#are those with someone who was born and raised in any other cult; I'm especially thinking of ones like Mormonism here

[mudstoneabyss]

Charles is the type of guy who seems like he'd want to learn about his town and its history even if it's not relevant to him so must be hard when so much of it people refuse to talk about. he doesn't have a straight answer as to what Strex's whole deal is and what's with that scientist who's mentioned in so many historical buildings who looks uncannily like him

#Kevin eventually tells him about Strex but he tells him considerably less so about Carlos #and also what Kevin tells him about Strex doesnt line up with what the og db townsfolk tell him about Strex with what the nv townsfolk #tell him about Strex with what Lauren tells him about Strex #hes really having to fight to puzzle this out without crossing anyones boundaries or stepping on any toes #I love the idea of Lauren having been born during Strex and after the creation of the Joyous Congregation so her relationship with those #are those with someone who was born and raised in any other cult; I'm especially thinking of ones like Mormonism here #and her brainwashing- as opposed to Kevin's indoctrinated kind- is intrinsic #so post Strex being brought down is the first time she's ever been confronted with Maybe Strex Is Bad and it Doesnt Have To Be Like That #and idk. I think her and Charles talk about it. a little. as much as she's willing to open up #also her desert otherworld situation fucks me up. Carlos and Kevin didnt have to eat so why was she dehydrated and starving the whole time? #does tdow just retain the state youre in when you enter it? why would she have already been in that situation then? #''because Finknor's inconsistent'' shut up. play in this space with me. believe everything's intentional bc its more fun than believing #that theyre mistakes #wtnv #joyousposting #i need to relisten to some of Dana's talk about tdow to see if there's anything there that continues the Dana/Lauren parallels

[just-jae]

One more WH spec tidbit b4 I become cold and distant from Tumby again:

WHY on earth does Home allegedly say "Help me" through the clanks and bangs?

If the theory that Home is controlling Wally is true or that at least influencing him in the metarecords, why doesn't Home speak through Wally then?

Im just. Having massive

Vibes rn.

Im already biased toward the take that Wally is basically the antagonist, doing bad stuff bc he thinks its good just bc I have a preference for those kinds of stories. But I'm becoming increasingly convinced that that's the actual canonical situation.

If Wally is exercising free will when he talks in the metarecords, then he's sus af.

Especially as the other characters seem to be reaching out to us.

First its just the team. Then its Wally. Then its Frank. Now, Sally is going meta.

It seems like at this point the other neighbors are the ones trying to prevent the restoration., keep Wally/the entity in the dark, make us aware of the character's sentience, and warn us of the danger.

Im not sure what the actual situation is, like, whether these characters are souls or an alternate dimension, or puppets given life by a demon, or what.

Hell for all we know, Home might have swapped bodied with Wally entirely. Meaning he's the one saying "Help me" while Home is pulling a Bill Cipher.

But, Im officially leaning towards an antagonist Wally take. It could be in relation to older theories that Welcome Home had cultist themes. I originally had the impression that Wally was someome who was isolated/made by the cult.

Like, my brain is still clutching onto that "Beautiful Dreamer" dialogue, where Wally says, "That's good... I think". Bc, idk about you but that sounds like someone who's just giving things the benefit of the doubt, but doesn't necessarily understand it.

bc

What could Home have possibly said that would make Wally's response uncertain? I was originally thinking that the characters couldn't actually understand Home, but it's apparent that they can. Yet Wally's still like. "Imma take that as a yes."

I think having Home speak in a way we couldn't understand was a fantastic choice by Clown. Bc ever since the "Beautiful Dreamer" audio my brain's been like a gossip queen going 'Wtf did e say????' What do you mean "I think??"'

It just seemed like it was setting up their relationship. Home says some demonic bs that Wally just trusts bc he doesn't know any better. But Wally himself isn't being controlled or made unaware of the evil, he legit doesn't understand evil when he sees it. And, by trusting Home and doing Home's bidding, he's a villain by extension.

Like, literally born and raised to do evil things.

Im still not sure know why there's so much sybolism that Home and Wally are the same person though? Maybe Wally's made from the black goo?

So far, theoretically, he's the only one who actually eats food. Everyone else pretends to eat fake food, but Wally actually eats. So he's not actually a puppet.

#welcome home #theory #speculation #Wally Darling #welcome home arg #last toot of the day #brownthoughts00

[werevulvi]

Finally someone i can relate to somewhat. I like the effect of mtf hrt for the most part but i don't want to forget (or pretend to not know) that i'm a bisexuabl male with a chemically modified body. I am fairly stranded communitywise (ironically gc spaces worsened my dysphoria so i couldn't remain in them) which always brings a cutting sorrow of not having a 'home' but it's kinda good to see people who are on a similar wavelength even if i'm never going to truly meet you. Keep thriving queen!

Hi! I can totally see why gc spaces make your dysphoria worse... I've been noticing that many gc circles (especially radfem) tend to be a bit (lot) anti-male, so if it's those you came across, it's no surprise to me that it made your dysphoria worse. And I'm really sorry about that! I can only imagine that hearing you're some kinda evil oppressor for just how you were born physically can make you hate being male even more. I don't view it quite so harshly. Sure, a few (or a lot) of males were socialised very badly and thus turned out crap humans.

But it's not because of their biology that they're crap humans, and I would never condemn anyone for just the way they're born. I've known horrible men, but also very wonderful men. And most MtF's I've met, I've struggled to relate to, but they've been decent people just living their lives. I don't hate males, I can't agree with that sorta sentiment. I hate how some aspects of male socialisation teaches many men to hate women, but that's hardly the same thing, and I think it's an important distinction to make. Those semantics really do matter.

Point is, it makes sense to me why feminist, and female focused gc spaces, would make a dysphoric male/MtF even more dysphoric instead of less. Let's be honest: they give you all the reasons to hate being male.

And then what other gc spaces are there? Well, the conservative right (many of whom also Christian) comes to mind, and although they're less likely to hate on men, they do have a tendency to be uncomfortably anti-gay and anti-gnc, which... I dunno about you, but that makes at least me incredibly uncomfortable, if not even badly upset. Even those who aren't outright hateful towards gays/lesbians/bisexuals and gender non-conforming people, the vibe is just not very welcoming. That kinda gender critical community is not gonna help any gnc/same sex attracted person feel good about themselves either.

(I'm clearly stating the obvious here, but I think it's important to point out these issues with gc communities, just in case you don't know why they make you feel bad, and in case you want to know. If not... I'm sorry for salting your wounds!)

And that's about it when it comes to gender critical spaces, aside from individual people who aren't really aligned with any specific ideology, but still criticise gender ideology harshly, and/or help raise the voices of those who do. Posie Parker, Benjamin Boyce, Joe Rogan, and Arielle Scarcella come to mind. They're gender critical to varying degrees, but not particularly conservative, nor radfem. Although I've rarely ever seen any gc stuff that's actually positive towards males, that doesn't turn around and say stuff like "I hate men" and "femininity is gross on men" or "don't be gay" etc the very next second. So if I had been male instead, and still dysphoric, I'd probably be having a very difficult time accepting my sex too.

As I've been saying (mostly to myself) lately: we're not broken, the world is.

I feel pretty stranded communitywise too, actually. I have like one foot in the radfem/gc circles and the other foot in trans circles, neither of which really like me criticising them. I mean, it's probably just very human to not like being criticised for one's opinions, but... yeah basically gc's sometimes think I'm either "still in the trans cult" for not wanting to get rid of my physical masculinity, or they think I'm a man pretending to be a detrans woman, and they don’t like that I disagree with some of their views. The trans masses on the other hand generally have far more issues with me, my opinions and my identity. They would have be beheaded for less than just looking a little suspicious!

But here's the thing: I think trying to not rely on a community to feel loved and accepted is probably very important. There will always be individual people who love and support you, and agree with things that matter to you. These individuals can come from all sorts of ideological backgrounds, but what ties you together is true friendship, not community, which only mimmicks friendship in an often political way. I'm trying my best to focus on those individuals in my life (which really is just a handful of people) instead of trying desperately to find a whole community that will love and support me. Because that's probably not gonna happen. I am too provocative with my womanhood, and will always keep questioning everything. I don’t actually want to settle ideologically. I want to keep evolving and learning. The way I view myself doesn't really fit into any set ideology, because it’s a combination of things that matter to me personally. It is tailored to fit me and only me. And I think that's what's causing the friction. I'm ideologically a freeloader, or nomad, and thus, I get along best with others who also ideologically freeload.

Alas... I still feel that "ideological homelessness" too, and it does hurt. I think it might just be a result of too much ideological couch surfing. I'm always a guest, but never at home. Thus, I am always treated as a guest, and viewed with more scepticism. Who am I to barge into THEIR community? However, I still have a home, ideologically. It’s just that I’m the only one living there. And I think that might be applicable to you too: you do have an ideological home, you just live alone. That can be lonely, but it also allows you to think more freely and be more genuine about your opinions. Thank you, I want you to thrive too! Meeting irl might not happen on random like that, no, as I'm suspecting you don't live on the same Swedish island as me... but if you think an online friendship might be worth a shot... it's totally okay to send me a pm! I will warn you though, that I have a tendency to ignore people for a few weeks here and there though, as my sensory overload gets the best of me... really a lot. It's a challenge to be my friend, but some have told me it's really rewarding once they do get to know me. It's up to you! But I get the feeling that we might get along well.