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themountainsays · 3 years

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Potential AU: Long lost sisters in an arranged marriage AU

*spits drink* did you mean my furry east of the sun west of the moon AU?

Wait no no don't go I'll be normal about it i promise.

Ok i LOVE this concept. Accidental i/ncest. That's such a perfect recipe for angst. Here's what I have (assuming you mean elsanna, anon):

The girls were separated when they were really, really young. Like, Elsa was like 6? She barely remembers Anna but she knows she loved her once. Anna doesn't remember Elsa at all. I don't know what led them to be separated, but I like to think Anna somehow ended up being princess of the Southern Isles. Let's say Agnarr doesn't know how to dad so when Elsa's powers got out of control, he gave his baby up for adoption to the Southern Islander royal family because, hey, the queen always wanted a daughter and they have like 13 kids already, what's one more? They pretty much do tell Elsa that "her sister is living with a different family now" but to Elsa, that sounds like the equivalent of "the dog left to live in a farm" or something. She's convinced Anna is dead but Idk if she's at a point in which she blames herself for it. Maybe? Depending on how shitty A&I are in this AU. And speaking of shitty families oh boy Anna would have such an awful time as the youngest one of the Southern Islander siblings. I mean, Hans spent 16 years bullying her without her noticing and making her feel dumb for not picking up on it, so like, multiply that for 13. Let's say Anna doesn't have a good relationship with big siblings. Idk she feels intimidated by them. I assume that, being the youngest and a girl, she'd be mom's favorite, so maybe that kinda makes up for it? It makes her life in the Southern Isles not awful? Idk she's still super traumatized, but she doesn't realize until much later (what do you mean normal people aren't terrified of their own success? What do you mean normal people don't feel ashamed and guilty all the time?). Her self-esteem is so low, Hades needs to grab a shovel to reach it. She might or might not have trust issues after a lifetime of her brothers pulling some very cruel and malicious pranks on her. If they say "hey look i found a puppy" you can be guaranteed they just have like, a bucket of cold water they're gonna throw at your face (Idk they're not very creative and neither am i).

Anna visits on Elsa's coronation because she's the least likely one to start like, a war with Arendelle or something. A&I are dead (f 😔) and maaaaybe her adoptive parents are planning on telling her the truth since she's 18 and all. And she meets Elsa and it's fucking love at first sight dude. She's hopeless, this poor tiny lesbian. You know how flustered she gets in the movie? Well she's just like that, poor girl. And Elsa finds her so sweet and cute and endearing but she can't put a finger on why. They talk a lot during the party and Anna begins to tell her about her fucked up family life and Elsa's big sister instincts go mad. This is NOT how you treat a little sister. No. Wrong. Bad Hans. Her head is like 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 red flags everywhere! And Anna doesn't seem to notice how this fucked her up? But Elsa is Concerned^TM and she maaaaaaybe mentions something about Anna staying in Arendelle? Surely the Southern Islander ambassy could offer her a bed. But Anna being Anna is thinking about MARRIAGE and she's not the one to bring it up, but she's not complaining when some member of Elsa's council mentions the positive political implications of marrying a Southern Islander princess or something idk. Let's say her powers are not a secret and she has a good grasp on them, but she's still Elsa and she's not 100% comfortable with marrying SOME GIRL SHE JUST MET. But also, she can't see herself falling in love anytime soon and she always knew she'd marry for political reasons, and she really likes Anna and feels very protective of her already. And if it helps her... well, she can go along with it.

The wedding is a bit awkward (ESPECIALLY for Anna's adoptive southern islander parents 😬), and Elsa does offer Anna a room of her own. Awkward awkward awkward. But they slowly begin to feel more and more comfortable with each other. Anna loves Arendelle and she loves not dealing with her brothers all the time. She feels weirdly safe. Elsa treats her very kindly and with a lot of respect, and she's not even that distant anymore. Maybe its because it's the way she's always identified as, but she kinda does feel like a little sister when she's with her. Like she has someone who loves her unconditionally looking after her. ESPECIALLY after Elsa tells her she had a little sister once, and Anna does remind her of her (they even have the same name and look alike, who would have thought! Denial? I don't know her). Ngl Elsa mothers her a little bit, because she kiiiiiinda wants to make up for what she lost. She knows how messed up Anna's older siblings were so she's trying to both fix that and recuperate what is missing in her life by being a good big sister figure to Anna. Kinda. It's not weird because they're not *in* love and their union is entirely political and platonic, right, right? Hahahahahahah anyway, they're both happy with their dynamic.

I'd assume Anna's adoptive parents don't tell her the truth because they don't want to hurt her, but lmao her asshole brothers sure do lol. Like, they just corner her one day with all the documents and proof and whatever and the "you're adopted" joke never hurt this badly. No wait it really does hurt her. A lot. She's absolutely devastated. Her bio parents didn't want her, her adoptive parents lied to her, and the one person in the world she loves the most is the one she's been doing an oedipus with, so she can't turn to her for comfort either. She feels really stupid for not picking up on it earlier, and she find herself so gross and dumb and dirty. Maybe when she does gather the courage to tell Elsa, they have one of those cheesy "no-you-go-first" exchanges and that's when Elsa (who's still in some hardcore denial lmao) tells her she's in love with her, truly and completely. She's been doing some soul searching offscreen dw about it. And that's when Anna breaks into tears again and tells her everything.

It takes them some time, and they talk about it a lot, but they love each other in more ways than one and don't want to sacrifice either their newly recovered sisterhood nor their romantic relationship. But before that is the ANGST. Let's have Elsa be super avoidant. Let's have Anna be EVEN MORE avoidant. Let's have them sleep in separate rooms again. Insert that sweet sweet i/ncest guilt (censoring so tumblr won't do it's thing). Shit maybe Elsa invents divorce? But doesn't actually do anything with it because she and Anna works things out together :) it takes lots of cuddling (because i love cuddling) and comfort for then to slowly grow comfortable in their relationship. They just love each other dude. They continue to work on learning to be sisters as well as lovers. Elsa tells Anna about their parents and their life before she was taken away and look at 19th century family photo albums. Anna begins to feel a new sense of happiness and comfort. Like, oh, this is what having a good big sibling is like. She likes it. And Elsa is just so so so happy to have her little sister back. She thought she'd lost her entire family but she didn't. She still has Anna and she vows to look after her. And also they go on cute dates and Idk do the frick frack every once in a while or whatever the kids call it these days. It's unusual but they're happy with it.

Idk if this is what the ask game was supposed to be but lmao i got carried away. It's a neat AU! I don't think I've ever seen it but I'm weak for accidental sibling i/ncest.

#elsanna #icest #shipcest #arranged marriage au #thank you anon! sorry it took me so long!

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janiedean · 6 years

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Im aro and Ive never had a crush in my life.It doesnt mean that I dont want to have rom relationships, bc there are many reasons why one’d want to have one. Feeling loved, the special place u have in the other person’s life, etc. being in a relationship seems so nice! So its possible that even if u r not in love u still want to have someone.Its pretty selfish&not v good for the other person.But i also know het ppl who do this, starting a relationship bc it’s “comfortable”& cant stand being alone

... I honestly don’t know what to answer tbqh because I thought I made clear that a) since I’m not a-anything (nor aromantic nor asexual) I’m going off what I know in theory and as far as I was informed if you’re aromantic you don’t have romantic feelings towards people and like, one thing is wanting to be in a relationship anyway because you get good things out of it and as I said before people have had relationships of convenience/that started as friendships/where the starting point wasn’t a crush or BANG HOLLYWOOD ROMANCE for centuries and it’s not any less valid imo, but from what that person said it didn’t sound to me like she was aromantic, esp. because most aro people I know aren’t interested in relationships anyway so *shrug*, b) I’m not the right person you wanna discuss the theoretical aspect of love life with because if everyone around here missed it I’ve been saying for ages that the first time I 100% identified with a fictional character it’s guess what someone who’s had fairly heavy crushes in her life but no actual returned love story yet among the rest so I mean... put two and two together. but like, good for you, if you’re happy and the other person knows (bc honestly two people can find companionship together without the hollywood romance and as long as they both get something out of it who cares), but.....

guys, I don’t wanna sound like an asshole and I’m not putting it on my bio because that’d sound slightly ridiculous and tbqh I hate this trend of putting your damned sexuality in your bio, but I’m heterosexual. at most I rank one on the kinsey scale but that’s really damn heterosexual anyway.

if you really have to talk to me about the theoretical aspects of relationships and being in love with someone - np but I mean, you get what you you get, not excellent advice TM most likely - can you please avoid the digs at the het/straights/whatever else people?

everyone wants companionship, or anyway most people do. I’m plenty aware straight people do it same as not straight people. did, like, did you really have to go there? wow, I know that, I’m aware of that, ‘even straight people do it’ well wow honestly what am I even supposed to answer? I don’t even think it’s pathetic or anything of the kind for that matter, as long as everyone involved knows what they’re getting.

like, idk, not to sound like an arse, but could you avoid putting me in positions where I honestly don’t know what to tell you/where you’re lowkey sending digs at categories I belong in? thanks.

#sdljglsk #janie rants #idek #Anonymous #ask post

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loving-jack-kelly · 7 years

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Newsies Boyband AU!

Now first of all I would call them the Newsboys but like...that’s a real band that exists so idk what their name would be

But anyway! Boybands! Fun and cute and lots of wiggle room!

Crutchie

lead singer

beloved by his bandmates and by most fans but every once in awhile there’s that one fan

Idk I just think Charlie is overrated....he can’t sing that well, Jack has a nicer voice, and I think he only gets to sing lead because of his leg :/ I’m not ableist or anything, I just don’t like him

Mostly Crutchie ignores things like that but once in awhile he wonders if they’re true

Jack

lead guitar/harmonies

very much the Hot Onetm but people tend to overlook his talents

designed the logo and does all of the shirts and album covers but doesn’t make that public knowledge

the Crutchie Bashers usually use Jack as an excuse and Jack is having none of it he’s a master vague tweeter

I love all my bandmates and everyone is perfectly suited to what they do, from lights to vocals!

I feel like people forget Crutch and I have been best friends since fifth grade and I have videos like this cause if they didn’t they’d ask for more [video of Crutchie singing The Wizard and I at a middle school talent show]

he loves singing harmony, and only sings lead if somebody makes him. two songs in their repertoire include him on melody

Race

the drummer

(haha guess who still likes EYDW with all his heart?)

he’s the Wild Onetm but everyone adores him because he’s cute and funny

Racetrack Higgins Highlights:

“So I was like, fuck it-wait shit I can’t swear in interviews-fuck! Dammit, sorry, I-” “Race just stop talking”

he broke a snare during a concert once and put it on his head like a hat

pictures of him kissing everyone in the band, on crew, and even fans on the cheek but it’s because that’s what he does. In Italy. That’s how you greet people. and it just carried over

always wears a necklace with a shark tooth. gazes into the distance when asked where it was from and responds with, “I’ll never forget her.” Actually bought it Wings on a day off in North Carolina

changes hair colors every other week. fans go to two concerts in two days. first one he has bright red hair. next day it’s bright blue.

slowly acquiring more piercing until one day they’re all gone.

“Lmao you though those were real? I cried when I got a single ear piercing.”

then people think his tattoo is fake and it isn’t but it’s ridiculous. like literally the word “THOT” on the back of his neck. Spot dared him to.

so people love him even though he’s wild

Spot

designs sound for recordings and live shows

most fans only know him as the one goading Race on

but once in a while somebody recognizes him in the sound booth and is like “ahh, that’s who he is”

also secretly write lyrics sometimes but asks to be credited as “Sam Carlson” so his poetic writing doesn’t ruin his tough guy image

which makes people think of all these crazy theories as to who Sam Carlson is and why he writes songs randomly for the band

is the only reason Race hasn’t gotten lost on tour in a gas station

is the one who set up the Walkie Talkie system that keeps everyone organized

the star of Jack’s snapchat story half the time but never caught doing anything strange? people just know he’s awesome and says funny things

is the one who adopted the cat and resulted in him being named Asshole but it was an accident

Katherine and Sarah

managers and lighting designers

really cool and really gay

every time they’re doing a show around a Pride parade time or during Pride month there are rainbows and other flags everywhere

Sarah is also in charge of PR after the Incident of Race accidentally DMing a fan who’s username included Jack’s name something along the lines of “sup fuckface where are you everyone else is here and you’re the one who said he was bringing the good stuff”

by good stuff he’d simply meant the Purple Doritos but the fan didn’t know that and it took a while for people to let that go

People think Jack and Kat are dating for a long time because they’re always together

it literally took like fifty pictures of Kat and Saz kissing before people stopped denying how gay she was

Davey

plays bass but also violin and other related string instruments

sometimes sings a third part but not usually

people don’t give him much credit until there’s a new song

which starts out really slow and is only Jack singing and Davey playing cello but mid song it picks up and Dave changes instruments really fast like in the space of one beat to violin and goes really hard and the song tops the charts for weeks because it’s like crazy good

“yeah I’m a classically trained violinist, I just usually have more fun on bass” “...” “but i like that song a lot, most times I’m on violin it’s slow and boring”

that song is also when most of the Crutchie Bashing started because it was the first really popular one that featured Jack on melody since only Jack sang

Their shows are legendary for being good like the vocals the instrumentals everything is always good

they got their start in college where Crutchie got them into one of the theatres and it was just for fun

but Race, the wild one even in the very beginning, realized that they were actually really good and signed them up for some show like America’s Got Talent or something like that

and while they didn’t win overall, they did get enough attention to get a record deal

and then they just EXPLODED and became the new big thing

which kind of freaked all of them out a little bit because what has started as fun music with friends was suddenly paparazzi and crazy fans and people wanting to know “when is it what is it where is it how are you will you” about their songs

but they mostly acclimated pretty fast

Crutchie had the hardest time because while he’s friendly he’s also a but of an introvert and needs his privacy which was suddenly a lot harder to find

like most boybands, instantly there were Those Fans who shipped people

the most common one became Jack and Race because they seemed like the ones most likely to like each other

really though it was Spot and Race, who balanced each other out, and Jack and Crutchie, who’d been in love for years and only figure it out when people started trying to ship Jack and Race which made Crutchie really jealous, and the people who nobody knew as well like Specs and Romeo, Kat and Saz (at first they became better known later), etc

they get a really good rep with people because they’re always willing to take a selfie or like fanart as long as it isn’t creepy, or answer questions

Jack hosts monthly Q&A sessions on his snapchat and each time it’s somebody new

so like the first one is Crutchie, then Davey, then Race, then Katherine, then Sarah, the Romeo, etc

They don’t come out for a long time but one day they’re performing in a town where there's this big news story about a gay kid getting harassed at school and they know the kid is there because it was the only positive thing they found on his twitter, so they all come out together like the entire band and crew

“So we’ve heard about some of the stuff that’s been going on here, and we want everyone to know that we don’t agree with it, at all. In fact, things like that effect us, too. I’m not the most eloquent speaker, but if you’re hurting today because of who you are, of how you’re born, know that you’ll always have support with us.”

And Jack kisses Crutchie in public for the first time which leads to Race stealing Crutchie’s mic and yelling something about “get up here asshat we can’t let him show us up!” and then suddenly every single couple involved in the band is on stage being proud of who they are

the kid who was getting bullied cried and then they invited him backstage and he cried more and it was really sweet and they stayed in touch

After that the Discoursetm is horrible around them for like, months

“reminder that Jack is dating Crutchie and shipping him with Race is not cool”

“reminder that we can ship whoever we want with whoever we want and it doesn’t cause harm”

“stop calling Jack bi when he’s gay, don’t erase his identity” (jack retweets it with the added caption “I’m bi as heck actually everyone is pretty and it’s not fair :)”

“they’re just faking it for attention!!!1!!1″

after a few years they announce it’s their last tour and people are like “oh no, what happened, did people start fighting?”

and their answer is “no but we’re like twenty eight now and honestly just want to get married and settle down”

except for Spot and Race who plan on going around the world in eighty days and then getting a dog and doing it again with the dog

or at least, that Race’s plan, Spot just honestly wants to stop moving around and settle down a bit, but maybe not get married yet

So the band breaks up and people are kinda sad but every time they’re all in one place, which is pretty often since they’re all best friends, somebody snapchat/instagram/twitter/youtube gets a new video of them messing around

Jack and Davey out out a solo album and it’s really good

Crutchie gets coerced into releasing a Christmas album and it’s funny

and Davey makes a Hanukkah album that’s him playing and singing traditional songs that he sang growing up and it’s gorgeous

Bonus: Red Carpet Tidbits

because I have a lot of feelings about Crutchie’s style

Crutchie gets known for never wearing a normal tux like it’s always custom done and never just black or navy

also his makeup is always On Point like crazy good and people are like “tell us your secrets” and he’s like “lol cvs and years of practice and makeup tutorials from YouTube”

Jack wears normal suites but there’s always a twist

the first was the time he actually just spilled paint on himself in the suit bc he’s an idiot but there wasn’t time for a new one so they ended up just going with it and it looked pretty okay

and after that he get’s suites from like Macy’s modified to look better on him and to add cool things

also his hat game is pretty terrific

he’s also a total hipster and people know it

Davey wears totally normal red carpet men’s attire but lets Crutchie do his makeup and look absolutely gorgeous

Race wears crazy stuff

like you know the Great Comet ensemble costume design? probably things like that. formal wear turned into punk style things and he pulls it off and lets Crutchie do his makeup too

the best picture of the band is from like, the Grammys or some award show like that where Crutchie is in a purple suit, Jack is wearing a beanie and a jackson pollock styled color splashed suit, dave is looking fine in a perfectly normal suit and SUPER Extra but good makeup, and Race is like barely clothed but still obviously supposed to be wearing a suit like thing and like a foot shorter than everyone

#Asper talks too much #txting #yet another au nobody asked for #boyband au #newsies au #newsies hc #newsies #i forgot to finish this pls reblog from me and not other people thats so embarrassing

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takeanotherpieceofmyhartwin · 7 years

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Bitter Anon

That’s your name now. Short for Bitter, Salty Anon McBitchFace.

I’ve tried being nice. On the three (maybe four) separate occasions where you’ve so lovingly come into my inbox to tell me that I make you feel like shit for daring to have friends.

So many people have given you advice or offered for you to come into their inboxes and talk and make friends. So many. THIS MANY PEOPLE.

But now you’ve gone to other people, some on the very list of people who offered to talk. @notbrogues @unwinthehart and probably some more that I haven’t seen yet. And even if you’re not all the same anon, you all complain about the same thing, so together you make Bitter Anon (TM.)

Key Words From You(All):

Circlejerk/only talk/tag the same blogs. WE should reach out. My stuff is ignored.

Okay, circlejerk, which I guess is basically the same as talking to the same blogs. Everyone and their mother has already explained that these friendships were formed over time from mutual reaching out on everyone’s part. You know, how you make friends in real life?

Or do you yell at people you don’t know in real life for not including you in their conversations and inside jokes?

Actually, don’t answer that. I bet I know the answer.

Point two, always telling all the other blogs to reach out to YOU. I’m sorry, we don’t owe you shit.

We’ve tried, and we continue to try, to include newcomers and older fandom members who are coming back into the fold. We try to interact if we’re spoken to, and on my part, I reblog new art or stories if I see them and like them.

I’m not on Tumblr all the goddamn time. I’m sorry if I miss your shit. No one is on Tumblr all the time. But I also don’t owe it to you to do all the reaching out all the time. No one does. Not me, not the two other people I’ve seen you bitch at, not anyone else in this fandom.

You could be reaching out right this very instant. You could be making potential friends. You could be using your time and energy leaving non-anon asks or messages. You could be idk not sending stupid ass anon asks about how no one will talk to you boo fucking hoo. You’re on anon what the fuck do you want us to do?

The last point, about how your stuff is ignored and you can’t get a foot in the door? To be fair, that point is from your beef with me.

“Y'all act as though I don't try to interact. Like I don't try to be a part of things but my stuff is always ignored. I've been part of this fandom since the beginning and never got a foot in the door no matter how hard I tried.“

I’m sorry your stuff hasn’t been noticed or reblogged. I know that it sucks when you spend your energy on something for a fandom and it’s ignored.

But you know what I’m not sorry about? You not getting a “foot in the door.” If you’re going to act like the fandom owes it to you to notice you or befriend you, I don’t feel very sorry. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but acting like the world owes you shit doesn’t tend to yield positive results. Especially when you’re demanding the friendship or reaching out from what you consider bigger blogs.

It makes it sound like you’re trying to interact for exposure.. And as @hartwinorlose lovingly said a few days ago:

“if you only talk to a person as if their blog/fics/content is the whole of them, then yeah, your relationship probably isn’t going to be very good. look at it from the (other) perspective: if you’re only contacting them because you want exposure, they’re not going to feel very good about that. nobody owes you their friendship and if you get upset with someone for not giving it to you, that’s on you, not them”

TL;DR: If you bump into an asshole in the morning, you bumped into an asshole. If everyone around you is an asshole, you’re the asshole.

#fandom #rant #long post #i don't believe anyone is 100% a dick but you're really pushing it anon #Bitter Salty Anon McBitchFace

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closedspeciesdrama · 7 years

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Re: The Wendigo argument, there's this instability trait which is prevalent on the internet these days. There are a lot of very unstable young men and women who try to give themselves meaning and worth by deeming themselves "gatekeepers" of either political correctness or cultural appropriation. Down to a man the ones I've seen in CS and in other communities are typically insecure to the point of near-mania and with any number of mental issues. Gatorbite and VCR are like poster boys. 1 of 2

- The best way to deal with this sort of nonsense isn’t to argue with them which is ultimately narcissistic supply and a means for them to try and show how morally “superior” they are to their victim, it’s simply best to flat out block them if needed or ignore them. Might seem harsh but I have personal issue with the way they use issues of gender and culture to bully every community they touch and to intimidate younger people with threats of dubbing them “bad people” or public defamation. 2 of 2

(1)Citing “Windigo Psychosis: the anatomy of an emic-etic confusion” an academic journal by a group of anthropologists: “When the windigo phenomenon is considered from the point of view of group sociodynamics rather than from that of individual psychodynamics, the crucial question is not what causes a person to become a cannibalistic maniac, but under what circumstances a Northern Algonkian is likely to be accused of having become a cannibalistic maniac(2)and thus run the risk of being executed as such. It is argued that those so executed were victims of triage homicide or witch hunts, events common in societies under stress.” Hell just that alone should be enough. Algonkians and other natives were straight up murdered over a mythological creature that was used against them. No one besides Algonkians are in any placeto make a CS/adopt design based on something with such a dark historical context.(3)Looking beyond Wikipedia could have easily told you this. Also, no anon, you fucking idiot, the wendigo was a thing before the term “wendigo psychosis” even existed as a culture-bound syndrome. AND IF YOU PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER… usually “culture-bound” syndromes are inherently racist and untrue.

Didn’t vcr-wolfe get called out for something too tho like if you’re gonna be the 1# sjw for everything wouldn’t it be ironic to get a call out for a shitty thing you’ve done

OH MY GOD. that post is LITERALLY a whole fucking year ago. once again vendetta anons pull shit from their ass. that character isnt even a freaking adopt, and vcr doesnt even have a species and has hardly sold maybe 3 adopts in the last 6 months? maybe if yall weren’t reaching so far into the past for some petty bs we could stay on topic for once lmao

Wait is there any proof of them being white?? I’ve I beleive I saw vcr wolfe say they’re native or smth before. But the thunderbird thing is so stupid lmao in the Wild West tm a lot of towns only had like white people because natives were driven out. I mean depending on the characters setting. Plus there’s majority of white people. Thunderbirds aren’t like a wendigo, you can say it’s name and talk about it and it wouldn’t attack just you so I don’t see a problem lmao

I think the issue here is you’re going to have people from a culture saying something is offensive, but someone else from the same culture saying that it’s not offensive and they’re glad you’re taking interest in their culture in the first place. See: Every East Asian mythology based CS out there, basically. Literally there is no right or wrong across the board, nobody “wins”, and that’s just how life is. Grey morality exists, just let people make content they enjoy ffs.

People act like VCR-WOLFE’s word is law or something. I can see being passionate about causes and all but they take the cake for extremism. People should be allowed to make a character any race to fit their preferences or just their likes, of course within being respectful. I think VCR gets some kind of high and mighty buzz by going after people, especially us evil whites.

multiple poc: hey this is offensive. yall: uhm idk that sounds fake :/. one poc: yeah it’s fake. yall, digging your claws in: YOU SEE? WE WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG! THIS ONE POC HAS VALIDATED OUR RACISM FOREVER! *pterodactyl screech*

Is vcr wolfe a serious account or is it just some random asshole that enjoys stirring up people by being the dictionary image for the social justice warrior stereotype that literally everyone hates. I have seen them be a little weiner before (cue them accusing me of misgendering them), I would take nothing they say seriously because honestly they are a joke.

Why does this Wendigo shit still come up? This is the same as the sombrero Mario crap that blew up on twitter. Quit speaking for other cultures that you don’t belong to. Native American people have expressed both support and distain for the issue. A wendigo is a monster, why is making a monster be a monster suddenly such a taboo? You can white knight the subject to death, you aren’t in the wrong but you’re certainly not in the right either. If you don’t support it then don’t.

context: the wendigo was used as a slur and label for natives/Algonquins who were mentally ill (aka called them canibals; hence “wendigo psychosis”) and was used to justify their genocide so making an adopt out of such a theme isn’t taken lightly as this has a historic context you can’t erase (source: I live in the algonquin northeast) (½)mythical creatures such as vampires and werewolves come from a ton of different cultures and generally they’ve been reinterpreted so often that it doesn’t retain its origin context. here’s another point- the Algonquin people still exist. despite the mythical creature being used against them they are more than in the right to use it how they see fit. it’s sorta like how the lgbt community took back the word “queer” while a straight person should definitely not call a gay person “a queer” (2/2)

Btw the wendigo isn’t a legend ! It’s a tale told up north and is taken very seriously. The reason people don’t want you to use it is because saying the name is suppose to make you a victim ( aa I forgot I’m sorry ) BUT I still beleive if you do your research u should be okay like just don’t make it a xD murderer monster cannibal

The thing with a wendigo character is not everyone is going to see/research the full story of them, because they’ve been big in media for awhile now. Until Dawn, Supernatural, even My Little Pony. And tbh, it’s something that while drifting away from the original intent, does bring traditional stories to the homes of others, who otherwise would never know the term, or know of the monsters. Mass media is keeping our culture alive, even as we kill it ourselves by not letting others near it.

this just in: vcr-wolfe solely dictates what can and cannot be used from cultures in character designs

VCR is mixed actually lol

VCR-wolfe is actually half mexican. So maybe don’t be fucking racist?

Can we stop the “ insulting = I’m right” thing it’s so stupid. If someone’s discussing something or DOESNT KNOW you don’t have to insult them. You look like a jerk js ( this is towards the anon in the wendigo post about wendigo-psychosis). The person was just basically saying ‘fun fact’ no need to call them a fucking idiot jeez

Mixed with what? I’ve seen this argument on another drama site. If they are mixed, they are white enough to pass as entirely white. Even then your word isn’t some divine rule on what is right & wrong. VCR constantly leans on the “I’m mentally ill” schtick, maybe they should focus on themselves for a bit & quit badgering people that want to enjoy another culture. Geez would bringing back segregation make you fuckers happy, let start DNA testing before you can draw or create a non white character.

The anon about wendigo pychosis got their panties in a twist lmao. If we can’t use anything with “” dark historical context" or “ only ____ are allowed to use this” then we all might as well sick to our own religions and make nothing but what we’re born into/practice. So if you’re native and you make a nun rabbit prepare for a ass chewing ! :( keep whining about everything you just sound like a broken record lmao you “” fucking idiot “”

Wait so if vcr-Wolfe isn’t native what say do they got in it then??? If they’re Mexican/white ??? Why don’t they step down and let real native/mixed natives speak for themselves and not have someone gatekeeping their beliefs Jesus lord I LOVE when none natives try to speak for my culture

Multi poc people: this is bad y'all: SEE ITS EVIL Multi poc: its alright do your research tho Y'all: WTF THATS BAD WHAT ABOUT OUR TOKEN FRRIENDS SAYING ITS OKAY AAAA Get your head out your ass dude there’s two sides to the shit just because people back your opinion doesn’t mean you can use your poc friends as a way to wave it around. You’re being just as bad to diss other peoples opinions FROM THE SAME GROUP lmao

i’m ndn, and personally my opinion on the entire thing is, don’t make wendigo characters for profit in general, especially if you’re not ndn. i don’t even like seeing my brothers, sisters, and two-spirited brethren do it. it’s one thing to make one for personal use, and as long as you’re not making them uwu edgy wendigo doggo that eats people uwu then.. honestly? who cares. but stop making wendigos when you know nothing about the culture, or that many tribes have different lore on it.

also the entire thing of wendigo psychosis being a thing: false. that was a term made up waaaaay after the fact. the thing is, there are multiple tribes that believe in wendigo, many have different names for it, and there’s even variations born differently like wechuge. but the fact of the matter is that most people don’t even read in or pay attention beyond the edgy cannibal shit to know that a wendigo is pretty much a skeleton made out of ice in most tribal cultures LMAO not a fucking dog

the entire purpose of people saying ‘hey if you don’t understand it, don’t make it’ is so that you don’t make a mockery of our legends, lore, culture, and history. not so you can’t have fun. it’s like me making a black character and making them stereotypical and completely shitting on it, and then doubling back with the ‘oh i made a black character so i understand black struggles’ shit like. it’s not cute when you do it to any race or culture so stop.

Why is it a crime to make Wendigo characters but when some family lines (before me, I don’t care) wouldn’t approve of the use of nordic mythos no one bats an eye at adopts that play off them, or for that matter, movies and shows that paint them in completely inaccurate ways. You can’t close the mythos of one culture & make it untouchable while saying some are fine to take from, that isn’t how it works.

VCR is mixed Mexican Navajo and saying a mixed person is basically white is just fucking ugly and racist as shit, holy shit

Nordic myth is white myth and white people are not in any danger of having their culture stamped out and then reinterpreted by their oppressors while they are punished for trying to access it, unlike, you know, Native American myth. Reverse racism isn’t real

‘nordic myth is white myth and–’ it’s still someone’s religion, so yeah actually it still stands, either all religions are sacred inherently and are off limits or none are and you can’t bitch and whine and moan and throw a social justice tantrum into that being untrue, people making shitty wendigo ocs isn’t stamping anyone’s religion out any more than marvel making a shitty version of loki is, they’re equally stupid but harmless

Except there is a huge fucking difference between open and closed religions? Nordic pagan worship is an open religion. Native folk religions are closed religions. Christianity is an open religion. The Amish are, by and large, a closed sect. Sincerely, an nordic heathen who knows full well what people can take from my belief system

“Werehyenas can’t be made into species and characters because they appropriate African culture uwu~” The hyena and werehyena have a very similar negative connotation in African folklore by you don’t see them getting so butt hurt over them being used. I get so sick and tired of people saying you can’t base a CS or Character off of a fictional monster. I guess I should toss out my Church Grim OC because that’s an insult to English and Scandinavian Folklore as it guards a place considered sacred

literally no one is saying dont ever do it theyre saying be respectful, follow the originating culture’s traditions, and dont slap a native myth on a white character because its disrespectful to the culture you supposedly like so much youre pulling from them. entitled much?

"my friend finds this thing offensive! your friend doesn't find this offensive? stop tokenising your friends, also YOUR friends are WRONG!" so native voices only count when they agree with you? maybe accept that an individual can't speak for an entire group, and that people from within the same culture can have very different ideas about what cultural appropriation even is.

Everyone yelling about wendigos when they're ignoring the fact Sincommonstitches literally made a design based off the imperial rising sun (you know- rape of Nanking?? Children and women slaughtered?) and day of the dead (mexican holiday already shit on for $$$) guardians, sold them for profit, and then bitched in a journal when they got called out how they shouldn't have to deal with this and they need their fiance to handle their pr now lmfao

Keeping all this in one post, anything new sent in will be added to this post. While it is on topic, it is far from species related.

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I never thought I'd be this person but I legit said"what hetero nonsense is this" when Rose said love and kissed Finn lol

okay anon this is not against you and I know you didn’t mean this seriously and I know this reply might be overreacting, and you probably didn’t see that I previously posted about hating how this fandom (especially *my* subfandom technically) is reacting to finnrose so you probably didn’t know, but: no.

specifically:

it wasn’t random nor nonsense. she had a fangirl crush on him, she got to know him better and she liked him and she thought she was about to bloody die. if I was in her place I also would kiss the guy I like if anything to know I’ve done it.

on the other side, he needed to talk to someone he didn’t know already and to show him a different side of things and who made him realize that the resistance was more than single people he might have cared for or not going against the big bad evil, which was what made him finally stop running. he didn’t kiss her back but it’s nice that he gets it from someone who likes him genuinely, especially coming after a life of dehumanization.

so it wasn’t nonsense, it was a plot decision you can like or not but saying it was out of left field or made no sense or was nonsensical is not a thing I can agree with because imo it was very well-developed and like in a life or death situation I would probably try to kiss the guy I liked, and rose liking finn was already introduced from the moment she showed up and then she just got to like him as the person he was rather than the supposed *legend* or whatever, which... is... nice. it’s normal. it happens. why the hell should it be nonsensical?

ah, because it was heteronormative and apparently if het ships happen it’s bad because they’re heterosexual, which is like, typical tumblr drivel and sorry but nah.

(now, before I go into it: if it had been rey kissing finn, would people be crying about heteronormative nonsense? idk. just a thought. and guess what, for me finn/rey is like, the most platonic shit in existence and I can’t see the two of them kissing romantically and it making any sense so we all see it differently, but if it had happened I’d have shrugged and moved on with my life. anyway.)

listen, guys, let’s be freaking real, as much as tumblr likes to think the contrary, straight/heterosexual people make up 90% of the demographic. heteronormativity is normativity because nine people on ten are straight. the problem is when heteronormativity is seen as the only default. the point is that if you want to counteract that you have to push to normalize relationships that are not heteronormative and make sure they’re seen as a valid alternative to the norm, but you can’t honestly go and say that heteronormativity is in itself statistically wrong because it’s not, nor that it’s in itself inherently wrong because then you pass the message that if you’re straight you’re *wrong* and honestly from a website where the message that people think they’re passing is that *you aren’t -wrong- for your sexuality I’m really tired to see that it’s valid for everything except straight people. because it’s really fun to go online and wade through posts on posts of people joking about how if you’re straight you’re Bad, you have no tastes, you’re not a good lay if you’re a man and should date women anyway if you’re a woman and everything bad in the world is the fault of you horrible straight person and ah, wait, being straight is also boring and who would choose to be straight -

except that you don’t choose your sexuality. no, I didn’t choose mine either. (yes, I’m straight if it wasn’t clear, and I’m getting progressively pissed off at this attitude. actually I’ve gone past the point of pissed off, but never mind that.

so like, now apparently if a heterosexual ship happens it’s all because they wanted to cater to the straight crowd and it’s all nonsense just because it’s a man and a woman locking lips!

and like, fuck, no. this idea that finnrose is inherently nonsense because it’s *heteronormative* and they pushed finn on a WOMAN THAT’S NOT REY is.... sorry, I know you didn’t mean it like that and I don’t wanna sound like an asshole, but if you say that rey would have been cool and rose isn’t then WHY, I mean isn’t rose okay enough? good enough? I mean I’ve read some stuff on *my ship’s* tag which was reeking racism because rose was apparently a downgrade and rey was the only option they could accept *if finn had to be with a woman* and honestly, no?? that’s... like... no??? I find it really rich coming from people who ship... a pairing.... made of nonwhite people.... at least for US standards (yeah I ship finn/poe mainly and this movie has made me block half of the tag for the finnrose vitriol IMAGINE HOW NICE). and IT ONLY HAPPENED SO THEY COULD CANCEL THE GAY COUPLE is like... a) it wasn’t gonna happen in the MIDDLE movie anyway esp. a franchise that gets distributed in countries where the gay couple would mean a ban/the movie not getting released (like, we do remember the beauty and the beat wank over damned lefou for what, ten seconds of him dancing with a dude??), b) means that finn’s sl would have had any worth just if he and poe made out (and same for poe) which basically means reducing their storylines to them making out? like, that’s... really.... sad? they only have worth as characters if they make out? sorry, I can’t really rally behind that. I care about them as characters and I loved their sl this movie and if they don’t kiss WHATEVER, 99% of the m/m couples I shipped in my life stayed not canon and it never changed my life, even if they were in relationships with women. that’s why fanfic exists. maybe next movie we’re getting it (because anyway rose kissed finn, he didn’t kiss back or anything so it can go there or it can’t and whichever way it goes I’m okay with it) maybe we’re not, but saying that their existence is useless if they don’t kiss or bang or aren’t *gay* just reeks of tokenism to me and the fact that finnrose is being described as heteronormative bullshit made to appease the r/eylo people or to deny people finn/poe is really not a thing I can rally behind either.

like, again, there’s nothing NONSENSE behind it and the fact that you attached heteronormative to it again means that the problem with it is that it’s an heterosexual ship and given that it had all reasons for existing and that, again, I’m really fucking tired of every straight relationship in new media getting thrown at the wolves just because it’s straight and being straight on tumblr is Very Bad TM so... sorry. it’s not. and like, if according to you it was just *nonsense* fine, you didn’t like it, legit, but heteronormative nonsense? really? can we just.... not... frame it as if anything heteronormative or heterosexual or straight is The Worst especially since on top of that finnrose is actually pretty progressive as a thing? I mean, when was the last time you saw a main black lead in an immensely popular scifi franchise that everyone and their kids watch in a relationship with an asian woman? never. like, it’s progressive, too, not the same way finn/poe is but progressive nonetheless, so... like... can’t we just let this goddamned ship live and be the cute thing it was without splitting hairs?

because sorry but again the fact that the main objections I’ve seen were a) IT’S STRAIGHT AND NOT GAY, b) he’s kissing rose and not rey IF WE HAD TO HAVE A STRAIGHT SHIP, c) IT’S PROREYLO AND ANTISTORMPILOT which.... uuughhh. like, can’t y’all take things the way they are? (nvm that I could rant for three hours about how r*ylo was like, written to happen and the fact that people don’t want to recognize that a villain has a personality is another entire problem but never mind.) it’s a cute ship. it happens to be straight. it’s also fairly progressive in itself. it was put on a good (imo) storyline which made sense and everything poor rose did was kissing the dude she liked after saving his life and thinking she was about to die. lay off her, pls?

last thing: since - we all guessed it by now - I happen to be straight can... y’all... please... not send me asks about how shitty heteronormative ships are and the likes? I mean, I know it’s a problem in a lot of cases and I’m more than willing to call it out if it’s obviously done maliciously but this wasn’t the case and I’m honestly tired of this STRAIGHTS ARE TERRIBLE drivel and HETERONORMATIVITY IS INHERENTLY BAD drivel and so on. especially when it’s about a thing I don’t actively ship but liked (finnrose) and then I have to go into my ship’s tag (f/p) and see it trashed to hell and back and read posts over posts about how they fucked up f/p for THE STRAIGHTS when I’d be the first person to offer the entire cinema a beer if it actually was canon. like, I’d be overjoyed if it was. but not at the cost of being assholes to other people who ship other things or at the cost of trashing on this movie for things that don’t exist or deny both of those two’s character arcs because at the end of it THEY AREN’T GAY. (as if they couldn’t be bi or pan, but of course anything that implies that someone could be in a rship with someone of the different sex is okay just as long as the relationship isn’t with someone of a different sex. like. please guys. no.)

last thing: don’t take this rant personally anon I’m sure you meant well, but you just touched on a thing that is really irking me lately and my hand slipped. I’m really meaning no ill will I’m just really tired of this HORRIBLE HETERONORMATIVE complaints thrown around like candy because of course everyone has feelings and shouldn’t be insulted except straight people because they are the majority so they can go die in a fire as far as tumblr cares. peace.

#finnrose #i hope it's okay to tag but i've seen some horrid shit tagged FR from people who hate it for dumb reasons so #sw wank #the last jedi for ts #the last jedi spoilers for ts #ch: finn (sw)#ch: rose tico #the last jedi #the last jedi spoilers #jfc I can't anymore like I don't even know how to put it without sounding like an arse #but guys no #like if you send me asks like this idk what answer you'll expect to receive #but not 'ikr'#because that's not it #thanks I'm done #Anonymous #ask post

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oooh i'm not a fan of show!asha/yara either but can i know why you don't like the show's interpretation of her?

k guys GOT NEGATIVITY ABOUNDS

asha isn’t exactly a girly girl who likes to hold hands and sing kumbaya with others but she’s not an asshole and *tough love* doesn’t mean BEING AN ASSHOLE

(the fact that they changed the name because of the osha thing is ridiculous too)

asha greyjoy would not go all the way to the dreadfort to get theon and then leave because she saw two dogs are we serious, and that was when the problems started

asha greyjoy might not be the person with most tact ever but I think bringing a guy who’s been castrated to a brothel and then proceeding to talk about fucking in front of him is not what she’d do

asha greyjoy is actually not lesbian (???) and doesn’t play into the butch woman stereotypes either (???) but I guess badass lesbian pirate queen fits better for what d&d wanted to do

asha greyjoy doesn’t also sound to me like the person who goes to sex slaves to get laid since she has plenty of men who can’t wait to get her laid and with whom she has kinky sex to her satisfaction but lol I doubt d&d ever read that part of the books did they

asha greyjoy wouldn’t make out with ellaria sand just after she completely demeaned her brother in front of her after the guy went out of a shitload of trauma because she actually, wow, HAS FEELINGS

My sister, Theon thought, my sweet sister. Though he had lost all feeling in his arms, he felt the twisting in his gut, the same as when that bloodless Braavosi banker presented him to Asha as a 'gift.' The memory still rankled. The burly, balding knight who'd been with her had wasted no time shouting for help, so they'd had no more than a few moments before Theon was dragged away to face the king. That was long enough. He had hated the look on Asha's face when she realized who he was; the shock in her eyes, the pity in her voice, the way her mouth twisted in disgust. Instead of rushing forward to embrace him, she had taken half a step backwards. "Did the Bastard do this to you?" she had asked."Don't you call him that." Then the words came spilling out of Theon in a rush. He tried to tell her all of it, about Reek and the Dreadfort and Kyra and the keys, how Lord Ramsay never took anything but skin unless you begged for it. He told her how he'd saved the girl, leaping from the castle wall into the snow. "We flew. Let Abel make a song of that, we flew." Then he had to say who Abel was, and talk about the washerwomen who weren't truly washerwomen. By then Theon knew how strange and incoherent all this sounded, yet somehow the words would not stop. He was cold and sick and tired... and weak, so weak, so very weak.She has to understand. She is my sister. He never wanted to do any harm to Bran or Rickon. Reek made him kill those boys, not him Reek but the other one. "I am no kinslayer," he insisted. He told her how he bedded down with Ramsay's bitches, warned her that Winterfell was full of ghosts. "The swords were gone. Four, I think, or five. I don't recall. The stone kings are angry." He was shaking by then, trembling like an autumn leaf. "The heart tree knew my name. The old gods. Theon, I heard them whisper. There was no wind but the leaves were moving. Theon, they said. My name is Theon." It was good to say the name. The more he said it, the less like he was to forget. "You have to know your name," he'd told his sister. "You... you told me you were Esgred, but that was a lie. Your name is Asha.""It is," his sister had said, so softly that he was afraid that she might cry.

yeah, I didn’t see any of that shit happen in the show, like, what the fuck was the reunion in S6? and

The ironborn bowed and retreated. Asha took a knee. "Your Grace. Must my brother be chained like that? It seems a poor reward for bringing you the Stark girl."The king's mouth twitched. "You have a bold tongue, my lady. Not unlike your turncloak brother.""Thank you, Your Grace."

yeaaaaaaaaah TOTALLY WOULD HAVE FRENCHED ELIA INSTEAD. LOL.

tldr: y*ara greyjoy is some kind of fantasy power trip of the typical PIRATE WARRIOR GIRL WHO HAS TO BE A LESBIAN, NEEDS NO MAN AND HATES EVERYTHING FEMININE AND HAS NO FEELINGS (at least past S3) and is a complete fucking asshole who treats her brother like dirt 90% of the time whether she wants to or not (and I could say a lot about that brothel scene because lol that scene managed to not be 100% cringy because of the acting but the rest? god it was so uncomfortable to watch I wanted to vomit) and who apparently can’t be in touch with her feelings because god forbid women who aren’t *feminine* are in touch with their feelings and not assholes, asha greyjoy is an actually well-written character who is not a walking stereotype, who does not treat her brother like dirt or calls people insults which are incidentally demeaning women, and incidentally people being theon, who has absolutely not being insulted and likened to a woman by both his father and ramsay in the books but not by his sister, who, by the way, at some point went like

“Cunt again? It was odd how men like Suggs used that word to demean women when it was the only part of a woman they valued.”

and she’s also not some kind of fantasy power trip made by someone (idk which d but I suppose weiss since benioff is better at things outside GOT) who thinks that in order to write a Strong Woman TM who defies gender roles then you have to write her as victarion greyjoy.

actually, y*ara is basically male victarion except less terrible, and asha is *asha*, not victarion. and the next time I hear that ‘she was the only one who ever cared about theon’ bc apparently they want us all to buy that angle when robb existed and the show forgot I’m gonna punch a wall.

thank you for your time and yeah, that’s what I’ve got.

#got negativity #game of thrones spoilers for ts #ch: yara (got)#ch: asha greyjoy #anti-yara greyjoy #sorry guys I really can't fucking stand *yara* at this point #castration cw #Anonymous #ask post

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janiedean · 7 years

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Ok but… Laws are not about being morally perfect? They're about protecting the most people. Are you saying that you would fight for the right of a minority of people (we're talking of a very small number, especially globally) to choose prostitution for themselves even if it condemned the vast majority who is being coerced/trafficked into it? This is as if i advocated for the right of children to work because i was bored at school. Do you not see how privileged you have to be to have this pov?

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oh good fucking lord

it’s 1 am and I have no other better way to phrase this

I am against the idea that one law can override a person’s agency

like anon idk if you’ve ever been on the opposite side of the very paternalistic attitude certain people have of telling you that when it concerns a PERSONAL MATTER YOU HAVE PUT THOUGHT INTO AND YOU HAVE PERFECTLY VALID OPINIONS ABOUT they know better than you and you’re a poor idiot who has been conned into thinking differently and will take offense when you say that no, you know your own mind, because I have been tho not for that related matter and I can assure you that you want to murder someone

I’m saying that I would fight for the right of everyone to choose what they want to do with their life without someone else deciding for them that their choices are inherently harmful and that at the same time I don’t want it to leave room for coercion

like, man, you think prostitution is legal TM in most countries where there are actual huge issues with child prostitute and trafficking or that if it is, it’s regulated properly? in italy it’s not ILLEGAL but there’s a legislation making all activities connected with it illegal, there’s not ACTUAL law that legalizes it except for a supreme court sentence that says that if you’re on your own prostitution is a legal activity to have but we don’t work on common law so idek and we have huge issues with sex traffickers and underage prostitute trafficking which we didn’t have when brothels weren’t outlawed, and they’ve been for half a century and guess why people have been talking about changing that law because it was obviously not working and it’s not working yet. what are you proposing, that we ban prostitution? that sex work automatically makes the sex worker a victim overriding their agency because it happens to most people being into sex work? and how do you solve it, stopping it period or doing it like in sweden? because newsflash as I’ve been telling for ages, prostitution has been around since the beginning of times and it’s not going away because we decide it’s immortal or that it should be banned for whichever reason it is, which is a factual fact and not me idealizing shit, because otherwise prostitution would have disappeared ages ago.

like. man. humans are generally sexual beings. if they can’t find someone to do it it’s not implausible that they’ll look for it for money and THEY ALWAYS HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL. at this point I’d rather have SOME FUCKING KIND OF REGULATION FOR IT THAN NOT.

also I don’t think you’re aware of one thing, that if you’re thinking of ‘a vast majority forced into prostitution’ you’re talking about THE ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET, because there’s people forced into it in germany, in nigeria, in italy, in thailand and in every goddamned country in existence to various degrees. HOW do you think you can solve the issue in THE ENTIRE PLANET when the situation changes also due to specific cultural issues and how each country handles it? it has to be looked at differently in each country and in any case you can’t assume that sweden is the same as thailand.

and anyway as fucking privileged as it might sound to you, THINKING FOR OTHER PEOPLE AND ASSUMING THAT YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THEM ABOUT THE DECISION THEY TAKE FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT LOOKING AT IT CASE BY CASE is imo paternalistic, offensive, frankly degrading and disrespectful of people’s agency. case closed. I am not budging on that. period. I want people who want to fuck others for a living to be able to do it and I want laws to persecute anyone and anything who tries to force anyone to have sex as a job if they don’t want to. and you can’t say that it’s impossible period to do it because this system as I imagine it doesn’t exist anywhere (yet) and seeing sex work as a regular kind of job is a relatively new thing at least in western culture, so it can’t be a thing that happens overnight. like, are you purposefully ignoring that I’ve stated a hundred times that I absolutely abhor the concept of people being forced into sex work (btw not all sex work is prostitution but okay) or are you just avoiding mentioning it because then it makes me sound like an asshole? because I feel like you’re purposefully ignoring it.

also, your comparison?

actually children having to go to school and not having to work is a relatively new concept because guess what it hasn’t been legalized properly for the entirety of the 19th century, like, have you read any dickens? in italy I’m fairly sure that for a while the obligatory school stopped at ten years old and the first laws seriously regulating it were made in early 20th century.

a lot of children in the world actually work and don’t go to school, and idk if you were around years ago when there was a huge scandal over nike employing child labor. actually, most probably, more children in the world work more than attend school until they’re sixteen anyway. GLOBALLY, children don’t have a right to go to school more than they are forced to go to work. but okay. like, congrats, if you wanted a problem to fight globally as well, you have just nailed one.

children are not adults. I am talking about not speaking over fucking adults when it comes to what they want to do with their life. no one sane would say that children working is a ‘right’ because we all know that it’s wrong, but no one sane says that prostitution has to be legal WITHOUT CHECKING OR WITHOUT LIMITS. or that porn industry has to be legal without checking. but one thing is STUFF FOR ADULTS MADE BY ADULTS WHO SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT/MAKE USE OF IT FREELY AND WITHOUT BEING COERCED, another is making children work when they haven’t developed the critical skill necessary to make life-altering decisions such as WHAT JOB DO YOU WANT. ffs I wouldn’t ask of a teenager to make life-altering decisions, but of an adult I would. I’m talking about adults. like sorry but according to your reasoning since democracy means that dumb people can vote for a dumb president (ie trump) we should all scrap it and go back to absolute monarchy because us illuminated people know better and people can’t choose whoever the fuck they vote for.

also, assuming that everyone selling sex is a victim automatically criminalizes it at least virtually because it’s automatically seen as a Bad Thing That Should Not Be Discussed Freely Because There’s Something Wrong With It and that’s how you get purity crusades. I don’t want purity crusades, nvm that you can’t fight coerced prostitution in germany the way you’d do it in thailand.

like, wow, I’m saying that people should be allowed to think for themselves but that’s somehow a privileged argument.

k anon, whatever you say. I like to think with my own head. because we start with this and then we end at ‘heterosexual women don’t know that they like dick because men brainwashed them into it and I, person who has never met you, know your own sexuality better than you’. and that turns into policing people’s sexuality. which then turns into the victorian age which then turns into puritanism and if you don’t see that there’s a problem with that, or you’d rather have puritanism than discuss about the best ways to make sure sex work is only available from people who actually actively chose to do it without pressure from anyone else, then I don’t have anything else to tell you.

also, this started from a post that was talking about PEOPLE WANTING TO POLICE WOMEN’S READING HABITS AND IT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH PROSTITUTION BUT IT HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH CALLING OUT A DAMAGING CURRENT OF RADICAL FEMINISM THAT’S EVERYTHING BUT SILENCED THESE DAYS, and the first place y’all went was ‘yes but radical feminism also fights prostitution so the concept isn’t wrong when applied to that but it is when applied to kinky fanfic because that’s not important enough’ like no one even brought it up can y’all just take a valid critic and think about it instead of bringing up crusades no one even asked for

and now I’m looking at the other ask I have in the inbox and then I’m going to bed because I have work tomorrow and I refuse to stay up until 2am having this discussion good lord don’t you know that when the government or the lawmakers start THINKING IN YOUR PLACE YOU GET A THING NAMED 1984 or have you not read that book in middle school

#jfc #GUYS CAN YOU FUCKING NOT #I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS #va bene va bene va bene in verità #e cristoddio mo anche basta #prostitution cw #Anonymous #ask post

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what do you think of all the women's marches happening all over the world?

good thing if it amounts to something.

meaning:

I’m awfully glad that like people are **protesting** when it comes to trump because one of the things that has always weirded me out re the US is the lack of... dunno, marching culture? strike culture? labor union culture? idk how to call it but like a significant amount of people marching to protest stuff is not what I remember from the iraq war, I don’t remember hearing of significant strikes when it comes to the wage issue and so on. so like anything that actually makes people go on the street and say that no they don’t like what’s going on is good because someplace where protests don’t happen is someplace where it’s easier for bad government X to do whatever it wants. one thing is trump doing whatever he wants to in order to promote his agenda, another is making him sweat it

also I have no issue with the fact that the whole thing was wired towards women’s rights because I mean if I was a woman in the US I’d be very worried rn

but

at the same time people need to understand that trump’s gonna be there for four years and when you’re into doing activism it doesn’t last one week and then goodbye, like you wanna oppose trump? great, then call your senator once every couple of days or whenever you need them to oppose something and make them aware of that, go down in the street whenever you can, don’t be an asshole and don’t disrupt things on purpose and don’t make yourself look like you’re looking for trouble because that’s what your opponents will want others to think and keep on fucking doing it. if this is OH LET’S ALL GO MARCH FOR A WEEK and then everyone is too busy or is like ‘well who cares it’s not eventually going to be a problem’ then it’s like.. all very noble but won’t bring any actual change

other than that it’d be nice to see people actually having a kind of program or better idea behind the marches rather than WE DON’T WANT THIS. I mean, back when I went marching against berlusconi the whole thing worked because behind the whole thing you had either the left party or the largest left trade union (like we have three huge unions that then have sub-unions for specific jobs) and it wasn’t just you and celebrities, it was you and politicians. who then went and did speeches at the end of the march and so on. like you can’t go around on your own thinking that it’s how you defeat the man. you defeat the man by working with the best part of the man available and I’d like to see that happening too, like you can’t just go and DEMAND CHANGE. (tldr: I mean, I’d like to see any politician going to these marches. sanders? clinton? idk but politicians could and should go to fucking marches esp if on the losing side)

and on top of that: I’ve seen a bunch of posts floating around on tumblr like ‘people saying peaceful protests are the way to go don’t understand that protest means disrupting so marches and strikes have to be disrupting’ which are 100% proof that people need more strike culture. as in (sorry if I sound like an asshole but I’ve been doing that shit since I was twelve and I think I know what I’m talking about): strikes have to be a nuisance, but not to the poor bastards who suffer the consequences, they have to be a nuisance to your employer. if you work in a factory and strike for better working conditions and stay home, your employer is damaged. if you strike and go plant yourself in the middle of the street forbidding other people from reaching their jobs and causing them to be in trouble in the workplace you’ll just make sure the other people hate you, and you don’t need your peers to hate you. you wanna protest against the police? do a sit in under your local police station, don’t block highways or the likes. also, here all marches that actually resulted in something were regularly authorized and planned - you go to the police, ask for permission to close the street X and Y on day X from this time to this other time and then go ahead and do it. on saturdays, so people from other cities might go - and that’s actually one thing those demonstration got right. you shouldn’t go march on like working days when people either have to work or will be hindered by your demonstration because like that you just lose sympathy and numbers. obviously since you had an entire party or union vouching for you no one would have dreamed of not giving you the permit to close the entire historical center and bring people there. like you have to go under trump’s nose every month with as many people as you like protesting whatever it is he’s doing specifically if you want this shit to work, and without going like IN ORDER TO SPARK REVOLUTIONS YOU HAVE TO BE VIOLENT AND DISRUPT THINGS. no, you have to be loud and calm and not being there to idk put dumpsters on fire so your regular trump voter will think you’re some kind of terrorist, and on top of that talk to other people for the love of god and explain them why trump is wrong instead of treating them like The Enemy TM or you’ll never gonna win any sympathy points

tldr: good intentions, good executions for now, will have to be re-done with a plan behind it and not just focusing on women regularly until trump’s there in order to be effective or it’s all going to be very nice and dandy but eventually it won’t amount to much, and if you want it to amount to something for the love of everything capitalize on it and do it often and with sense

and for the love of everything don’t try to play the revolutionaries because that’s the surest way for it to backfire

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