#but thats also why its funny to me to see mcr or fob band blogs reblog those trolly posts about punk or bringing back gatekeeping lmaooo

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partially incoherent thoughts at the moment but it is very interesting that the kind of tumblr esque “punk is ___” (insert kindness, insert being against the counter culture insert taylor swift) is, to me, very much an outgrowth of the vagrant records emo boom tying punkandemo as a concept into something mainstream and fundamentally earnest and curated and about feeling alienated moreso than angry or political or even diy, however that makes you feel. like personally i vibe a lot more with the vagrant model than than the victory one and do agree about the band-first approach of egan. but i think we are forever dealing with the repercussions of his rhetoric, the way he found “a new definition of punk in the rejection of the rigid orthodoxies of self-proclaimed punk” (greenwald; nothing feels good) moreso than the bands he signed or even the music they made because it became a calling card of the third wave and warped tour bands

#egan and vagrants motto of justifying their success in the mainstream by hitting on the ways in which it was trangressive. the like bucking #of punk's old convictions is textbook the way non-punk ppl try to justify how their interests are 'punk' bc it makes oldheads mad or whatevs #the difference is egan and his bands very clearly gave a shit about punk music- but the kids who took after him....well #but thats also why its funny to me to see mcr or fob band blogs reblog those trolly posts about punk or bringing back gatekeeping lmaooo #but on another level i see people talk about demographics and this idea that punk 'moved' to a more suburban well-to-do teen demographic #and thats just fundamentally untrue. there are working class ppl in punk itd be a lie to say their arent. #but with like hardcore esp. its college kids in college towns. well off. parents arent struggling. the dc scene its so noticeable #because of the capital all those kids had parents who were either professors or gov workers. #and thats very common across scenes. riot grrl. posthardcore. jersey rutgers house parties. etc etc #i dont really know where im going with this other than its interesting and not something i think ppl understand? #anyway finally reading nothing feels good thanks mr andy greenwald #my posts