tyrion still participated in the event and raped Tysha and spared her no compassion or thought to guilt before the revelation, bitterly reflecting how sheâd just âbeen a whoreâ (showing us he doesnât believe prostitutes can be raped), and after the revelation his own self pity compounds itself. Tyshaâs rape, to him, exists as an extension of his own pity and tragedy. He makes it all about him and yet claims he loves her. Where? Because he says it in text to himself? He misses that she loved him. Thatâs what he misses. Thatâs what he loves, the love and affection she gave him, not her as a person. He even refers to her as the wife he barely knew.
He murders Shae for âbetrayingâ him, but even though sheâs ârewardedâ a manse for her participation in the trial, sheâs lowborn and a prostitute. She likely had no choice but to participate; she has no power or agency and the Lannisters show little regard to everyone else; she wouldnât have been able to just walk away if she refused. Why does she owe him her safety and life in the face of people who would certainly have no compunction hurting her when he believed they would previously? She doesnât. She didnât âbetrayâ him by choosing her own safety and agency over someone who only paid for her to laugh at his jokes and have sex with him.Â
When he raped the âsunset girlâ he has the awareness to know she doesnât want to be there, doesnât want him, she doesnât speak his language, and he says she âlooks deadâ and âdoesnât even have the strength to hate himâ, and then he wants more wine immediately.Â
When he molested Sansa and instructed her to think of the Knight of Flowers, it wasnât for her benefit; he just wanted to make her rape easier on him after he acknowledged she was a child.
He knows heâs raped or molested these women, but he chooses to not categorize it or acknowledge it firmly even to himself because he doesnât want that to apply to him; in his perspective he wants love and so how dare these women refuse him after he was kind to them (whether or not they have a choice, their circumstances donât really matter to him). He still sees himself as a hero, or a good guy, A Nice Guy, and during his flight from KL, he admits to his darker actions as though everyone else pushed him to this, that this false accusation is just the straw that broke the camelâs back. He calls himself a monster as further self-pity and guilt, but he never thinks to change his ways, thinks on the ways heâs wronged people.
He shows moments of compassion towards Bran, and Jon, because theyâre boys and he identifies with them due to their circumstances. He doesnât do the same with women. He also shows shades of ruthlessness and cruelty similar to Tywin beyond his lack of regard for women.Â
Using wildfire to fight Blackwater was cruel; he burned down peopleâs homes and never told them why and hated them for despising him for this. And as weâve seen elsewhere fire is a cruel way to die. We see it in Davosâ perspective during the battle so we see just how cruel it is; weâre meant to empathize with them and condemn the use of wildfire.
His whole reason for seeking out Aegon VI and dany is to use them as hammers of vengeance against his family, and he spares no thought for the people he claimed he only wanted to protect (yet showed no real understanding of or empathy).Â
He isnât a hero. He isnât just a victim of circumstance or family; he chooses these things. He doesnât want to be just like his father, but he is and he likely subconsciously knows it, and hates when itâs made apparent.Â
So no. Sansa isnât the Lady of the Rock and she wonât be. Her direwolfâs bones are in Winterfell. They arenât Joanna and Tywin redux.
What I ship or who my faves are doesnât impact how I view him or feel about him. He feels entitled to women and love and is resentful when he isnât given it. Heâs sympathetic because of his personal circumstances and what he lives with/goes through in an ableist society but itâs not an excuse for what he does. Heâs a villain for what he does and chooses to do even if he wonât cop to the villainy even to himself; itâs that that makes him a villain.Â
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The anon that dismissed any inkling of Sansa's leadership potential, doesn't have any idea about how Soft Power works. Hard power will help you conquer but if you want to maintain your hold , you need to exercise soft power. Once the dragons(hard power)were dead, Targaryens encountered several rebellions & their power weakened. No offense to antis, but Sansa has shown to harness soft power more aptly than her siblings.Antis need to ask why was that Alyssane was given the moniker of'Good Queen'.
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I agree. This is the problem that cripples Jon at the Wall. He is visionary in his political decisions and he does decently well on an interpersonal level with people he likes, or where hierarchy guides him to be deferential, but he is needlessly confrontational in key situations with others when he is the authority figure. Donal Noye, Sam, Gilly... like Alys Karstark ten years ago he should have charmed and didn't know how. They stopped trusting him. Stabbing ensues.
Sansa is the opposite. She is incredibly proactive in creating a social event that serves multiple positive functions in theory: bolster Sweetrobin's spirit, bring together representatives of the entire Vale to meet and get to know them and judge their character, have a bonding event they can all mutually refer to in memory like the other tourneys, give and outlet to bored knights hungry for fighting, meet her intended and charm him into accepting the betrothal... what cripples Sansa is her limited understanding of the harsher conditions around her bubble of privilege because Littlefinger keeps her deliberately sheltered. (Just like Ned, but with more sinister purpose and while making her think the opposite.) The waste of food, the mountain clans, the succession in the Vale, it's all on her periphery even though these are the real political issues.Â
Mind, Sansa is NOT in a position of actual power and she has not been given access to political long-term planning like Jon and Robb had been by her age (Ned's dream of spring). Even as a bastard, being a boy gave Jon this kind of access where the girls were excluded. Imagine Jon and Sansa combining their talents and learning from each other. Sansa's social creativity applied to the bigger picture. Jon's strategic genius coated in confident, inclusive charm. They have much to learn from each other.Â
Arya creates her own access by being "underfoot" and listening to Ned exercise soft power just talking to his staff at his table, but it's more a way of spending time with her father and absorbing his mode of learning than the actual information. She lacks the framework of background information (sigils, house relationship, history) to form a political picture, it is all interpersonal. Her leadership style is not political, it's goal-oriented, she is a leader of missions, and an explorer.
Bran is dutiful and generous. Even in a situation of accute grief and distress after being paralyzed and missing his family, he does a pretty good job as Lord of Winterfell (for his age). He rises beyond his own emotions, he recognizes the nature of his position, doesn't overestimate his personal appeal while understanding the importance of courtesy and he is very very thoughtful, while easily accepting counsel and assistance. At age eight. King material, personality-wise.Â
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someone requested Elia ages ago,Â
hereâs a quick doodle of her
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âAlready the snowfall lay thick upon the garden below [âŚ] The sight took Sansa back to cold nights long ago, in the long summer of her childhood. She had seen snow the day sheâd left Winterfell.â -A Storm of Swords pt 2, page 525.
This was such a sweet scene with Sansa (or Alayne), here remembering the snow when she was back with her family and playing with her siblings, and how she worked so hard on making the castle of Winterfell in the snow. (The Littlefinger had to ruin the moment) Iâm just loving this character more and more.Â
Except the fact that she didnât turn up as my vision of Sansa, Iâm pretty happy with how this turned out.
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I did a thing? Sansa and Lady. I liked the colors.
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The Lannister on the Rock at the end of the series should be Tysha.
No Tyrion, no other Lannisters, just her.
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I still donât get people who said âit doesnât make sense that Sansa ended up ruling the northâ Like, the line of succession was Robb- Bran- Rickon- Sansa- Arya. Jon wasnât Ned Starkâs trueborn son. Why did they think someone else was going to rule?
Because they donât understand the point of Sansa or the whole ass book series so they see a million special snowflakes in the world and see that Sansa is a relatively normal person and are therefore confused as to why the normcore Stark winds up as queen in the North. Honestly the fact that sheâs in the line of succession is explanation enough, but aside from that, the reality is that she is actually the most qualified person left to do it. Rickon and Arya likely wonât want to lead or have any leadership skills, and Robb and Jon both got killed by the people they were supposed to be leading which would indicate that they probably wouldnât be great kings in the long term.Â
People donât get Sansaâs reign because nearly every other character who is in contention for a throne at this point has something about them that screams âchosen oneâ while Sansa has nothing about her that says âchosen one,â which is the entire point of it to begin with. GRRM loves to play with the idea of chosen ones and he loves to subvert it even more, itâs much like the way that he loves to play with prophecy, itâs never going to be clear who the real chosen one is and the reality is likely that no one is supposed to be the chosen one, but what matters is what people believe, both within the universe and outside of it. If youâre falling into the trap of believing that someone who is extraordinary and has exceptional powers is somehow destined to rule the world, then youâre falling into the exact same trap that has kept this world in chaos for centuries. Sidestepping that trap is a huge reason why Sansa being queen makes sense, because sheâs not exceptional, sheâs just good at it. But thatâs also why so many people are baffled by it, because theyâre missing the point that many of these characters who seem to follow the classic super special snowflake with the exceptional destiny story arc are actually terrible leaders and that their exceptional traits are only exactly what they are, theyâre not something that makes them ordained by the gods as someone who is meant to rule and be superior to all others.Â
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What kind of absolute batshit crazy fantasy land do these people live in?
Since when is Sansa an adult? Since when is she consenting to anything having to do with him? Was in when he forced her down on her bed and held a knife to her throat? You know when she thought âplease donât kill meâ over and over to herself? Sounds super consenting and romantic, hm?
And even if one were to ship them with Sansa aged up and the hound ârehabilitatedâ, that still means that they saw this dynamic and thought to themselves âhey I know what would be a great prize for this horrid man, the child he terrorized!â
It melts my brain, it truly does.
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Game of Thrones: Jon Snow cannot lie. Jon is like Ned. Heâs too honourable to lie!! Why couldnât you lie to Cersei Jon???
Actual Jon Snow: Fools the Freefolk for an entire book and keeps his cover, even betrays his lover in the process. Will kill any power hungry warlord who dares to threaten his family.
Certain fanboys: Jon Snow would never!!!
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Sansasource is pleased to announce that it will be hosting the second Sapphic Sansa Fest. Itâs a 3 day-long celebration of all things queer and Sansa just over a month from now, from November 13th to November 15th. We have themes as suggestions/prompts and you can pick any for any day. We encourage ALL wlw Sansa ships and are open to Sansa as an individual/character and non-ship specific sapphic content. The goal is to have fun, so we hope you join us participating in whatever way you choose, be it fanart, fanfiction, meta, fanmixes,graphics, gifs- wichever is to your liking. We will be tracking the tag #sapphicsansafest and as always #sansasource.
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