#Jessa and Ben

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Jessa Lost A Pregnancy.

Recently, Jessa posted a video on her YouTube, revealing that she’d been pregnant, but lost the pregnancy just before the holidays. Ultrasound images shared during the video reveal that she and Ben learned of the loss, which she called a “missed miscarriage,” on December 22, 2022, at 11 Weeks, 6 Days Along. Her Due Date was July 7, 2023. (So, no, this isn’t the elusive 29th GrandDuggar.)

According to the video, Jessa experienced a bit of spotting and went in for an ultrasound to check on the baby. During the ultrasound, the technician told them that “the sac looks good, but the baby does not.” Jessa did not elaborate on what was wrong. Since the miscarriage hadn’t begun naturally, she considered taking drugs to induce the miscarriage, but decided against it due to her history of hemorrhaging post–birth. She opted for a D&C instead, and seemingly had the procedure the same day (or very shortly after).

Data analysis to follow.

#pregnancy loss #Jessa and Ben

[fundiebabynamebible]

2022 Duggar Predictions Review

Michelle has been pretty quiet this year but the reason for this doesn't seem to have been leaked. Unfortunately no holiday to the clink for Jim Bob.

Thankfully Josh was sentenced to 12 years in jail with all appeals so far rejected. Anna has been very quiet, apart from hinting that there is more to the story (there isn't).

Another quiet year and no courtship for Jana.

We did get a pregnancy announcement (in late Spring, not summer), the baby was indeed a boy and Charlie arrived in September. There have been more trips this year to 'help' people around the world, including Ukraine.

Jill and Derick welcomed a baby boy, Frederick in July. Thankfully I was right and they opted for a planned c-section. Jill has been seen with the family but I don't think it's been at the TTH. Derick passed the bar and is now an attorney in Oklahoma and Arkansas. There haven't been hints of changing views as of yet but hopefully soon. No signs of starting school either but I think they will enrol the boys when they find the perfect school.

No dog and no pregnancy announcement. Lots of speculation though, especially recently.

They are releasing another book, Becoming Free Indeed, in January. Jinger and Jeremy are also moved house, albeit still in LA. No pregnancy announcement. Jeremy Vuolo is still Jeremy Vuolo's biggest fan. No trip to Arkansas but various family members have been to see them.

No pregnancy announcement as pretty much all Duggars are staying out of the limelight. Joe and Kendra did welcome another baby this year, confirmed through fine tuned snarking skills, and it's looking increasingly likely that it's a boy. No house move as far as we know.

Josiah and Lauren did welcome their second child, a girl named Daisy. It was confirmed through the church's Facebook page. Daisy is estimated to have been born in March.

I was off - but only by a few months. Joy is pregnant with her third child, a boy and due in May.

Indeed we did have the sex reveal in January. Baby Truett was born in May. Katey is currently pregnant with her second child, a girl named Nora Kate, and due in May. No attempts at politics. I guess it isn't the right time after recent events.

We still don't have confirmation on when they got engaged but they announced they were on 6th January. They married on 26th March, eight days before Jed and Katey's first anniversary. They didn't leave Arkansas and live in an RV. They are expecting to welcome their baby girl any day now.

It's been pretty quiet from everyone else, although whispers about courtships have circled.

#fundie #duggar family #fundie baby #fundie wedding #jill and derick #joe and kendra #josh and anna #josiah and lauren #john and abbie #jana duggar #jessa and ben #jinger and jeremy #joy and austin #jed and katey #jeremiah and hannah #justin and claire

[fundamental-cactus]

The Seewalds and Dillards attended Daxton King’s (cousin Amy’s son) birthday party. Jill, Jessa, Ivy, Spurgeon, and Fern were all easily visible. (Jessa did turn her head, but it was quick and hard to get a screenshot)

#jill and derick #jessa and ben #amy duggar king

[spurgie-cousin]

here's a ✨quick recap of the Jessa and Ben interview from the "Now That We're a Family" podcast✨for @undercoverduggarblog and anyone else who's curious if they spilled any tea.

I will say the couple who was interviewing them seemed to be the exact same flavor of fundamentalist as the Seewalds, so it was mostly the same cheesy fundie platitudes you hear in any "interview" the Duggars or similar fundies do. so this might be kind of short but there were a few interesting parts I'll highlight:

Jessa and Ben said that they were really focused on teaching catechism memorization to their kids, which I guess isn't super shocking information, I've just never heard anyone besides Catholics talk about catechisms lol. The Catholic Catechism for those who don't know is a separate thing from the Bible which kind of summarizes the principles of the religion, kind of like a cliff notes situation for all of Catholic theology. Other denominations usually focus more on individual stories from the Bible to summarize the principles of their faith, but according to Ben there is a Baptist Catechism too and the Seewald kids will be memorizing it. -

Ben says he was working for Jim Bob at the time he and Jessa got married doing lawn care, remodeling, and construction, idk if I knew that previously. He said he started tutoring Jessa's siblings after that, and now he's been a pastor for 4 years after doing an internship at his previous church. -

Jessa says some of the first conversations she had with Ben pre-relationship were about theology, and that she had been reading more about the Reformed tradition and practices at that time after talking to Ben. Ben says he got Jessa's phone number originally by asking Jim Bob if it was ok to talk to her about theology outside of church stuff. -

Both said even before marriage, they had a lot of disagreements theologically (obviously, bc Jessa was raised by Jim Bob and Michelle who basically made up their own version of Baptist). Ben says some of their biggest disagreements were on the topics of predestination (as we know, since he also got into it with JB over that), how God decides who should be saved, "The Atonement" which I assume just means Jesus dying for our sins (not sure what there is to argue about there), etc. He goes on to say he didn't see it as a deal breaker as far as courting Jessa because he was very into her, and also "a lot of Christians disagree on these topics", but he did want to try to eventually "figure it out". -

They say that they put the theological discussions on pause after Ben proposed. Jessa laughingly says "don't worry, we picked back up (after we were married)" and I guess for me personally I just don't understand how you can talk about these things SO much and never resolve them. Like how are you talking about predestination for MONTHS? and if you guys disagree about a subject to the point that your conversations end in anger and crying (i'll get to that soon) I don't understand not just agreeing to disagree. Honestly to me, it really sounds like Ben had a campaign from the beginning to change Jessa's mind about these things, which is good in some ways I guess bc he's slightly more progressive than she was raised, but still. It definitely feels like that was always the goal, to get Jessa to believe what Ben does, and I mean what other choice does she have in this world they live in but to give in? -

Ben says the theological differences really started bothering him after marriage (shocker). So they continued their arguments, Ben showed Jessa endless books and shit "proving" his points, and Jessa says she started to get pretty heated about their disagreements (at one point she says Ben was like "maybe we should just pray about this" to which she answered "you pray!!"). They both say they were never at the point of yelling, but Jessa would sometimes start crying out of frustration, as would Ben after seeing her cry, and they'd just end in the same place they started. Ben says he thought that if he just "presented a good argument" it would change Jessa's mind about these things they disagreed on and that he hadn't anticipated that they would struggle over this so much (have you met any Duggars, Ben??). -

Ben says that he realized these conversations weren't productive and that he wasn't "leading" Jessa well (🙄) so he started trying to diffuse hard conversations by being like "hey, let's drop this and go on a date", or doing something that would distract both of them before things got heated. -

Jessa says nowadays she agrees with Ben on more things and considers herself a four-point Calvinist. She says Ben used to have "hyper-Calvinist" tendencies and that he's chilled out a bit in that area (I don't know what she means by this lol). -

The couple who are interviewing them are also from big Christian families, and they ask Ben and Jessa if they ever get exhausted from trying to maintain so many relationships with both of their large groups of siblings, in addition to Ben's church members. Ben says yes, and that with Jessa's siblings (he specifically mentions hers and not his lol) there are just some that they see and have over a lot, and some they just "don't connect with as much" and don't see often. Jessa cuts him off here and says that her family does have weekly/monthly things they do where they see everyone. She also says there are certain family units that she and Ben try to connect with more than just at the big family gatherings (1. why'd she say it like that and 2. i wonder who 👀). Overall, Jessa says she always feels like she's not doing enough to maintain her relationships with all of her siblings and that it's a struggle. -

Ben and Jessa get asked about the time they take for just the two of them. Ben says they used to do a date night at least once a week, but that since having more kids there have been "seasons" where that hasn't happened (I'm so tired of hearing that word at this point in the interview). Nowadays they both say that they do maybe one or two date nights a month where they go out, and also a lot of at-home dates where they watch a movie or read together. The reading together sounds sweet don't get me wrong, but for me personally, I feel like I would be driven to insanity by taking turns reading aloud and not just getting to go at my own pace (I've got attention problems tho). -

The types of books they read together are also usually about theology (they just can't get enough). They say right now they're reading a book on prayer, and in the past they've read about things like Baptist Covenant Theology, which Jessa says "went over her head". The way Ben talks about it, I feel like the reading together thing is another attempt to sell Jessa on his beliefs (Ben seems super geeked about Calvinism). The interviewer husband says their reading together is good because it prevents them from developing separate world views from each other without the other one knowing (sounds threatening?). -

As far as the movies they watch for date night, Ben says "westerns, sci fi, something black and white". They say as far as morality and movies go, they're pretty similar on the things they "don't want to see" and they use those rating websites for parents to decide if a movie is "clean" enough for them to watch. Ben says he really loves fantasy, sci fi, and imaginative stuff whereas Jessa says jokingly that she prefers movies "with humans" or things like Dick van Dyke. Ben says he got Jessa to watch Star Wars once, which she describes as "everything I don't love", but she got into it a little bit by the end. They both like movies like Pride and Prejudice. -

The wife interviewer tells a weird story about how she and her sister got mad at their husbands for showing them Lord of the Rings because it's "creepy and weird"?? which I just included because of how egregious a statement that is lol. Ben defends Lord of the Rings and the interviewer husband says that he and Ben can appreciate fantasy bc they have the ability to think "deeper" than their wives (he's joking but it still made me mad). Jessa said she originally was worried that watching fantasy was dabbling in the occult and the other wife agrees. which isn't surprising but makes me sad.

#fundie podcasts #jessa seewald #ben seewald #Now That We're A Family #i need to figure out the deal of the couple that runs the pod

[countingandsnarkingon]

If y’all missed it Jessa finally confirmed the pregnancy. She released a YouTube video and it looks like they found out in April so, she’s probably due soon, November maybe?

#jessa and ben seewald #Baby Seewald 5 #hopefully she posts with a more definitive answer soon

[thefundiedata]

Family Overview | Jessa & Ben Seewald

Pre-Court: May 2013 Courtship: September 2013 Engagement: August 2014 Marriage: November 2014

Pre-Marriage Relationship Length: 538 days

Their Family: Spurgeon Elliot Seewald - 5th November 2015 Henry Wilberforce Seewald - 6th February 2017 Ivy Jane Seewald - 26th May 2019 Fern Elliana Seewald - 18th July 2021 George Augustine Seewald - 19th December 2023

So What's Next? Jessa and Ben are expected to announce Seewald 6 in December 2025 for a birth in May 2026.

#family overview #the duggars #jessa & ben

[wtffundiefamilies]

Also, I guessed George because I figured they'd name a kid after George Whitefield at some point.

...has she said who inspired his name? I'll be impressed with myself if I'm right.

#Jessa Duggar Seewald #Ben Seewald #George Seewald #duggar family #seewald family

[fundiepredictions]

Happy anniversary

Ben&Jessa Seewald (Duggar) celebrate their 9th anniversary today.

Since their weddingday they had four children, Spurgeon (7), Henry (6), Ivy (4) and Fern (2). Jessa is also pregnant with baby #5.

#fundie #anniversary #benseewald #jessa&ben #jessaseewaldduggar #seewald #duggar

[fundieshaderoom]

Jessa is NOT IBLP and still close with Jinger

#Jessa Duggar Seewald #Ben Seewald #IBLP #Jinger Duggar Vuolo

[potatoesandsunshine]

"i didn't come here to cause needless death" tallis you chose the wrong person to bring to this party

#major ben hassrath L honestly #jessa 'i'll kill anything' hawke

[duggardata]

We have more insight now into when Jessa Seewalds miscarriage (between ivy and fern) occurred. We can clearly see on her Father’s Day post that the photoshoot she posted January 6, 2021 was meant to be a baby announcement, as there is a photo of ben holding an early pregnant Jessas stomach

Huh, interesting! Checked out the Post. Photo in question is above. Not sure I agree that that the photoshoot was "clearly" intended as a pregnancy announcement—but, it's definitely possible and I can see why you think so. We also don't know when the photo was taken.

What do you guys think? It would definitely be helpful to have more data regarding Jessa's 2020 loss. We currently have no data.

#jessa and ben #pregnancy loss #new data

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#Celebrities #Jessa Duggar responds after fans hints husband Ben Seewald was ‘ignoring’ her during their anniversary dinner #Money #Motors #Politics #ShowBiz #Sport #Tech #UK #US #World

[duggarbatesfan]

Duggar Family Wedding Anniversaries November

Jessa and Ben Seewald: November 1st 2014: 8 years

John and Abbie Duggar: November 3rd 2018: 4 years

Jinger and Jeremy Vuolo: November 5th 2016: 6 years

#jessa and ben seewald #john and abbie duggar #jinger and jeremy vuolo #8 years #6 years #4 years #seewald family #duggar family #vuolo family #wedding anniversaries

[spurgie-cousin]

results are in and we're watching Jessa and Ben Seewald get interviewed by whoever the hell runs the "Now That We're A Family" podcast Sunday @ 8pm EST live at cultbookclub on tiktok

as always, you don't need a tiktok account to watch and i will share the link to watch a couple minutes beforehand here on tumblr 😊

#fundie podcasts #Saturday livestream #jessa seewald #ben seewald #cult book club

[countingandsnarkingon]

Jessa is pregnant. Baby Seewald 5 is on the way, due summer 2023

#ben and jessa sewald #Baby Seewald 5 #Youtube

[thefundiedata]

Upcoming Events - Bates and Duggars

Completely non-sims related. But I've been plugging the data we've got into my spreadsheet for the Bates and Duggars to see what else we might expect for 2023 and 2024 as I missed the incredible next 6 months DuggarData used to do for us. My data is nowhere near that complex or well sorted but fingers crossed it might scratch an itch!

Who's Late and What For?

Justin and Claire are late for baby 1. The Bates/Duggar average for first child is 352 days after marriage. This would have meant a due date of 13th February 2022.

Jinger and Jeremy are late for baby 3. The spreadsheet had her down for a baby on 13th March 2023. On Jinger's press tour, she said she was happy with her two girls and didn't see a problem with preventing pregnancy.

Lawson and Tiffany are late for baby 1. This was predicted for 29th April 2023.

Jana is (unsurprisingly) late for courtship. My data has her initial courtship down for 29th May 2011. It now has her down for +5 SD - 1st March 2025.

Jason is also late for courtship. He was predicted to enter into a pre-courtship on 22nd June 2022 and a courtship 12th November 2022. This has been moved to 2026 (+1 SD).

So... What's Happening in 2023?

We have two more 2023 babies we know of. Ryker Cruise and William Gage. Ryker is due 26th September 2023. Due to Erin's health conditions, it is likely William will be born early and my spreadsheet is expecting him 7th November 2023.

There is also one 2023 wedding on the cards. Jackson and Emerson are due to wed 14th October 2023.

There are only two 2023 prediction left in my spreadsheet. Jessa and Ben are due for baby 5 on the 17th November 2023. We'll see, there's been no announcement yet.

James is due to start a pre-courtship 7th September 2023 for a courtship on the 28th January 2024.

And What About 2024?

We already know of one 2024 baby - Josie B's third. (Predictor birth date is 19th February 2024) - this baby was late, spreadsheet was expecting baby 3 on the 28th January 2023. Josie has stated she used birth control.

The spreadsheet also expects the following babies:

Joe and Kendra #5 - 21st January 2024

Tori and Bobby #5 - 27th January 2024

Jeremiah and Hannah #2 - 9th August 2024

Jedidiah and Katey #3 - 29th August 2024

Jackson and Emerson #1 - 30th September 2024

Carlin and Evan #3 - 23rd October 2024

Nathan and Esther #2 - 5th December 2024

Katie and Travis aren't predicted until 2025 (25th April) but if I had to pick a non-predicted baby, it would be for these two.

Overall...

So, by the end of 2024 the predictor expects 6 more Grand-duggars for a total of 37. It expects 8 more Grand-bates for a total of 33.

There are a few more potential courtships when we look at family members beginning a pre-courtship 1 SD early - notably Warden (September 2023) and Addallee (April 2024) Bates, as well as Johannah Duggar (December 2023). All of these are due 2025 or later if they stay completely Bates / Duggar average. (Let's avoid more teen brides!)

#the duggars #the bates #josie & kelton #trace & lydia #erin & chad #jackson & emerson