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#i had someone call a SU fic i wrote once a 'fix it' and i'm just like
novantinuum · 6 months
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self care is unfollowing people who spread negativity on ur dash!! like Damn! yeah i theoretically Agree with your crit but i really Don't wanna see it either bc i want to Celebrate content instead of hyperfixating on the stuff i didn't like about it! yeet!!!
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flightfoot · 1 year
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Sometimes I really hate the show for not allowing cn to be angry with lb and he has a lot of reason to be angry and upset at her too! It's also the same with most of fic I read, people let lb get angry at cn but do not let cn get angry at her even though it's justified. Whenever he's angry at her she would yelled back at him and he's quick to yield or that he still simp her even though she had hurt him. It's in character because that's his trauma response but I hope I can read a fic where cn can and allowed to be angry and instead of lb yelled back at him and getting defensive she would listen to him or you know, let him admitted that she hurt him and questioned if pursuing her or be her "partner" is still worth it. If you know a fic with similar premise like that, please let me now. Thanks!
I do see what you're getting at here, since there are times when I've been frustrated at Marinette, and when Chat Noir could justifiably be upset at her (Season 4 has a few examples), but where he didn't really get to have an in-depth talk with her to resolve these issues, not ones where it felt like he really got to work out the problems he had, anyway. I've mostly settled for Ladybug making more of an effort to include Chat Noir, to not hide secrets from him anymore that aren't strictly necessary, NOW at least. She never wanted to hurt him like that, she cares about him a lot, she just didn't think about how that might hurt him.
There are fics where Chat Noir gets upset at Ladybug and is allowed to be angry, with Ladybug listening to his concerns and changing her approach, especially during season 4. They aren't very common at all though, not when compared to the whole Chameleon saltfic trends, anyway. There are also ones that go beyond that and into full bashing, making Marinette into a stalker as a civilian and into someone who just, didn't care for or respect Chat Noir in the slightest and treated him badly as Ladybug, but that trends towards the same sort of Ron the Death Eater that I abhor in the regular saltdom, so I stay out of those stories once I realize where they're going. I noped out of a story fairly recently, actually, when I realized during chapter 2 that it was gonna demonize Marinette, treat her negatively in a way I found unfair.
Again, though, keep in mind that those are rare, and generally are not very popular on the infrequent occasions when they do pop up, they don't make up multiple sub-fandoms like the Saltinette sphere does.
As far as fics where Chat Noir is allowed to be justifiably angry with Ladybug for something she did, and Ladybug recognizes that, apologizes, and changes her approach, I actually wrote a fic I think you might like. I was pretty unhappy with how Ladybug lied to Chat Noir and manipulated him in Ephemeral, with her "lie to him about wanting a full Reveal, use that opportunity to have a third party secretly listen to find out Chat's identity, rewind time so Chat never knew anything had happened, and have that third part tell Su-Han Chat's secret identity, circumventing the need for Chat's knowledge or consent in any of this" plan, especially since it never got brought up later. So I decided to write a fic to help me process that, being fair to Marinette and keeping in mind her feelings and view on the situation, while also letting Adrien feel hurt and to lay down some boundaries, but WITHOUT him ever trying to hurt her or be nasty towards her - Adrien and Marinette are still the same loving, heroic, kind, but also realistically flawed people they always are, even if I'm upset at Marinette here.
Anyway, the fic is called "Transcient", I'm pretty proud of it!
Everything was fine now, right? She’d assured him that she wasn’t mad about Su-Han knowing his identity, and he sounded like he was feeling better. She’d fixed the problem.
So why wasn’t the lump in her throat disappearing? ------------------------------ Chat's worried about how Su-Han managed to learn his identity. Marinette re-examines her "Obtain Chat Noir's identity" plan.
I'll give you a sample as well, so you have an idea what sort of story this is.
“You screwed up,” Alya told her bluntly.
Marinette groaned. 
Her friend pinched her nose, giving out a long sigh. “Girl, just… just walk me through your thought process here. Please. Why did you think it was a good idea to try to lie and trick your partner into giving up his identity to someone else without him even knowing about it?”
“I mean, I am planning on revealing my identity to him later, so… is it really a lie?” she asked weakly.
Alya glared at her. “At the time you said it you weren’t planning on following through, so yes, that was a lie .”
She looked down, biting her lip. “But if I didn’t, Su-Han was going to take Chat’s Miraculous. I- I can’t lose him, Alya.” Her voice cracked. “I already did once, back in New York, and I- I don’t want to go on being Ladybug without him.”
Alya’s expression softened, but her voice maintained a hard edge. “I get that, but why not just tell Chat about Su-Han’s ultimatum, work it out together? He’s your partner and this is about him, he should have a say on what to do with his own secret identity.”
“But what if he refused?” Marinette asked urgently. “Last time he met Su-Han, he was so upset about the Celestial Guardian’s insistence that I stop being Guardian - that I lose my memories - that he dared him to try and take his Miraculous. We ended up having a pretty tough fight, one that I’d rather not repeat. He said at the time that he’d give up his Miraculous if I asked, but… well… I don’t know whether that would extend to telling Su-Han his secret identity.”
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