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average sibling behavior

#dungeon meshi #yeah that's abt on par for the course

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dungeon meshi but they try to solve problems the dnd way (marcille is shooting her shot)

#dungeon meshi #marcille is going full bard i love that for her

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only appropriate reaction

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elf ears

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Come watch dungeon meshi we have a (seemingly) typical white autistic man who doesn't understand social norms, an autistic man of colour who overcompensates for social deficits by being too good at social norms (while still struggling socially), and we even have the "grew up autistic but also Asian so I have a very good understanding of cultural and social norms but I still struggle socially" variety of autistic man.

#ngl the bit abt signs did make me think of masking lol #'everyone told me these are the socially accepted signs so pick up on them damn it!!!' is quite relatable #dungeon meshi

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The fistfight between Shuro and Laios is so fucking cathartic to me. Laios was not picking up on social cues for so long and when that’s revealed he doesn’t do what so many of us have to and shrink away and apologize he gets MAD.

He punches Shuro in the face and says you should have been more fucking clear, and I genuinely find that so empowering.

#sorry shuro but that fight was pure wish fulfillment for me #dungeon meshi

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I know there’s a lot of people talking about the culture conflict between Toshiro and Laios, but I think it’s important to acknowledge the class conflict between them too. Mayor’s child or not, Laios is still from the boonies, while Toshiro is waited on hand and foot by a flock of women his family employs to serve his needs. This has 100% stifled Toshiro’s ability to communicate with others, to the point where acknowledging his retainers and thanking them for their efforts is shown as a huge point of growth.

Meanwhile, Laios’s bumbling nature towards Toshiro’s boundaries is very much informed by his lack of knowledge of other people and places. He knows how much it hurt him to see his sister rejected by people whose insular attitudes made her powers frightening to them, so he tries to express overtures of friendship towards Toshiro by being so interested in him that it comes off as frightening instead. While he means well, his lack of knowledge on how to interact with people who are different from him puts Toshiro in a weird spot, and this lack of knowledge isn’t just the autism — it’s where he was born and raised. And it’s something real kids from rural areas go through when they enter more urban spaces. The sorts of social manners that are appropriate there aren’t appropriate elsewhere, and they get seen as… well. Inelegant. Pushy.

If Laios had gotten Hien’s name wrong, she would have decked him. But because it was Toshiro, whose upbringing didn’t give him any conflict resolution skills (because he’s around people who have to bend to his needs*) he doesn’t know how to sort things out with Laios, and grows to resent him. It’s not just the culture, it’s the place he occupies class-wise.

That’s part of why I love Toshiro’s arc — if this was just a culture conflict where Laios commits microagressions against him, as I’ve mostly seen it put, him ultimately learning a lesson would be pretty weird. But it’s not. His upbringing as a noble lord’s son in a BONKERS family has given him certain issues… and Laios helps him confront that, so he can live without regrets.

(*please note, this is a massive oversimplification of what the hell is going on with Toshiro Nakamoto. i just didn't want to write a book.)

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dunmeshi orc baby i would die for you

#dungeon meshi #omg she's even cuter in the manga

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No but dungeon meshi also speaks to how, when you’re autistic, you can be kind and genuine everywhere you go and you can try so hard all the time and people are still going to find you suspicious, creepy, and annoying. And there’s nothing you can do about it. Forever.

I see people talk in a funny/lighthearted way about the way other characters see Laios a lot, and i don’t think that’s a bad thing at all; in the context of the manga, it is funny. But damn, it also resonates.

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images taken moments before disaster

#dungeon meshi #meanwhile laios in the background having fully realised what's happening and very excited to see it

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what about blorbhov from my complicated russian novel though

#long post cw

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lmaoo

#ik it was the prev dev team but i knew it was going to hell when they stealth cut the nonbinary gender choice #it's so fucking dodgy to get all the acclaim in the press for announcing it then go on an unrelated podcast to say you've cut it #bc it's too complicated for localisation (meanwhile bg3) #welp that's a shame #vtmb

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kinda dumb, but all the mini-fallout revival courtesy of the tv series has really made me miss @grandenchanterfiona. their fallout posts were some of my absolute favourites, especially when they were talking abt judaism in the fallout universe. or just when they talked abt judaism in general. or even dragon age, as much as i was already fading out of that fandom at the time. they really were a great writer, and they had a wonderful sense of humour.

it's just surreal that they've been gone nearly six years. may their memory be a blessing.

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I heard reference to something about how all anime are required to have good looking cabbage because of That One Time. So simply looking up "anime cabbage" I found the source.

Some harem anime way back in the day had an episode where the characters cooked, and they animated cabbage so terribly like this it left a bad mark on the anime community forever. Apparently this is part of the reason why all food usually looks good in anime, even moreso than the regular show sometimes. With cabbage being especially well drawn.

A complaint, apparently in a paper.

The first show when released internationally was reanimated in this part.

And high quality or low quality cabbage is sometimes referenced.

I learned of this because the most recent Hologra episode has noel eating cabbage, tearing apart a fine quality cabbage into two low poly halves.

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I was talking to my partner tonight about how terrible DSC is lab safety wise amd it was really funny.

“No eye washing stations, no signage indicating what type of lab it is, no fire alarms, no emergency alarms, only one fire extinguisher-“

“Well, there are more, but they’re right next to the live nuclear cores.”

And then she gave me the most horrified look like I was Clovis Bray and had built the space station myself.

#destiny

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"Shuro loves Falin for the same reasons he hates Laios" Completely and utterly wrong, could not be further off base.

I get the impression a lot of people watching Dungeon Meshi as it airs, or are a bit removed from its original manga run, have forgotten that Laios and Falin being monster freaks wasn't actually apparent until the events of the story. The only person that knew Falin loved monsters as much as Laios was Marcille because they were best friends at school.

Once Laios and Falin were in an adventuring party together, they both had public facing personas because they had both learned through their separate upbringings that being super interested in monsters and dungeons wasn't normal. Laios is the blunt but well meaning, outspoken and opinionated guy we all know, but Falin was way more withdrawn and soft-spoken, non-confrontational, easy to get along with. Everyone that interacted with Falin would say she's a sweet, gentle girl that everyone likes. Because she was, frankly, kind of a doormat.

The whole thing with Toshiro's infatuation with Falin is he doesn't actually know her. She is outwardly very polite and reserved, and that appeals to Toshiro because it meshes with his cultural sensibilities and how he was taught people are supposed to behave. Then he sees her marveling at a caterpillar in a private moment and decides on the spot that she's the ideal woman and proposes without actually talking to or getting to know her.

And his lack of understanding of Falin as a person is brought to the forefront in every action he takes after she gets eaten. He leaves the party and makes no attempt to contact the two people that Falin loves the most. Whether it's a matter of him just not knowing how much Falin cares about her brother and Marcille, or actively avoiding Laios to rescue Falin himself, he's demonstrating that he doesn't actually know what's important to her or understand how she feels.

Then when he meets Laios's party on the lower floors and they go over what happened, it's made even more blatant that Toshiro's affection is shallow and half-baked. He came into the dungeon a week too late and neglected his health the whole way down, so he was in no state to actually try and save Falin when he got there. When Laios talks about eating monsters, something Falin was thrilled about, Toshiro is disgusted. He threatens to kill Laios and turn Marcille in, which would never fly with Falin. His anger at the use of black magic is entirely based in his selfish idea of Falin being tainted and blaming Laios and Marcille for "ruining" his attempt to rescue her, as Kabru points out that Toshiro would have done the exact same thing in their shoes and that he's being a hypocrite. To say nothing of how he'd rather kill Falin after she's been transformed and "put her to rest" rather than put any effort into saving her, because that would require further involvement from Laios and Marcille and methods that Toshiro doesn't approve of.

And there's the fight he has with Laios, and Toshiro's subsequent confession that he had hoped to just take Falin home with him. He at no point gives consideration to what Falin feels or what she might want, only what he has decided about her based on the most surface level observation. Just like how his problem with Laios arises from his refusal to just talk to him about his boundaries, he has no actual connection with the woman he claims to love because he just wouldn't actually talk to her.

Like it's not a coincidence that every time his attraction to Falin is brought up, another character goes "yeah he's being weird about it".

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okay okay okay one more dungeon meshi thought

I keep seeing people saying Falin is "better at social cues" than Laios. Y'all she's just quiet. 😭 She just keeps her mouth shut. 😭😭 Girl was proposed to, said "let me think about it," and then did not even tell her own brother. She doesn't know what's going on either she's just quieter about it!!! 😭😭😭

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