#bjhm s2

[dongslinger--420]

The no.1 rule of BoJack Horseman is that if anything has the potential to happen in a more stupid way than what you would initially expect, it will happen that way. Todd does NOT find the receipt under the chair, he sees a news story about Character Actress Margo Martindale and his ADHD does the rest of the work for him. Herb does NOT die of cancer, he dies of a peanut allergy he got after crashing into a peanut truck. Jessica Biel loses the election EXCLUSIVELY because she doesn't like avocados. BoJack loses all his money because the Xerox company sues him for negatively comparing himself to a Xerox because of COURSE that's how it happens.

#I love this show. actually. #bjhm #bojack horseman #bjhm s1 #bjhm s2 #bjhm s4 #bjhm s6 #bojack the horse #todd chavez #margo martindale #herb kazzaz #jessica biel

[xanny-zuko]

so obviously we all know that the penny situation is probably one of bojack’s worst actions. but something to consider is his motive. not to justify his actions, they are inexcusable. but it is important to consider when analyzing his character. 

now, the most popular consensus i’ve seen is that bojack did it because he couldn’t get with charlotte, so he went with the next best option. but another option to consider is...what if it was out of revenge? what if he wanted charlotte to find out, because he knew how much it would hurt her? charlotte wouldnt sleep with him, so he sleeps with her 17-year-old daughter. sa isnt a crime of attraction, it’s a crime of power, and bojack has been known to exploit power dynamics in his relationships. just something i’ve been thinking about, sorry if this was incomprehensible.

#bojack horseman #bojack spoilers #penny carson #charlotte carson #bojack #bjhm #bojack horsman s2 #bjhm s2 #escape from la #tw sa

[thediamondarcher]

One of the things i love the most about Isaac's and Todd's aroace/ace representation is how they aren't stereotypes like, we're mainly portrayed as machines or individuals without feelings or like we absolutely hate romance but those stereotypes aren't present in their characters. Isaac loves his friends and he loves books and reads books about romance because he doesn't hate it, it just isn't for him (like a lot of us feel like) and Todd is just a silly guy, he definitely isn't a machine (also he's neurodivergent) he has a backstory and him being asexual isn't portrayed as something bad, he just is. Both representations are amazing and very positive which is SO important for many reasons

#todd chavez #isaac henderson #heartstopper #bojack horseman #bjhm #hstv #heartstopper s2 #bojack netflix #aroace #aro #ace #aromantic #asexual #aroace representation #asexual representation

[eat-the-lemons]

Probably not the wisest thing to go to a halloween party in full costume after the ofmd finale. To every1 at this party: get ready to hear Bojack Horseman rant about pirates

#ofmd #ofmd s2 #ofmd s2 spoilers #spoilers #bjhm #halloween

[danganronpa96]

Jesse x Bojack is Sansmaeda of DR96 /j

No because I’m going to hijack this ask to talk about those two now 😈

Jesse and Bojack, during the early stages, were always going to have some sort of dynamic. I mean, you literally had the perfect connection or Aaron Paul playing both Jesse and Todd. But, there are also many interesting similarities between Jesse and Bojack themselves. How they both have addictions and harmful habits. How they were both sent to rehab at the end of a season (BreBa s2 and BJHM s5). How they both had rough upbringings (Bojack a little more so of course). They were gonna be the fucked up besties of the fic.

(Which is funny considering I took both their characters just before they were sent to rehab. So they would be as screwed up as possible for the death game. I’m so evil I know)

I personally enjoyed their development over the course of the story. How Walter’s death kickstarted a mixture of rocky beginnings. How Retsuko’s friendship with Bojack muddied the waters with Jesse and his grief. How the 3rd motive forced them to interact more. How Natsuki slowly began to merge towards them following the death of Yuri and Ena.

I really loved writing their dynamics, from their fights to them just hanging out. The forth case really was a testament to their friendship, and how much Jesse got attached to Bojack. Jesse has a hard time being abandoned by those he loves (ergo Jane’s death canonically) so I really tried to reflect that in his breakdown during the 4th trial. Bojack, to me, had potential to be a good friend towards Jesse, but in his current state, I don’t think he really would’ve been able to unless he really tried to change. That’s why they’re so tragic yaoi (/JJJJJ)

The fact that their friendship was a major focus for the chapter 4 case does kinda make them the ‘sansmaeda’s of DR96 doesn’t it? Haha

#and yeah I had the idea for Bojack to call Jesse Todd 2 for a while too #pay me 1 million dollars and I’ll draw them kissing /J #also they both have ‘man’ in their last name #so we calling it JessJack or

[dongslinger--420]

Same energy.

[Transcript:

Scene from s1e08 The Telescope:

Herb: "BoJack, how are your utensils?"

BoJack: "Err, they're fine?"

Herb: "Are you sure? Because if that knife ain't sharp enough, I've got another that you left in my back 20 years ago!" [laughs]

BoJack: "I should've seen that coming. Who asks about utensils?"

Scene from s2e10 Yes, And:

Princess Carolyn: "BoJack, what kind of pants are you wearing right now?"

BoJack: "What? I don't know, the normal kind?"

PC: "Yeah? Are they comfy? A comfy pair of pants?"

BoJack: "I guess, why?"

PC: "Oh, I was just wondering what kind of hit you're gonna take when the studio sues the pants off you for breach of contract!"

BoJack: "They're suing me? Also, are you wearing comfortable shoes, because that was a long road to take to get to that punchline!"

/End Transcript]

#bojack can't win at this game #bojack horseman #bojack the horse #herb kazzaz #bjhm #princess carolyn #bjhm s1 #bjhm s2 #the telescope #yes and

[dongslinger--420]

I love how after Let's Find Out, the fact that BoJack and Diane kissed is never brought up again. Nobody ever assumes that there's something romantic going on between them, and there isn't. They're best friends who love each other more than anyone, and nobody ever dissects that. It's really nice to see.

#bojack and diane #bojack the horse #bojack horseman #bjhm #diane nguyen #bjhm s2 #let's find out

[dongslinger--420]

One of the best things about Princess Carolyn is that she had two healthy relationships and they both happened AFTER she realised that she doesn't need to be in a relationship.

#one day that will happen to me #anyway I adore this woman #princess carolyn #bojack horseman #bjhm #ralph stilton #judah mannowdog #bjhm spoilers #bjhm s2 #bjhm s4 #bjhm s6

[dongslinger--420]

Ok but. The scene in s2e09 "The Shot" fucking breaks me and here's why. BoJack sees Kelsey as a merge between his parents and Herb, what with her being older than him and jaded but also she's a boss figure. And for this reason, BoJack spends a lot of time (shown most in "Chickens" but also a lot of the season tbh) trying to win her approval because she's not giving it to him willingly. He keeps going about it in the wrong way, as we see in Chickens when he is trying to turn her actual literal daughter being in danger into a fun day out, but I think the biggest issue with this is actually that he doesn't really have anything to prove. Kelsey purposefully sought him out for the job because she genuinely believed him to be the best actor there, and although she shows frustration at him not being able to do his job properly, she does still keep this image of him in mind. Which is why the thing that actually does lead him to win her approval is him delivering a genuinely good performance, and said approval just comes in a simple recognition of his skill. BoJack has been in desperate of simple appreciation from his parents (reflected in stuff like the "I see you" theme from Free Churro) and he has been missing the attention and extremely intimate love of his performance that Herb gave him while he was directing him, and Kelsey's "no, I knew" quote manages, in three words, to deliver both to him perfectly. And THAT'S what breaks him. Between the sheer emotional connection he feels towards this woman, and the lack of this connection that he received from the people he wanted it from the most, it just becomes too much for him, and THAT'S what leads him to start crying. It is one of the most layered, emotionally intimate moments of the entire show, and it breaks me every time I watch it.

#this analysis isn't as good as other stuff I've done but. yeah #this scene is EXTREMELY well done #as well as being well set up and delivered #bojack the horse #bojack horseman #bjhm #bjhm s2 #the shot #kelsey jannings #free churro #chickens #bjhm s5 #bjhm spoilers #herb kazzaz #beatrice horseman #butterscotch horseman #bjhm analysis

[dongslinger--420]

[ID: Tweet by BoJack Horseman @/BoJackHorseman that reads "none of these people would last five minutes on hollywoo stars adn celebrities what do they know do they know things let's find out" /End ID]

Strong contender for funniest thing this man has ever said.

#bojack horseman #bojack the horse #bjhm #bjhm s2 #hollywoo stars and celebrities: what do they know? do they know things? let's find out!

[dongslinger--420]

Just realised the subtle genius of lampshading how insane it is that sitcom parents know as much as they do about their kids friends by having BoJack, someone who knows the relationships and personalities of all of Penny's friends, v Charlotte, a mother who knows a realistic amount, and then has the added bonus of being weird on first watch and then Extremely uncomfortable on all subsequent watches

#what a genius episode #escape from la #bojack horseman #bojack the horse #bjhm #penny carson #charlotte carson #bjhm s2

[dongslinger--420]

I think probably my favourite thing about BoJack Horseman is how amazing and consistently well balanced the comedy is to the drama.

These are both from the same episode.

[Transcript 1:

Kelsey: "Thanks for talking me into this, BoJack. Just so you know, I'm really glad we're making this movie together."

BoJack: "Didn't know you had it in me, did you?"

Kelsey: "No, I knew."

/End Transcript 1]

[Transcript 2:

Todd: "Margot, I thought we agreed no guns"

Margot: "Oh, is that what we agreed to? I thought we said no gum."

Todd, hushed: "But you're also chewing gum."

Margot: "I'm a wild card."

/End Transcript 2]

#bojack horseman #bjhm #the shot #bjhm s2 #bojack the horse #kelsey jannings #todd chavez #character actress margot martindale

[dongslinger--420]

How is bojack more loyal to diane?

It's demonstrated in many ways throughout the show, but the bottom line is that BoJack's affection for the people he cares about is a lot more unconditional than Diane's. Diane's Cordovia arc is a good example of this: when Diane was at her worst, BoJack let her stay with him for an indeterminate amount of time, no questions asked. But after this situation gets resolved, Diane starts ghosting him because she believes that they bring out the worst in each other. As she looked back on the situation, she analysed it entirely objectively, and although you could easily argue that she was right, she completely failed to notice that BoJack was able to uproot his entire life (including his girlfriend who he loved) for her. Diane's tendency to think about things on a purely logical and objective level means that she fails to develop close bonds with people, and this also often manifests itself with throwing people under the bus. Diane does this to BoJack twice in the span of the series: once with One Trick Pony*, and once in INT. SUB, and both times she completely fails to consider BoJack's side of the story (or in the case of the latter, Penny's side), to the point where BoJack has to directly confront her to make her understand that actually, writing the humiliating stories of him without permission was a shitty thing to do, and it is weird that she neither considered how he would feel, nor did she ever apologise for it. By contrast, in Hank After Dark, when BoJack is given the choice to abandon Diane in her endeavours, when literally the entire world is against her, and when he could easily be dragged down with her, he chooses to stay with her and support her.

Diane is, at heart, a utilitarian. She has plagued herself with the idea that she can Save The World, regardless of who she has to throw under the bus to get there. BoJack, on the other hand, recognises deep down that the only thing truly worth it in the end is the people he cares about. In his words: "in this terrifying world, all we have are the connections that we make".

*Yes they agreed to have a "warts and all" version of the book, but they didn't agree on the format the book turned out to be in. Diane writing the book from her perspective made a significant difference, as it made it more mocking than reflective.

#diane nguyen #bojack horseman #bojack and diane #bjhm #bojack the horse #bjhm s1 #one trick pony #bjhm s2 #hank after dark #yes and #int. sub

[dongslinger--420]

Wow, the fact that BoJack can't cry in front of other people is such a good look into the kind of upbringing he had! It's such a good example of how destructive his personality is that he has been raised to take a stiff upper lip approach to life! It makes the scene in The Shot where he does cry, along with the events leading up to it, so much more powerful! I'm so glad Prickly Muffin doesn't exist!!!!

#bojack horseman #bjhm #bjhm s1 #bjhm s2 #prickly muffin #the shot bjhm #bojack the horse

[dongslinger--420]

BoJack's character arc in s2 is so genius like he keeps trying to prove his worth to this woman because his past traumas make him feel like he needs to but the underlying irony in all of this is that he never Had to prove himself, because she chose him specifically. He was her first choice for the role right from the start. She ALWAYS saw his worth.

#“didn't think I had it in me did you?” “no I knew” #is SUCH an incredible line to me #I think about it so often it's just perfect #bojack horseman #bjhm #bojack the horse #kelsey jannings #bjhm s2

[dongslinger--420]

Every day I have a new bjhm line stuck in my head and today the line is "I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who said: 'You have reached the end of your free trial on benjaminfranklinquotes.com'" genuinely who gave this show the right to be so genius or Mr Peanutbutter the right to be so funny

#IT'S SO QUOTABLE #bojack horseman #bjhm #mr peanutbutter #bjhm s2 #chickens