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griancraft · 2 months

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Ok as per my last post. This is Long and very much about my feelings so uh don’t read it if you don’t want to. Also I’m aware I sound genujneky crazy for half of this I’m just really really mentally ill in ways I don’t talk about here at all and now I am sharing them and it’s. A little scary but oh well. The system stuff is the stuff I’m most concerned about right now to be honest bc it effects my day to day and if anyone has any kind words or thoughts on what to do I’ll be happy to listen

Please read my previous post if you’re mad /gen I don’t think I say anything bad here but I have really bad morality ocd so like uhm I am scared to post this!!! Prev post

Also I’m very sorry that the prose is terrible to read and my spelling is shit I have dyspraxia which is a coordination thing and it’s worse rn

The maybe I was boring album came on yesterday while I was cleaning and I had to stop what I was doing and turn it off halfway through because I just couldn’t stop hearing an admission. I wasn’t even sad I was just. So done with it. I still am just kinda like. God I hope Shelby is doing ok with all this being public now. I’m glad she was able to heal like she said and I’m glad she made the video dude.

I almost got his lyrics tattooed if that’s testament to how much I loved his early music. It’s not connecting in my brain that this music that’s been apart of my life for like 4 years and helped me through so much was made by an abuser.

But like, in retrospect you can see it. I can’t bear to delete ycgma off my mp3 player bc I related to his songs so much as an abused lonely teenager but I also can’t bare to listen to it. I learned the fall on my guitar as my final exam and I used to repeat his lyrics to myself to cope with abuse and I wish I could still love these songs. I dressed like his dsmp character bc I thought it made me look cool. Which is lame as fuck to admit now lol

Originally I was planning on pirating them and I like, can’t especially after that manipulative ass statement. How much was an act? I don’t know. I don’t know if I’m a bad person because I still kinda do want to listen to that music again. I still want to feel that safe but I know I won’t feel that way anymore.

with dsmp stuff I think I’m going to be still able to look back fondly on it generally and I don’t think I’ll ever stop. The community was what made it and the community is what I loved, and i still do. I don’t think I’m going to reblog art of him specifically but if he’s in it I might. Idk. My policy on dream fanart is if he’s not alone in the art and it’s dsmp or mcc related I reblog so I guess I’ll continue that here. Im sorry if that sounds callous I just. Am not prepared to talk about this so I’m going back and forth

And like. We also have a wilbur factive/fictive and we have for years now and nobody in our system knows how to feel about that. He formed to fill the role of a big brother (I was being heavily emotionally neglected at that point and needed someone to be there for me) and protector from my parents abuse. Obviously, he is entirely separate from his source now bc alters change a lot for me but how we picture him is still wilbur. he’s literally just some guy now but grappling with that connection is fucked up dude it’s weird. He’ll probably further distance himself but it still fucking sucks and I don’t know how to communicate the cognitive dissonance we had to push through bc our brain struggled at first to make sense of how this person who we liked so much that he became the template for a Protector to shield us from the emotional neglect and abuse, essentially, is a terrible person. I’m sorry I know people who aren’t systems, and some who are ngl, will find this fuckibg nuts and I get that but we’re a very very internal person like I just. Kinda am with us as a system a lot and nobody else. It feels like my safe space that I’ve created in my head has been marred. Also. uhm. Our alters speak in distinct voices so it’s bad bad for me rn and we are trying to fix it. I know I know fictives and factives arenttheir source but that doesn’t change that it makes me feel gross. I’m rambling rn I’m sorry. Support Shelby.

#tw abuse #discourse #vent

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firesnap · 2 years

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I am blatantly stealing from Mia Geoguessbur and no one can stop me.

S Tier -

You'll Understand When You're Older Listen, I don't know why this song gets so little love, but it's a travesty. Lyrically, it's even better storytelling than Sex Sells. The wistful sadness in some of the lines? The lines that could be angry if they were read just a little different? The story and the play on words used throughout? It's Sex Sells but written with a little more purpose and and clarity. Also, it is without debate, the best vocal track Lovejoy has recorded. Wilbur isn't too far back in the mix, he isn't forcing his voice out of his natural range too much, there's no cracks and a smoothness to the vocals that you don't get on other tracks. I could listen to the guitars in the background all day.

Sex Sells - Everyone's favorite child. First time we saw Wilbur really pulling out the vignette style lyric and shocking in the complexity and range of vocals and lines throughout the song. Absolute stand out on the EP it's on and one of the tracks Lovejoy, as a band, seem to gel the most.

A Tier (This Song Owns My Heart) -

Model Buses - Wilbur's best political writing on Pebble Brains was the more subtle stuff. The Fall was like hitting someone with a hammer and Model Buses was like a slap in the face hidden behind a smile. The musical break in Model Buses is the best of the "jingle melodies" Wilbur's ever written.

Oh Yeah, You Gonna Cry? - Another song people seem to sleep on. The lyrics are fucking great. They're so clever and Wilbur sings them with a confidence we've literally never heard him try out in a song before now. One of the best choruses Lovejoy has done.

Saline Solution - Good lyrics, most melodic and polished of all the YCGMA songs.

Your Sister Was Right - Best vocal performance on YCGMA.

B Tier (I Love This Song A Lot) -

Concrete - First listen of this song I was a little indifferent because I think the vocal performance on the chorus is a little weak. Lyrics and energy really elevated it for me. It's also my partner's favorite Wilbur Soot song and I have to give it points for that alone. It's one of the tightest, production wise, of all the Lovejoy tracks.

Your New Boyfriend - Wilbur's best comedy song period. Do I think Soft Boy will sound more polished and have stronger vocalsif it's ever released? Yes. YNB definitely has a home recorded vibe, but I still think, even including Soft Boy, YNB will be the most popular and best received of all of Wilbur's comedy songs. The memorable hook, the harmonies and retro pop feel with darkly funny lines are all a mix of magic that would be hard to replicate.

Perfume - It's good. It grew on me. The first time I heard the line about the policeman ex-boyfriend I cackled. The music is different than a lot of Pebble Brain but in all the right ways. It has the vibe while pushing them into trying some new things.

La Jolla - This song stirs a longing in my chest for some place I've never been. It's delicate and hushed in a very effective way.

Maybe I Was Boring - I will admit I'm ranking this high because it's one of my favorite songs for Wilbur to sing live on stream. It's a song begging to be live and while the recorded version definitely needs more polishing, the lyrics are very folky and interesting.

Cornado (Demo) - Including this specifically so I can say WILBUR THIS SONG FUCKING SLAPS THE ISSUE IS YOUR VOCAL. Go rerecord your "wet" sounding vocals when you don't have a fever and I swear it could be near S tier

Since I Saw Vienna - Nostalgia for traveling can make a song hit harder.

B-/C+ Tier (I Love This Song) -

It's All Futile! It's All Pointless! (Lovejoy Version) - The Lovejoy version has the addition of the "It's okay, anything to make me feel less numb" and some tightening of the lyrics that really put it above the original. Barely. It fits as a conclusion to Pebble Brain, but it's a bit too "big" in its arrangement and some of the song gets lost in the mix.

It's All Futile! It's All Pointless! (Wilbur Version) - You can tell this version is from a different place in Wilbur's life. The quieter arrangement is better for a song with so many lyrics, but the Lovejoy one trimmed the fat from the choruses and made a lot of positive changes. Let's be real though, if the YCGMA Anniversary acoustic version of the Lovejoy one was an "official" release, it would beat both released versions and be likely on the A-tier.

Internet Ruined Me - Shows more growth and sense of musicality than E-Girl, still has some funny lines, but doesn't hold a candle to YNB.

Taunt - It's short, like a smack in the face, but has an energy to it that is hard to resist. One of the best choruses.

Losing Face - Some of the live versions are better and showcase the potential of the song. I like the emotion in Wilbur's vocals.

C/C- Tier (I Like This Song But There Are Complaints)

Jubilee Line - This song is so overrated on YCGMA. It's good. It's a good song, but like, it kinda builds and goes nowhere? It's lyrics are bleak but not emotive.

The Fall - I've written essays on this. Simps. All of you.

Knee Deep at ATP - A serviceable cover that doesn't really add anything new to the conversation.

One Day - The horns on One Day are the worst use of horns Lovejoy has done. It's okay to use fake horns, but not when they sound fake.

D Tier (This Song Is Okay)

I'm In Love With An E-Girl - Funny. It's a funny song. The end monologue is a bit more cringe than funny.

Cause for Concern - Real big issues with the production quality. Feels too long and and like it's dragging halfway through the song. Too repetitive.

White Wine In A Weatherspoon - It's forgettable. There are some sparks now and then of something, but it never takes off.

I'm Very Smart - Very 2010's internet comedy song in a /neg way. However, had some hints of some of Wilbur's ability to drop brutal sad moments in the middle of trying to be funny.

F Tier (Nope) -

Good Night - I barely remember this song.

I'm Sorry Boris - Muffled quality. Barely memorable.

For Memories - Cringe wistful white boy music.

Karen Please - Unhinged Bo Burnham knockoff.

Nice Guy Ballad - See above, but worse!

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snailsnfriends · 2 years

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what do you think about wilbur's music? <- project opinions thing

hi stella!! oooo his music love his music

incel trilogy: maybe this is an unpopular opinion, maybe it isn't, but I am just not a big fan of this one. I feel that a lot of the lyrics are too on the nose. though the character is fun, I think it lacked polish and some of the "subtlety" that comes from guys who are actually Like That. by subtlety I mean the more manipulative, "quiet" ways that guys like this get away with their poor behavior. this is something that the e girl trilogy has that this one lacks.

maybe I was boring: as rough as it is this is probably my favorite music project of his. maybe I was boring is so fun, for memories is sweet and soft, white whine in a wetherspoons feels young and restless, and it's all futile it's all pointless has always been a favorite of mine. I love the imagery in this song specifically. "let you infest my brain wrap your arms around my cortex dig you in and let you drain" UGH it's just so good and violent and angry I love it.

ycgma: fucking wonderful. there is not a bad song on this album. I really like how raw this one sounds. it's usually just him and his guitar and I eat that shit up. it's the perfect rainy day album. it has a good mix of fast and slower songs, and I hold it close to my heart.

e girl trilogy: oh boy this one! I think a lot of guys easily mischaracterize what a Shitty Guy really is because they're really unaware and not very observant of the behavior of other men. it's very easy to dismiss incels as smelly weirdos and nothing more, but wilbur doesn't do that. there's more than enough manipulative and gross lyrics in each song to really sell the whole incel bit, but there's also a lot of comedy in it so you're not miserable the whole time. (this is where the incel trilogy fails. it attacks the woman more directly instead of the more manipulative way that it's usually done. this one has the subtlety that the incel trilogy lacks) there's enough incel comedy and genuine commentary. in IILWAEG, you have "I thought you could be the one to fix me." this feigned innocence and needing to be fixed is the creepy part. in IRM, you have "I have spent the past ten years of my life / Making you prepared" this takes away the girls autonomy; she is being prepped to be in a relationship she doesn't want. she has no choice. in YNB you have "I just think that I deserve / A little bit of what I earned" the girl here does not get a choice either. here, the speaker feels entitled to her. and it's scary. he believes he's earned her, as if she's a commodity, not a person.I think the comedy mixed with the genuinely frightening lyrics also show how guys Like This get away with it; they're not taken seriously because they're seen as internet jokesters and losers, when in reality, they're usually much more dangerous. can you tell I've thought about this trilogy a lot? hats off to wilbur soot this one bangs.

#wilbur soot #long post #i like this music i do #snailtrail.asks

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