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gridcheck02 · 3 days
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I never realized how mad Logan sounded during q1 of qualifying during the Monaco GP. He was mad mad and I don’t blame him…
Ps thanks to tik tok for showing me this vid I appreciate it really 😔
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gridcheck02 · 3 days
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Am I wrong or hasn’t it been said by the team that Logan has had to start matching or be in about the same pace as Alex during races? Because someone over one X just told me that I was making that fact up and no one from the Williams team has ever mentioned that Logan needs to start matching or being on pace with Alex in races.
Now this x user has me questioning my knowledge. So can someone confirm or deny this while I go research.
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gridcheck02 · 3 days
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I really loved this post about Logan and I hope everyone takes a little time to read it…
every day i learn something new about logan sargeant and his racing career, not just about his performance in f1 but in f2 and previous series, too. and every day i end up so sad because he genuinely has so so much potential and can do so much but he keeps being give a poor hand of cards. this guy out qualified his teammate in f2 TEN TO FOUR. and who was his teammate?? liam lawson. liam joined redbull’s driver academy in february of 2019 while logan only got to join an f1 team’s driver academy in october of 2021. that team was williams. which, as we know, hasn't exactly been the best performing team in recent years. oscar piastri got to join an f1 team’s driver academy in january of 2020 (the renault sport academy, later rebranded as the alpine academy). liam and oscar both got the opportunity to do f1 tests for YEARS prior to their f1 debuts in 2023. liam had 4 and a half years of experience in f1 cars before 2023. oscar had 3 years of experience in f1 cars before 2023. even if it was just testing and practice sessions, it's still something.
what did logan get? one measly fp2 session, post-season testing, and then jumped right in to pre-season testing in 2023. he already had a seat in williams then, so with the experience from before the pre-season testing in 2023 he got to do maybe 800km of testing in an f1 car. the others — in this case i mean oscar, liam, and heck even nyck de vris — had opportunities to drive f1 cars and gain experience for YEARS before logan. if you look at nyck de vris: he got signed to the mclaren young driver programme in 2010. he joined the audi sport racing academy in 2016.  granted, he left the mclaren programme in before the 2019 season and left audi after the 2019 season, too. but he then went to mercedes as a reserve driver and tester for 2020 and afterwards. this means he got just about a DECADE AND A HALF of teams putting their time and energy into training him to join f1.
logan got a year. one. single. fucking year. that is entirely incomparable to the other rookies from 2023, who had so much more experience before hand. and yet logan was jumped into f1 and the expectations were so high for a guy who hasn't had the chance to train and learn and gain experience.
and yet when we look at the 2022 f2 season, logan sargeant, a rookie, was 1 point off from his teammate —the one and only liam lawson — scoring p4 in the championship. he outqualified his teammate 10 to 4. he was the first american to win an f2 race (that is, of course, following the rebrand from gp2 to f2, but regardless, that’s still an important thing to note and an achievement of his that should be celebrated).
logan sargeant has so much potential and if only williams would show him a little more faith unlike what they’ve been doing, if only they’d give him the same upgrades as alex, if only they wouldn’t force him to drive a car 15kg overweight from that of his teammate’s car, if only they wouldn’t force him to use outdated rear and front wings from the season prior. then perhaps he would have a chance to show what he can do. perhaps if he wasn’t stuck in a team with a crap car who have shown zero faith (which has been vehemently obvious since the circus in australia) in him and made him absolutely miserable, a shell of himself — which you can clearly see in recent interviews and photos of him — then maybe he’d be able to show how good he really is. and maybe if williams hadn’t been so adamant about taking him out of f2 so quickly and let him develop for one more year, we’d be seeing headlines that say “logan sargeant, first american f1 driver on the podium since michael andretti in 1993.” and perhaps we could even see him winning races.
no matter what someone says about his current f1 performances — though most base that solely off of where he ends up on the grid rather than looking at his actual driving and seeing how good he is as a driver considering the crap circumstances he’s in — logan sargeant is a better driver than what everyone says. he is trying so insanely hard to get a car that is miles off from the rest of the field to place as high as humanly possible. no one can say that if you put another driver in that car that logan is driving they'd be doing better than he is now. the fact is, they wouldn't be. he's been given an absolute tractor and is expected to score points when that car isn't built for getting in the points. and yet logan managed to get p10 in the miami sprint race — which should be recognized and commended. because he was in an awful car and he absolutely shined that day. that was just the start of showing what he could do. but he hasn't been given the same resources as alex, those being the upgrades, so what more can he do compared to what he's doing now?
and i am actually sitting here crying as i type this because this is a driver who is giving it his all even when the entire world is against him, even when his entire TEAM is against him, and he is persevering to the best of his abilities. and i know exactly what it’s like to sit here, wanting to reach for your dreams and show everyone how good you are, but to have only your closest friends and family on your side, rooting for you. what it’s like to look everywhere around you and see everyone calling you crap and saying you should quit and that you aren’t and never will be good enough. to look around and see your closest friends and family cheering for you, yet feeling like crap because you aren't doing as well as you would want, feeling inferior to everyone around you.
news flash: logan sargeant is and will always be good enough. he just needs the opportunity to show it, and williams is ruining that for him.
and yes, i will defend him with my life. people who try to say otherwise can try to do the same hours — the WEEKS — worth of research that i’ve done about logan and his career because he IS a good driver and HE DESERVES BETTER.
any hate comments towards logan will be deleted, because i have neither the time nor the energy to deal with that and argue with logan haters. i've said all of what i know and can remember about him and his career above, and will add what i can as time goes on and i remember something else or learn something new. if you have the time to hate on logan, you have the time to do your research and examine the fact that he has the potential to do well, but is not in a position for that because of the abhorrent circumstances he is currently in.
thank you for coming to my ted talk.
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gridcheck02 · 3 days
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If Carlos sainz get confirmed for Williams in the next few Grand Prixs for the 2025 season, all I can say did Williams ever give Logan a fair chance this season to prove himself for next season. All there words about giving him a chance to prove himself and that he has time would absolutely go out the window and it means they never really gave him a chance to prove anything this season because he has had so many issues out of his control.
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gridcheck02 · 4 days
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You know what I 110% believe him, that when both cars are that same spec we can actually see what Logan can do, and see him start to fight for points, because if you look at race pace and qualifying times he is actually very close in pace to Alex who has the upgrades, while Logan is carrying around a 15kg heavier car and a fixed up chassis, oh and let’s not forget this past Grand Prix he had a 2023 rear wing specification, just to summon up some of the disadvantages, Logan has had.
Also the replies to this tweet over on X were something else, because why hate on him when all he was saying he believes points are possible when he gets equal machinery to his teammate.
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gridcheck02 · 4 days
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I noticed one thing from this Logan isn’t even in top 5, and yet you notice how some like to push the narrative that Logan dose the most damage in the Williams team this season when in reality that been Alex this year.
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gridcheck02 · 6 days
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Let me get this straight, so willams wants Logan to start doing better in qualifying, get closer to Albon in race pace, which he has closed the gap in that aspect, but won’t give him any updates and makes him run last year rear wing specification?
What do they really want from him, if there not willing to help him and aren’t willing to give him any upgrades or current season parts because of a shortage, and they focus all there efforts into Albon.
a huge question I have for this team is how can you expect Logan to logically do better if at every step of the way they hinder him one way or the other.
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gridcheck02 · 7 days
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After watching this race I can’t help but think, Williams need to get it together when it comes to Logan, his strategy was a disaster this race and they don’t ever listen to him about his tires, and he still dosent have any upgrades like Alex’s has, so no matter how well he dose there seem to be something out of his control holding him back. But nonetheless despite all these set backs I think logan drove as well as he could have today and even did an overtake in a circuit that is hard to do one at.
So hopefully at the Canadian Grand Prix the Williams team will have both car back at equal footing with upgrades and have the strategy together.
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gridcheck02 · 7 days
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Just saw the after qualifying interviews and Logan looks so unhappy, Williams needs to give him the upgrades soon to put him on equal footing, and I honestly want to see what he can do when he dose have them.
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gridcheck02 · 9 days
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I mean…I’m sure the engineers know more than the fans do with how Logan is driving. Yes the car is an absolute shitbox but they can see the data and they have all the film to see where he isn’t measuring up. Also they need money and future sponsors and I’m sure Bottas will help bring that more than Logan would. Bottas also has a lot of skill and experience which will help everyone at Williams. It’s a smart move for the team. It definitely sucks for Logan, but Williams or any team for that matter does not have the time to wait it out especially if they get pressure from their current shareholders and sponsors.
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What an intriguing take, I definitely agree that the engineers know a lot more data then what we as fans are seeing of Logan, I don’t dispute that. But the thing of Bottas possibly bring more sponsorship money to the table I question a bit because I thought Logan brings in a really good chuck of sponsors himself, as for skill and experience of course Bottas would have a lot more experience and skill than someone who is only just 2 years into f1, which for a team like Williams could be a good thing as much as I hate to admit that because I am holding out hope for Logan this season. But I also think it is important to let drivers take a few years to get to grips if they need to and I do think it is sad that current teams can’t do that anymore because of certain pressure being placed on them behind the scenes..
But in real honesty who knows who going to be getting that second Williams seat because now the new rumor is sainz is in talks with them about a contract for 2025. So in reality there seems to be a new driver in talks with this team every week it seems.
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gridcheck02 · 12 days
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I’m a bit confused, so theyre not going to be giving Logan any updates until they build up a stock of extra parts?? Did I understand that correctly or did i miss understand what JV was saying in the volwes verdict they just put out???
Someone please clarify this for me because I’m confused..
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gridcheck02 · 14 days
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Seeing the instagram comments defending Logan is a refreshing change for once…
it colored me surprised when I opened the comments on the race results post on the Williams account seeing people saying that the car is just awful and and it not the driver’s fault.
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gridcheck02 · 15 days
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I don’t understand Williams not fighting that track limits violation and trying to reinstate his p17 because when I was watching his onboards it looked like a clean lap. So I truly do not understand this one..
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gridcheck02 · 16 days
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Found the sky sports vid of vowels talking about Logan and the future Williams seat..
Now this may just be me because I am very frustrated with this team, but I felt the comments about Logan were very condescending.
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gridcheck02 · 16 days
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Can someone please tell me what was said on sky sports about Logan as I don’t have that opinion to watch f1 there.
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gridcheck02 · 17 days
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It funny to me that journalist were like Logan is the issue this season when in reality it had been the car all along….
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gridcheck02 · 17 days
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Can we go one week when Logan doesn’t get screwed over…. Just one, is that to much to ask…
I guess not because this weekend he doesn’t get the upgrades brought by Williams only Alex’s dose…
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