#and if we want them again then we'll have to go through another rendition more likely than not

[centi-pedve]

As a state, how do (or would) you treat your citizenry btw? 👁️ I was meaning to ask this to your kin account, but couldn’t find it. Whoops.

Normal answer: pretty much in line with the political ideals we try to represent! While we fantasize a lot about being the epitome of totalitarianism, if we actually had the capabilities and status of a sentient state then we would like to think we'd do good. essentially hyper-progressivism with a focus on domestic wellbeing. sorry for being lame we like love and friendship and shit like that

Abnormal answer: impossible to know because the whole connor facet would probably take a much different form after another transfer :p it's all about context and how we see the world in whatever form we're in. in our last rendition we took on much different names and appearances and priorities, so if we're able to reach another rendition then that would happen again, and we can't reach legitimate statehood in this rendition.

#we shall give normal answers when needed for simplicity's sake but #we're very particular about technicalities if that is not glaringly obvious #this post used to be like 10 paragraphs! everyone say thank you connor for making it 2 #it also used to be color coded because it got a bit convoluted but we supposed the idea could come across without a full explanation #also to complicate the premise of How We Would Treat People #we're not sure yet whether or not different renditions exist in different universes #but if they do then that would probably! impact things. lol #centikinning #lmfao so basically in our last rendition we had citizens but in this one we dont. #and if we want them again then we'll have to go through another rendition more likely than not #this is the loser rendition for losers #as punishment for being bad at state stuff the last time #aheem heem

[crestfallercanyon]

I got tagged in some questions from @callivich and while I didn't answer all of them, I've got some! (I also kept these answers Ian Gallagher/Mickey Milkovich centric, though I did have a couple thoughts about just the show generally haha). Anyway --

What’s a fic you’ve read more than once? makes a cathedral, him pressing against me and then the companion piece and we will be like sailors, swimming in the sound of it by misandrywitch and intimatelyrearranged respectively -- they're just really good post-mickey's-coming-out-fics which I tend to love every rendition but those ones are really good (also I, like many tumblr people, love richard siken, so it had me hooked from the start)

What’s a headcanon you can’t stop thinking about? I love the idea that Ian gets really into photography. I think when he's settled in life he takes a lot of photos He's a sentimental guy, I think he's someone who would definitely have photos of his family in his wallet, and would just love taking pictures. (I also like the idea of when he is struggling, maybe going through a manic phase, this propensity to take photos is helpful for his family to find him and figure out what mental state he's in because the photos are kind of all over the place or of things that aren't there). And then ever since finding out Noel Fisher actually plays the piano, I love the idea that Mickey always wanted to play piano. (and that after expressing this desire that was when Terry tattooed his knuckles as an attempt to quash this dream). It's something I may explore in a fic later on.

What’s an idea you’d love to create if you had the time/inspiration? I have a bajillion but we'll stick with two that I'm not actually currently trying to write -- Kind of a strange idea, but I loved -- especially earliest seasons -- Sheila Jackson. Her struggle with agoraphobia was really heartwrenching (I love the scene where she finally leaves the house for the first time both for Liam and for Karen -- she's just someone who I rooted for then so uncomplicatedly). Anyway, I have an idea where Mickey, before Terry's dead but maybe safely with the Gallaghers, starts to develop agoraphobia like Sheila Jackson had. He finally feels safe at home and he starts to really fear the outside world, and it sneaks up on him, because he's supposed to be fine right? But he's not. He keeps repressing this fear and now it's coming out in this way of being unable to leave the house. And Ian -- from Fiona -- thinks to call Sheila Jackson. With Sheila's help, Ian and her and Mickey actually have interactions. I just think it'd be a really interesting dynamic, because Sheila was so motherly and kind and Mickey I think would hate that at first, but it's also kind of the care he should have had? Anyways, it's strange, but I'd love to explore it. The other one I have is a North American Western Au. Usually I don't write modern-world-setting canon in other contexts but for gallavich I have ideas. And I love western aus, I've written one for another fandoms, it's just fun. Maybe a small town where Ian was a sheriff but he struggles with his disorder and so he resigned; and then Mickey is part of the Milkovich gang that's raising hell all throughout the state but ends up finding Ian and... well if I ever actually write it you'll see.

What’s a plot hole you wish had been answered or resolved? I just wish the show would talk about characters that left more often. Or things that happened in their past more often. The only one they seemed to have done a decent job with in the beginning is Jimmy-Steve. But like, why the heck don't they mention Mandy? Or Karen? Or... ANYONE? That and there are events that should absolutely be referenced again. All of the shit with 3.6 at some point could probably use a rehash of trying to process that trauma. The characters talk a bit about what happened with Monica, or Fiona when Ian and Lip were kids, in later seasons they should be telling the stories of what happened in the early seasons to Liam or Carl or Franny or whoever. I understand many shows drop things for sake of the future plots, but as Shameless is a family drama, things that are dramatic in the family I think could have maintained their relevance for longer. Especially since Shameless has such a brilliant focus on generational trauma and how the kids are, in many ways, going to become their parents in some aspects (but how much so is up to them) it would have been neat for them to actually discuss some of the scars they earned during the show.

What scene or moment do you feel isn’t discussed enough? I don't know how much more it could be discussed, but I want to discuss it lmao -- but when Mickey says "missed ya", with the cigarette in his mouth and Ian responds with "really?" To me, it's the first time that Mickey says something real to Ian about their relationship, really the first acknowledgment that there's something to miss. He says this, and it's something he's said with no ulterior motive that he knows will make Ian happy, really for only the sake of making Ian happy. It will probably get him laid because this is Ian and they're both horny teenagers, but there's no guarantee, and that's clearly not why he's saying it. The best part of the interaction, though? The way Mickey smiles because he knows Ian's going to be thrilled. That like preemptive "watch this" and then he says it. I just, there's something really sweet about the interaction in a way that Mickey never let himself be previously.

What line/dialogue/description from something else (a poem, a book, a tv show, a movie, or something else) do you feel describes Ian and Mickey’s relationship? There's also a song aptly named "Goodnight Chicago" by Rainbow Kitten Surprise that immediately had me thinking about these two. Here's one verse: "...I killed a man there, in spite, and when he died, I took his place/eighteen made you callous to the kisses that you gave/a course exchange, a cause for blame, and I stood out in the rain/You killed a man there, and I cried, but the rain masked the hurt behind your face/by the way dear, we're alive, and it hurts 'cause we survived."

I'm going to leave this as an open tag and also reference the original questions from callivich because there's some great ones! I did a reblog because I figured this would be overwhelming if I answered on their asks. But please go ahead and answer and hope you enjoyed what you've read here lol. <3

#shameless #shameless (us) #tag game #ian gallagher #mickey milkovich #gallavich

[piccolina-mina]

Pod Squad & Friends on Movie Night

Max [shoving Michael's feet off of the coffee table]: I still don't know why we always have to do it here.

Michael [taking a swig of beer and placing the bottle 5 inches away from the coaster Max set out for him]: You have the nicest place.

Max [placing Michael's bottle on the coaster]: Kyle has a nice place.

Kyle: Like hell am I letting all of you anywhere near my apartment.

Isobel: I used to have a nice place.

Rosa: Really? I used to be dead.

Liz: Alright, so no movies about resurrection then.

Rosa [smiles at Max "sweetly"]: Damn. I was going to suggest The Passion of the Christ.

Alex: *snorts*

Liz: Please don't encourage her. OK, and definitely no --

Everyone: No aliens!

Isobel: Shame though. I was going to suggest Independence Day.

Everyone: *glares*

Isobel: I meant the recent one. Rosa hasn't seen it yet. Touchy.

Max: I was thinking -

Alex: Aw hell. Here we go.

Kyle: Max, buddy. Maybe we should lay off of the, uh --

Rosa: Look, Alien Jesus. No one is sitting through Sense and Sensibility again.

Alex: Or any rendition of Pride and Prejudice, man.

Liz [hesitantly]: Or My Fair Lady.

Max [affronted]: I was ... *mumbles* going to say Pretty Woman.

Isobel: I can watch Pretty Woman! Richard Gere and Julia Roberts? So much eye candy.

Michael: I mean, fair, but no. No more chick flicks.

Max: Not even Hallmark movies?

Kyle: You will not make me sit through that drivel. I refuse.

Maria, Liz, Max: Hey! Wait a minute! Now, hold on a second ...

Isobel: Fine. Let's just watch one of those stupid superhero movies. Spiderman or something.

Kyle: Yeah, Spiderman! That's ... that's good.

Alex *dubious*: Is it Kyle? Which Spiderman?

Kyle: Um, Tom ...

Alex *perks up*: Yeah?

Kyle: MaGuire?

Alex: Seriously? You're f**cking hopeless. We're talking about this later.

Max: Spiderman Into the Universe was a fantastic film.

Everyone: *looks at Max surprised*

Max: What?

Alex: Finally, someone with taste.

Maria: Tobey MaGuire was a cute spiderman. I like those ones.

Alex: What? Everyone knows Tom Holland is the superior Spiderman!

Rosa: Spiderboy maybe.

Alex: *growls*

Rosa: The kid is, like, ten.

Alex: So are you!

Michael *eating all the popcorn that has since gone cold*: Maybe we don't need a movie tonight. This is pretty damn entertaining.

Maria *steals the bowl of popcorn*: Wakanda forever!

Kyle: Wait, I feel like I'm supposed to know that one.

Isobel: Is it a foreign film? I love foreign films. We need to watch more of those.

Maria *blinks*: Goddess, I need more black friends.

Rosa *mumbles*: I don't disagree.

Alex *snags a handful of popcorn from the bowl in Maria's lap*: I told you. Lost causes. We'll watch Black Panther again later.

Isobel *ignoring all of them*: Run Lola Run is a masterpiece.

Liz: It is a masterful film.

Max *raises hand sheepishly*: I vote for that.

Michael *rolls eyes*: Of course you do.

Max *slowly puts hand down and sighs*: I'm going to find more snacks then.

Michael *calls out*: By the way, you need to restock those pizza things. Oh, and the TV dinners. Oh yeah, and I think I ate the last bag of potato chips, but can you not get kettle chips next time?

Max: *gives Michael a dirty and rants about the grocery costs*

Alex: If we're watching Run Lola Run, then we're watching Star Wars next time. It's only fair.

Rosa *sighs*: I'm surrounded by dorks. I can't keep doing this. How about a comedy?

Michael: Now you're speaking my language. How about -

Maria: Guerin, I'm not sitting though another film with Adam Sandler. It's not gonna happen.

Michael: Chill, DeLuca, I was going to say --

Liz: No Will Ferrell either, Mikey. Fart jokes and *gestures* middle school boy humor is not funny. Sorry.

Kyle: Wait, the brillo pad may be on to something.

Michael: *flips Kyle the bird, levitates Kyle's last chip into his mouth, and smirks at an annoyed Kyle*

Isobel: I actually agree with Liz here. Juvenile humor isn't funny.

Michael *grumbles*: Killjoys.

Rosa [under her breath]: Interesting choice of words.

Alex *chuckles*: You're on fire today.

Rosa: Funny you should say that--

Kyle: Anyway, I'm thinking action here, guys. It's the easiest and most agreeable option.

Alex: Shocker. You're always thinking action.

Isobel: Kyle, I don't care how distracting your face is, you will not convince me to sit through the entire Fast and Furious series. Why the f**k are there so many movies anyway? I swear if I have to watch one more I'm going to kil-

Rosa: *raises her brow*

Isobel: Kick somebody's ass!

Kyle: How about Creed?

Maria: You had me at Michael B Jordan.

Rosa: Tessa Thompson.

Michael: Sly Stallone.... I mean, because he's a living legend.

Isobel: If I wanted to watch sweaty guys pummeling each other, I would go out drinking with Michael at the Wild Pony.

Michael: That was almost funny.

Maria: Almost? You're giving Prissy Pamela over there too much credit.

Alex: OK. Well whatever we do, can we at least avoid all the fake hacker shit? I can't take it seriously.

Max: To be fair, you said that about Mr. Robot, and that's pretty authentic.

Alex: No. I *whispers* I said Rami Malek was distracting. Why are we talking about this?

Liz: When did you two -- you guys watched Mr. Robot together?

Max *shrug*: We hang out sometimes. Maria and I cry over Hallmark and Lifetime movies, too.

Maria: No, you cry, Maxwell.

Michael: Cut the shit, DeLuca. You totally cry.

Maria: Rami Malek is good. Bohemian Rhapsody then?

Rosa: Boh-- they did a movie about Queen?!

Alex *excited*: Yes! Well, mainly Freddie Mercury. We should--

Isobel: *waves dismissively* I can't do Bohemian Rhapsody, but if we're doing music, what about A Star is Born?!

Kyle, Max, and Michael in unison: No!

Liz: Isobel, we have watched that three times already.

Max: Maria and I sang a duet to half the -- no. Not again.

Rosa *muttering to herself*: I guess I'll watch Bohemian Rhapsody by myself.

Alex *conspiratorially*: There's a screening next week a few towns over. We'll go then. I already bought our tickets.

Rosa: Have I told you lately you're my favorite?

Alex: *tousles her hair*

Rosa: Asshole. I take it back.

Alex: No you don't.

Liz: There's a really great documentary on the discovery of --

Michael: *feigns snoring*

Max: Liz, honey. Um ...

Isobel: No one wants to watch the history of the mass spectrometry, OK? Science gets you off, not the rest of us. [holds hand up to stop Michael from speaking] Don't you dare joke about porn.

Alex: It's a nice night for horror.

Rosa: Ohh, I second this.

Michael: *shrugs*

Liz: I ... I can't do horror. OK?

Alex: Oh right... the mishap of 2006.

Maria: Riiiiight. No, definitely no horror.

Liz: We agreed not to mention that again!

Kyle: How come I don't know about this?

Max: Why don't I know about this?

Isobel: We need to hear about this.

Liz: No! Um, does anyone need more drinks? I'll get more drinks.

Max: We could always cancel movie night and reconvene at Kyle's place next time.

Rosa: Nice try, second-rate Thor, but no.

Max *mutters*: Second-rate. That's an upgrade.

Kyle and Maria: *have a silent conversation with just their eyes*

Michael: Care to share with the class? *his eyes rest on Maria*

Kyle: *snags for remote and queues up the Die Hard series*

Michael: Hey!

Maria: *high-fives Kyle and smirks* Yippee ki-yay, mother fu-

Kyle: Now, which one are we watching?

Everyone: *groans*

#roswell new mexico #crackedt #anyway... #we need more funnies and also more group scenes #and them hanging out because none of these loveable losers have friends or their own so they may as well hang out together