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#Wilbur situation
arctasy · 2 months
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shelby’s recent statement on twitter
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alpacaattacka · 2 months
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So, I've seen a lot of people describing the Wilbur situation as like a car wreck or a fire or some other disaster that's destroying their community and I want to offer an alternative perspective.
To be clear: it hurts. It hurts like a bitch. It fucking sucks and it's awful and we all wish we weren't going through it and if you need to log off and throw a little baby tantrum about it, feel free. I've already done that a couple times.
But I think the pain is more like resetting a badly healed bone or cleaning an infected wound. It hurts, but the process is ultimately healing.
What we're going to be left with at the end of this process is a stronger community with one less abuser in it, maybe even more if more people feel empowered to come forward. Shelby wasn't the only person Wilbur hurt. Even if she had been, that would have been enough to justify getting rid of him, but she wasn't. There are so many people now who will be more comfortable and happier and safer in the community, which will be stronger and more open and more able to trust.
Is it going to hurt to get there? Yes. Does it hurt a lot right now? Yes. Would it have been a thousand times worse to let it fester for fear of that pain? Yes.
Cry about it all you need, but it's not a disaster. It's a surgery.
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tobi-smp · 2 months
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tumblr won't let me upload this directly to the post I want add this to, so I'm uploading tubbo's response to wilbur's so called "apology" here, sourced from this twitter post [Link]
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filthyjanuary · 2 months
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i've been talking about this with friends over discord but i really need to say it publicly that i think it is entirely unproductive to sift through years of old video footage to look for signs that wilbur was and is an abuser or run his statement through (very inaccurate) AI detectors to argue that a human didn't write it when it's just your average lawyered corpospeak
i think a lot of people, especially younger people in this fandom, feel blindsided and want to find some kind of secret damning evidence that was hiding in plain sight that they missed but that's just not how abuse works most of the time. abusers are people that can and often are perfectly pleasant to most people. there isn't some secret trick to detecting them around you. and while a lot of what we've seen can be recontextualized knowing what we know, it helps absolutely no one to work ourselves into a frenzy to pull out of context clips to paint a narrative of victimhood on every single person he's ever interacted with. there's stuff he's done on camera in the past that we can be uncomfortable with especially knowing what we know now but it is revisionist to act like the same acts people cooed over and called 'brotherly' 2 weeks ago are suddenly smoking guns of abuse.
wilbur is not some disney supervillain who is rotten down to his core he's a human person who definitely wrote or got his team to write his shitty apology and definitely manipulated the people around him but there isn't some film reel of his abuse that we can play or people can look to to say they somehow knew he was a bad person all along
we have actual stories from actual victims to uplift and focus on, we don't need to dig for more things and slap a victim label on people who have not come forward to do so themselves and if they do come forward we can support them then but for the love of god can we stop circulating clips of wilbur and tommy's staged antics or wilbur yelling during mcc
all my love to shelby shubble and everyone else who is affected by this man's actions and is now being exposed to some of the most infuriating discourse conceivable. and fuck that man sincerely.
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death-himself · 2 months
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reminder to anyone using spotify that you can remove an artist’s songs from all of your playlists easily by going to the artist’s page and tapping “don’t play this artist”
i say this as someone who put lovejoy on like 20 different playlists who didn’t know that feature existed until now
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give-grian-rights · 2 months
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hey guys how SHITTY OF A RESPONSE do you have to make, for DreamWasTaken to make a better statement than you? x
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i always thought of Wilbur as a fantastic writer and how the fuck did this guy MAKE SUCH A BAD STATEMENT that he got upstaged by DREAM??
This is one of the best things i've ever seen come from Dream. Words, actions, and intent, and to have someone who, for better or worse, has such a big platform support Shelby is just amazing to see.
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productofaritual · 2 months
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I have one last thing to say before I stop talking about the situation and go back to my regularly scheduled shitposts
Imagine fucking up SO BAD that you get Billzo to come back, Dream stans agreeing with Tommy stans and your own update accounts posting about how fucked up you are
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shelbyshubbleismywife · 2 months
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This blog used to be titled wilbursootismywife I am now changing it bc I'm Gay and fuck that guy Shelby ily you're so pretty :)
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mothmothwoth · 2 months
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so with the Wilbur situation happening and more people talking about Shubble I thought it’d be a good time to recommend and talk about Shubble stuff that I’ve loved and have lived rent free in my head for years. (All of which are older stuff, Shubble was my jam like 6 years ago)
Agents - This is a series that started out as the typical comedy bit where Shelby and their friend Max (Mithzan) pretend to be Secret agents on a mission. They play old Minecraft mini games and challenges and are just a really funny duo together and they play off really well. However they start to incorporate lore and returning characters into the videos which create an overarching story to the Agents series. The original series that came out in 2016 (ish?) Ends with the end of the world and many mysteries unexplained. However there is a prequel series Shubble made after the Original Agents which explore Agent Shed and Zeds backstory, how they met, and gives Shelby’s love interest (Death (or well actually its deaths son?? In the prequel he hasn’t taken over for his father yet) also yes Shelbys character has a crush thing on death) a personality and character as well. I loved this thing, honestly I still do love this series it’s silly and the mystery made me lose it as a kid. It honestly is still my jam I will most likely rewatch this one soon.
Mystery Hotel - This is a roleplay mystery series Shubble did that has less of the comedy and buddy cop duo of Agents but more story and an almost haunting vibe. It has Shelby as a person walking into a hotel hoping to get a room to crash for the night and being trapped in the hotel and the other guests rooms. The guests are all her friends and they play games and challenges and when they succeed the guests are free from their rooms. This one is more actually one off than agents but it has a really nice vibe and the people all seem to be having a good time doing this. There is also a heavy sprinkle of lore between the fun so it leaves you with questions and wanting to find out more. I honestly do not remember the ending because I watched it when it came out and it was a long time ago.
Shelby almost dies in a stairwell - This story time video has been in my head for 7 years. I NEED to tell someone about this. Shelby got trapped in the stairwell and this is her video about that. This video turned me off of conventions forever and gave me permanent paranoia of being stuck in a stairwell. I think I watched this video like 18 times when I first saw it and I cannot tell you why. AND THEN IT HAPPENED AGAIN. I cannot explain why these videos are so special to me they just are. Someone please tell me you share the experience of watching these I’m going to lose my mind.
but anyways Go watch Shubble they are silly, go watch her new content. Just. go bananas. Support Shubble (thumbs up)
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wooburi · 2 months
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Support the victim guys
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kaz-oooo · 2 months
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Anyway, who wants some “different fucking songs”?
I made another post listing a bunch of different artist that had similar vibes to Wilbur and Lovejoy’s music. But I also got bored and made a playlist which.. I find a lot easier to look through than a list of artists so.. here’s some links to playlists I made
I’ll be honest, these are all pretty messy atm, I started making these last night and they still need a bit of work, but it’s a start :).
I’m just one person, I can’t listen to *all* the songs in the world so if you guys have suggestions (especially for the e-girl playlist, I don’t listen to much comedy music!!) feel free to make suggestions :) I’m gonna go through the tags on my last post and other suggestions people have made elsewhere when I get home from work and add those.
(Also disclaimer, some of these songs are about abuse, shitty relationships and stuff like that, just something to keep in mind)
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kaisoonomu · 2 months
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he even woke up billzo from his hibernation
GET HIS ASS
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things that do not cause abuse:
-being male
-being a man
-being a straight white man specifically
-being mentally ill
-being an ontologically evil person who can never not be evil and who everyone should have known was evil the whole time
things that cause abuse:
-repeated refusal to respect other peoples' boundaries, needs, and trust
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the-asexual-winter · 2 months
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A group of friends sat around,
Playing games, fun galore.
Through roleplay and through music,
Never barred was any door.
At the time they seemed invincible,
And Yet There Were Four
The Blade sharp as ever,
In the daylight it gleamed.
But rusted from within,
It was not to be.
The Warrior's crown was passed on,
And Then There Were Three
The silent gathered strength,
And they'd take no more, they knew.
For their words shattered the silence,
And forever changed the view.
The Poet's silver tongue was tarnished
And Then There Were Two
Now the Boy and the Crow,
They are all that remain.
How much longer they'll be spared, I wonder,
From this sad refrain.
As this lament draws to a close,
A final message for the crowd.
Support Shelby and others like her,
For they've the strength to speak aloud.
--Lament for the Sleeping
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bemboob · 2 months
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yes, minecraft youtube is going to shit right now. but dsmp and qsmp ≠ mcyt.
i don’t want to see people saying “all minecraft youtubers are freaks, abusers or pedos”.
yes, some are. you’ll find that in any group of people. it’s sickening that they happen to be in a group where lots of younger audiences congregate. but generalising them as a mcyt fan yourself, saying that all the content creators are bad - it doesn’t do any favours to the general public view of mcyt.
hermitcraft members deserve better than that. people like the hermitcraft people, lizzie, scott, shelby, fwhip, sausage. the people who are actually safe for children, the people who pioneered mcyt.
they did nothing wrong. they don’t deserve that generalisation. most of them are married or in long term relationships, and many of them have children, daughters of their own.
it’s not fair to them or their fans to generalise.
acting as though these two groups - the dsmp side of mcyt vs. the hermitcraft/pg side are one and the same, is a disservice.
plus some of the hermits literally have openly disliked dteam long before any allegations of any kind came out LMAOO
** please don’t take this as me acting as though the other mcyt are the victims in this situation. they’re not. support the real victims of abuse. what i’m pointing out is an unfortunate side product of these situations that are exacerbated by both fans and non fans.
also edit: ive read some of ur comments abt the fact that them having kids does not mean they aren't abusers. this is unfortunately true. it's not really what i meant, although reading this post back, it certainly comes across that way. i more mean that it's not fair to cc's kids or spouses to see that they are being painted as abusers when they potentially aren't. seeing that could really mess a person up.
also yes. do not put any creator on a pedestal. i personally admire many of the content creators on hermitcraft for their creativity, humor, personality, etc. they have traits that are admirable about each of them. but if anything credible comes out, i'd immediately drop them. i don't care if they saved my life, if i watch them every single day, i drop them. doing anything else is unhealthy.
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