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Ancient Woman Thunderdome 2023
FINAL ROUND (Round 6): Atalanta vs. Medea!
The rules: Vote based on who would win in a fight, NOT who you like more. Consider factors such as physical prowess, intelligence or cunning, and magical ability.
If the character has multiple non-godly forms, consider the one you believe to be more powerful. If the character is a goddess for a portion of their life, please only consider their mortal or non-godly form.
The fighters:
Fighter: Atalanta Source(s): Apollodorus's Library, Ovid's Metamorphoses, various other mythological sources Bio: Atalanta was a huntress associated with Artemis. She was a virgin who lived in the wilderness, and at one point killed two centaurs who tried to rape her. She may or may not have sailed and fought with the Argonauts, and defeated Peleus in a wrestling match at Pelias's funeral games. When Artemis sent a boar to Calydon to punish the king for not sacrificing to her, Atalanta joined the hunt and drew first blood. Later, her father found her and tried to get her to marry. Atalanta, knowing she was faster than just about anyone, said she would marry anyone who could beat her in a footrace, but if the suitor lost, he would be killed. Many men were killed, until Hippomenes prayed to Aphrodite and received three golden apples, which he threw to the side during the race to distract her. She did marry him, and, after she bore his child, they were both turned into lions in retaliation for having sex in a sacred area.
Fighter: Medea Source(s): Apollonius of Rhodes' Argonautica, Euripides' Medea, various other mythological sources Bio: Medea was a sorceress from Colchis, where the golden fleece was housed. When Jason arrived in pursuit of the fleece, Hera wanted to help him, so she got Aphrodite to make Medea fall in love with him because she knew Medea had skills that would be useful. Medea did help, in exchange for Jason's hand in marriage: she used her magic and knowledge to protect him through the tasks the king had him complete to get the golden fleece, and then when it turned out the king didn't plan to give Jason the fleece, Medea put the dragon guarding the fleece to sleep while Jason stole it. She then joined Jason and the Argonauts in flight. When the Argo was caught by Medea's half-brother, Apsyrtus, Medea tricked him into a trap so Jason could kill him. When they returned from their voyage, Jason was meant to trade the golden fleece for the king Pelias's throne, but he wouldn't give up the throne; Medea then tricked his daughters into killing him by telling them that if they cut him into pieces, she could bring him back to life. From there, she and Jason fled to Corinth, where they lived for some time before Jason decided he wanted to marry another woman, Glauce, the daughter of the king (Creon). Creon exiled her, and so Medea went to Athens and got Aegeus, the king there, to let her stay. She then called Jason to her, apologized for her reaction to his desire to marry someone else, and asked if her children could give Glauce gifts as an apology. The gifts, a robe and crown, were poisoned, and killed not only Glauce but also Creon when he tried to save her. She then killed both her children in an attempt to hurt Jason.
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ANCIENT WOMAN THUNDERDOME 2023: Official Bracket!!
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we have our final matches! clytemnestra, medea, antigone, and penelope are our most suggested, with honorable mentions to electra, circe, helen, and atalanta. i've seeded according to how many times each one was suggested, with more popular candidates going against less popular in the first round. HOWEVER, this is not a popularity contest! this is WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT. please vote accordingly, with consideration of physical strength, mental acuity, and magical ability.
the first round matches are as follows (note: where people suggested a group, ie. maenads, sirens, i'm acting as if one representative from that group is in the fight):
Clytemnestra vs. Niobe Electra vs. Iphis Chrysothemis vs. Cassiopeia Iphigenia vs. Semele Procne vs. Creusa Callisto vs. Europa Daphne vs. Lysistrata Philomela vs. Andromeda
Penelope vs. Antiope Atalanta vs. Stheno Dido vs. Lavinia Penthesilea vs. Nausicaä Camilla vs. Anna Briseis vs. Lesbia Agave vs. Chryseis Phaedra vs. Charybdis
Antigone vs. one of Hephaestus' "golden fembots" Helen vs. Deianeira Ariadne vs. Eurydice (from Antigone) Hecuba vs. Iambe Andromache vs. Echo Eurydice (Orpheus' love) vs. Psyche Ismene vs. Tiresias Jocasta vs. Scylla
Medea vs. a siren Circe vs. Cressida Cassandra vs. Leda Medusa vs. a maenad Hippolyta vs. Galatea Arachne vs. Pasiphae Pandora vs. Danae Io vs. Calypso
i'm hoping to start the matches next week. the first round will be four polls a day for eight days; polls will last for one day until we get to round four with eight competitors/four matchups (at which point the polls will last a week).
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unless i read it wrong, i think europa has a pretty strong chance. she fucked that bull and lived, so i think that if this match involves the two contestants having sex europa is bound to win
okay new poll
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now the poll is over i can finally say that everyone in the notes of the clytemnestra vs electra poll being like "why is clytemnestra winning electra literally won" was neglecting the fact that electra didn't kill clytemnestra! orestes killed clytemnestra! i stand by electra generally speaking but like one of them strangled her husband in the bath and the other one waited years for her brother to come back so she could assist in the matricide. there are plenty of narrative reasons for this but if you ignore that and put those two people in the thunderdome the one who actually did the murder is going to come out on top.
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by the way would it be interesting if i like. posted who i voted for in each fight and why. maybe after the fight was over so it didn't influence people?
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hi everyone. please fill out this survey for ancient woman thunderdome purposes. if we don't get enough responses i will be padding the bracket with as many tragic heroines as i can find.
survey here
(it just asks who you would like to see on an ancient greek/roman woman "who would win in a fight" bracket and also if you have any other input. you can skip any of the questions.)
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all right i have been slacking (read: focusing all my energy into moving and other life stuff) BUT. final round of the ancient woman thunderdome will start TOMORROW. get ready.
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won't give my opinion on who would win until the poll is over but i do think the antigone vs helen fight is a case where gay sex is happening in the thunderdome
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LAST DAY TO VOTE IN THE ANCIENT WOMAN THUNDERDOME SEMIFINALS
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Ancient Woman Thunderdome 2023
Round 5 (SEMIFINAL) Match 2: Scylla vs. Medea!
The rules: Vote based on who would win in a fight, NOT who you like more. Consider factors such as physical prowess, intelligence or cunning, and magical ability.
If the character has multiple non-godly forms, consider the one you believe to be more powerful. If the character is a goddess for a portion of their life, please only consider their mortal or non-godly form.
The fighters:
Fighter: Scylla Source(s): Homer's Odyssey, Virgil's Aeneid, Ovid's Metamorphoses, various other mythological sources Bio: Scylla was originally a woman. She was loved by Glaucus, but she didn't love him back; he went to Circe, asking for a love potion, but Circe fell in love with Glaucus, and instead of giving him a potion, she poisoned Scylla's bathwater so that when she went to bathe, she turned into a monster with dogs coming from her thighs. She lived across a narrow channel from Charybdis, creating a difficult passage for any sailors.
Fighter: Medea Source(s): Apollonius of Rhodes' Argonautica, Euripides' Medea, various other mythological sources Bio: Medea was a sorceress from Colchis, where the golden fleece was housed. When Jason arrived in pursuit of the fleece, Hera wanted to help him, so she got Aphrodite to make Medea fall in love with him because she knew Medea had skills that would be useful. Medea did help, in exchange for Jason's hand in marriage: she used her magic and knowledge to protect him through the tasks the king had him complete to get the golden fleece, and then when it turned out the king didn't plan to give Jason the fleece, Medea put the dragon guarding the fleece to sleep while Jason stole it. She then joined Jason and the Argonauts in flight. When the Argo was caught by Medea's half-brother, Apsyrtus, Medea tricked him into a trap so Jason could kill him. When they returned from their voyage, Jason was meant to trade the golden fleece for the king Pelias's throne, but he wouldn't give up the throne; Medea then tricked his daughters into killing him by telling them that if they cut him into pieces, she could bring him back to life. From there, she and Jason fled to Corinth, where they lived for some time before Jason decided he wanted to marry another woman, Glauce, the daughter of the king (Creon). Creon exiled her, and so Medea went to Athens and got Aegeus, the king there, to let her stay. She then called Jason to her, apologized for her reaction to his desire to marry someone else, and asked if her children could give Glauce gifts as an apology. The gifts, a robe and crown, were poisoned, and killed not only Glauce but also Creon when he tried to save her. She then killed both her children in an attempt to hurt Jason.
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Ancient Woman Thunderdome 2023
Round 5 (SEMIFINAL) Match 1: Clytemnestra vs. Atalanta!
The rules: Vote based on who would win in a fight, NOT who you like more. Consider factors such as physical prowess, intelligence or cunning, and magical ability.
If the character has multiple non-godly forms, consider the one you believe to be more powerful. If the character is a goddess for a portion of their life, please only consider their mortal or non-godly form.
The fighters:
Fighter: Clytemnestra Source(s): Aeschylus's Oresteia, Sophocles' Electra, Euripides' Electra Bio: Clytemnestra is known for being Helen's sister, Agamemnon's wife, and for murdering her husband immediately after his triumphant return from the Trojan War, having waited ten years to get her revenge on him for sacrificing their daughter, Iphigenia, to Artemis.
Fighter: Atalanta Source(s): Apollodorus's Library, Ovid's Metamorphoses, various other mythological sources Bio: Atalanta was a huntress associated with Artemis. She was a virgin who lived in the wilderness, and at one point killed two centaurs who tried to rape her. She may or may not have sailed and fought with the Argonauts, and defeated Peleus in a wrestling match at Pelias's funeral games. When Artemis sent a boar to Calydon to punish the king for not sacrificing to her, Atalanta joined the hunt and drew first blood. Later, her father found her and tried to get her to marry. Atalanta, knowing she was faster than just about anyone, said she would marry anyone who could beat her in a footrace, but if the suitor lost, he would be killed. Many men were killed, until Hippomenes prayed to Aphrodite and received three golden apples, which he threw to the side during the race to distract her. She did marry him, and, after she bore his child, they were both turned into lions in retaliation for having sex in a sacred area.
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Ancient Woman Thunderdome 2023
Round 4 (QUARTERFINAL) Match 1: Clytemnestra vs. Callisto!
The rules: Vote based on who would win in a fight, NOT who you like more. Consider factors such as physical prowess, intelligence or cunning, and magical ability.
If the character has multiple non-godly forms, consider the one you believe to be more powerful. If the character is a goddess for a portion of their life, please only consider their mortal or non-godly form.
The fighters:
Fighter: Clytemnestra Source(s): Aeschylus's Oresteia, Sophocles' Electra, Euripides' Electra Bio: Clytemnestra is known for being Helen's sister, Agamemnon's wife, and for murdering her husband immediately after his triumphant return from the Trojan War, having waited ten years to get her revenge on him for sacrificing their daughter, Iphigenia, to Artemis.
Fighter: Callisto Source(s): Various mythological sources, Ovid's Metamorphoses Bio: Callisto was one of Artemis's nymphs, which meant she had sworn to never get with a man. Unfortunately, Zeus didn't care about that kind of thing, and got her pregnant (whether or not this was consensual varies by source). Sources disagree on who exactly turned her into a bear and why (Artemis did it out of anger at finding her pregnant, or Hera did it out of jealousy...), but everyone agrees that she she turned into a bear and had a child, not necessarily in that order. Sources also disagree on whether it was her son or Artemis who nearly killed her, but it doesn't matter, because Zeus put both her and her son into the sky as Ursa Major and Ursa Minor.
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also. i know i need to finish the ancient women poll. we have two week-long rounds left. i think i am going to start the next one on saturday. everyone get ready
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when the polls are over do people want like. a four-way who would win poll between the semifinalists? like... if you put all of them in a ring?
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look i have another 50 spam blogs to block but in the meantime what if i ran a tragic woman bracket. or maybe a greek myth/literature woman bracket. or an ancient woman bracket.
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Ancient Woman Thunderdome 2023
Round 4 (QUARTERFINAL) Match 4: Medea vs. Hippolyta!
The rules: Vote based on who would win in a fight, NOT who you like more. Consider factors such as physical prowess, intelligence or cunning, and magical ability.
If the character has multiple non-godly forms, consider the one you believe to be more powerful. If the character is a goddess for a portion of their life, please only consider their mortal or non-godly form.
The fighters:
Fighter: Medea Source(s): Apollonius of Rhodes' Argonautica, Euripides' Medea, various other mythological sources Bio: Medea was a sorceress from Colchis, where the golden fleece was housed. When Jason arrived in pursuit of the fleece, Hera wanted to help him, so she got Aphrodite to make Medea fall in love with him because she knew Medea had skills that would be useful. Medea did help, in exchange for Jason's hand in marriage: she used her magic and knowledge to protect him through the tasks the king had him complete to get the golden fleece, and then when it turned out the king didn't plan to give Jason the fleece, Medea put the dragon guarding the fleece to sleep while Jason stole it. She then joined Jason and the Argonauts in flight. When the Argo was caught by Medea's half-brother, Apsyrtus, Medea tricked him into a trap so Jason could kill him. When they returned from their voyage, Jason was meant to trade the golden fleece for the king Pelias's throne, but he wouldn't give up the throne; Medea then tricked his daughters into killing him by telling them that if they cut him into pieces, she could bring him back to life. From there, she and Jason fled to Corinth, where they lived for some time before Jason decided he wanted to marry another woman, Glauce, the daughter of the king (Creon). Creon exiled her, and so Medea went to Athens and got Aegeus, the king there, to let her stay. She then called Jason to her, apologized for her reaction to his desire to marry someone else, and asked if her children could give Glauce gifts as an apology. The gifts, a robe and crown, were poisoned, and killed not only Glauce but also Creon when he tried to save her. She then killed both her children in an attempt to hurt Jason.
Fighter: Hippolyta Source(s): Various mythological sources Bio: Hippolyta was a queen of the Amazons. For Heracles' ninth labor, he was supposed to steal her belt; Hippolyta gave him the belt, but then Hera tricked the Amazons into thinking Heracles was kidnapping her, and the Amazons attacked his ship. In some sources, Hippolyta died in the resulting conflict; in others, she wound up meeting and marrying Theseus and died later, in a conflict between the Amazons and Theseus.
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