#from what im seeing utena is a story about agency and power imbalances

[vaugarde]

i'm gonna try not to bring up madoka too much while watching utena because i know there's like... a rep there. but like im 6 episodes into utena and i understand i don't have the full picture yet but how on earth do people think these shows are similar enough to warrant "madoka is misogynistic garbage, go watch utena, it's basically the same but better"

#like ive rambled abt ppl calling madoka problematic before i wont rehash that rn #but like........ what exactly do these shows have in common besides purple/pink uncanny valley toxic yuri #its not even the same flavor of toxic yuri #from what im seeing utena is a story about agency and power imbalances #like. i guess they both have broken systems? but those systems also seem to work differently #the end of the world seems more cultish while kyubeys magical girls can be more closely compared to military recruiting #like... idk im getting the vibe that these ppl claiming that madoka is god awful and utena is The Good Show havent really processed either #and just dumbed both of them down to general tropes like. oh pink/purple yuri! oh horror tropes! #theyre not even from the same genre. rgu is a shoujo anime while pmmm is a magical girl anime #like. i know theres some rgu influence in pmmm but from what i know that seems to be the extent of it. influence #like. are you telling me every single deconstructive show containing yuri is similar to one another... #who's participating in fandom misogyny again? #echoed voice