#i haven't rewatched the ep yet though so maybe my feelings will change on rewatch

[pynkhues]

it's interesting you read it as kendall trying to comfort roman! to me, it did read as cutting, like ken going logan mode and saying what logan would've said in that situation to roman. but following it up with "it's ok" is very kendall, not logan. hm i don't think i fully agree with your take but i see it! also kendall immediately standing up for rome with mencken... he is such a big brother

I think a lot of people read it as cutting or Logan-esque, anon! Which I find pretty fascinating because I can't really see Logan as ever saying something like you fucked it, it's okay, look, it happens, especially not with a level tone of voice, haha.

I don't know, the fact that it echoed exactly what Roman said to him in 3.09 felt really pointed to me, and the fact that Kendall circled back around to making it about him needing Roman still, while self-serving, sure, also felt like the exact sort of comfort that Kendall himself usually clings to (after all, if Dad didn't need him, he wouldn't know what he'd be for).

I do think there was probably other feelings at play too - the show's never dealt in pure comfort after all, and there was, I imagine, a degree of relief at Roman crumbling in front of Mencken when Kendall was rattled by their closeness in the last episode. I also feel like it kind of echoed in some ways Kendall's handling of Sophie this season. While the circumstances are, of course, very different, it feels to me like a reflection of Kendall's broken social skills and his difficulties with relating to people with any sort of emotional honesty.

I mentioned in a reply a while ago that I think one of the biggest differences between Roman and Kendall is that Roman can be honest without being vulnerable, and Kendall can be vulnerable without being honest, and the ways that tends to inform their relationships with others. This season, I think, has in many ways doubled down on that, and especially as Kendall seems to be incapable of meeting either his daughter, Rava, Roman or (albeit to a lesser extent) Shiv, where they need him to meet them. Instead, he sifts through his own experiences and finds moments that gave him a modicum of comfort and tries to mirror them back at people in a way that doesn't work. He tries to keep Sophie tucked away and then buries her in security like his father did to him after Shiv's wedding, he tries to hug Shiv like she hugged him at his lowest, and now he parrots Roman's own comforts back at him too.

I don't think it's malicious, I just think it's another way a life of abuse has manifested in these four children. They were raised without empathy, so the ways they try to show it are mangled and sometimes cruel. It's just all that they know how to do.

#i haven't rewatched the ep yet though so maybe my feelings will change on rewatch #i got free tix to a pretty bad movie last night and have been at work all day #so my thoughts are all over the shop haha #kendall roy #roman roy #sophie roy #hbo succession #succession 4.09 #succession spoilers #welcome to my ama

[theflyindutchwoman]

Have you done Anatomy of a Scene for ep 4x21 yet? Apologies if you had. I’m referring to this specific scene while in the shop, and Tim and Lucy where discussing Tim’s vacation plan with Ashley and how vacationing in Hawaii may send off the wrong message. But Specifically the part when Lucy asked Tim “can you see yourself married to her?”

I feel like, this is one of very crucial moment that gets overlooked. In my mind I saw Tim trying to picture who he sees at the end of the aisle, which was Lucy. And this took him by surprise, shown by the way his eyes widen slightly, as if by surprised and the hesitation in his answer. And of course Lucy was quite bummed out when he said yes, even thought it was definitely untrue.

Personally I see this moment as a major turning point, aside from DOD episode. In the DOD episode it’s a turning point in which Tim realizes that he cares about Lucy, maybe more than the typical TO/ rookie dynamic and that he is unwilling to not have her in his life. But the 4x12 scene , that simple question, kinda brings to light the romantic feelings that has been brewing and simmering underneath that Tim may have not realized before either.

No, I haven't done one yet! I did touch on it briefly in this ask, if you want to read it (it's the first part), but it was more about Tim's feelings for Ashley.

This is a very interesting take! Though I'm not sure I can believe that Tim was thinking of Lucy in that specific moment… The way I see it, this was more about Lucy figuring out her feelings for Tim than the other way around… That's why the camera zoomed in on her reaction after he answered her question or when he fake-proposed. The focus was on her and how crushed she was. And for me, this is supported by Tim's own reaction after their practice kiss in the next episode, when he was in the hallway, completely bamboozled. This was the face of a man who finally had an epiphany. But if he could see himself marrying Lucy before that kiss, then there was no reason for him to have such a strong reaction since he would have already been in touch with his feelings for her, you know what I mean? I also doubt he would have been able to joke about proposing to Ashley if he had this picture of Lucy in mind. Look at how he behaved in the parking lot the morning after their kiss… That seems more consistent with someone who was finally aware of his feelings for his partner and consequently, no longer knew how to act around her at first. By comparison, when he said he could see himself marrying Ashley, there was no drastic change in his demeanor. His world view shifted in 4.22.

So I guess this might be why this moment gets overlooked or overshadowed… Because his response in the shop is open to interpretation. It's not as clear cut as the one he has in the hallway after their kiss. I interpret his reaction in 4.21 more as him finally considering the possibility of proposing to Ashley. He had been dodging the question since Lucy brought it up, and this time, he was actually turning it over in his mind.

That said, this is only my interpretation and is no more valid than yours. I think that whole scene you're referring to was left ambiguous on purpose since Tim himself was struggling to make sense of his own feelings. I'm currently rewatching season 4 so I'll keep this in mind when I get to this episode.

#Thanks for sharing your thoughts :) #ask & ye shall receive #the rookie #chenford #tim bradford #lucy chen #As an aside - I might do a masterlist for all the scenes I've analysed so far #Might be easier now that I've done quite a few

[sleepyscully]

When do you think Mulder and Scully first started dating?

this ask has been sitting in my ask box for over a year because when i got it simply couldn't answer it because i'm shit at remembering timelines. but now that i am getting along in my rewatch i think i have an answer

the short answer is: i think mulder and scully started dating in season 6

but this is the internet so you're gonna get the long answer as well

I think that during the season 4 cancer arc they both realize that they have feelings for each other

throughout season 5 they become aware that the other has feelings for each other but they don't address it. i think that explains a lot of the flirting and a lot of the awkwardness.

Then we have fight the future and i mean... their feelings for each other are basically an open secret now, one that they not necessarily talk about (yet) but they almost kissed for gods sake (or actually kissed if you believe the alternate version ;)

I've been trying to pinpoint the exact moment/episode where they started dating but it's haaard! (on that note i wanna add that i'm not sure they actually went out on dates, it doesn't seem like them. when i say they started dating i mean that some things developed that were more than friendship and that they maybe also talked about their feelings and everything)

however, i think i narrowed it down to a time between Triangle and Dreamland. Mulder's love confession at the end of triangle wasn't really successful but maybe mayyyybe it changed something in them. Also the kiss in triangle makes me believe that he wanted to kiss her AT LEAST ONCE in his life. On the other hand, that kiss could be interpreted as "i kissed you before and it was so good that i need to do it one last time before we might never see each other again"

Dreamland then we have the moment where Scully says "I'd kiss you if you weren't so damn ugly" and it gives me definite vibe of them being more than friends. I think that maybe they are not exclusive yet, or haven't talked about it but it was implied. I base that on Scully's reaction when he sees Fletcher flirting and hooking up with the assistant. Idk the whole ep, especially the evening in Mulder's apartment makes me believe that something happened between them.

Once we get to Rain King i am 100% sure they are dating even though they deny it to the others. They might not be sleeping with each other yet, because they seem to be very adamant about that but their relationship has definitely changed and i think they are exclusive by now.

anyways, that's my theory about their dating timeline!

thanks for asking :)

#mulder x scully #msr #the x files #asks #jewish-mulder

[trashlie]

Got to sit down and rewatch the new BaPC eps while more awake last night. Still haven't watched the rest of it in order yet - the order of the leaked eps was apparently wrong so I want to see how it flows on Netflix. I figured I might as well jot down my thoughts while they're fresh, though. As expected, this will be full of spoilers!

This isn't going to be an overwhelmingly negative series of thoughts because I just don't have it in me. I understand why a lot of people feel the way they do, but like I've stated before, I understand Netflix is garbage and even worse to animation, so there's a lot of things (like episode limit, season limits) that I think are beyond the team. I don't see a point in wonder why they couldn't just upload the first season as well - which I'll get into - when I know Netflix is stingy on seasons and episode counts (I believe it's after season 3 that Netflix has to increase pay for originals and I imagine there's a similar concept for shows they host).

Ultimately, though, I think a big thing is that somewhere along the lines, either the story Natasha set out to tell changed, or maybe it just grew; or maybe in the process of telling the story, there were elements she wanted to alter, in order to better tell it. Mote foreshadowing, more lore, a different tone. The OG BaPC works excellently as a standalone series, and if Netflix had ordered TWO seasons instead of one with 3 extra eps to condense the first season + pilot, I'm sure we could have retained a lot of things fans loved - but Netflix didn't.

I'm ALWAYS going to love the OG series - the tone is different, the story is clearly different from what it's evolved into, it FEELS different. That stride of Bee's birthday and the jellyfish story and everything from Deckard taking Bee to show her his plants and ending up on Donut Planet just GETS to me emotionally and it's so beautifully done, and maybe had Netflix ordered it as a separate season we might have been able to retain a lot of that heart and soul. But also...

Something I noticed about the new episodes, and illuminated it in the Lazy in Space eps, is that they really have played into how Bee feels and expresses emotions. Deckard asking if Bee will miss him if he leaves the island is a direct parallel to the flashback of Crispin moving out of Bee's place, asking if she's even sad. In response to Deckard, Bee sounds almost insincere, like she's laughing at a joke, and to Crispin she reveals her little Bee guts in conflict.

Even though they knew in OG BaPC that she was a robot, I think by the time they were working on Lazy in Space they changed their mind on how Bee operates. Her issue with water and the ocean vs the straight up avoidance of water altogether. The way she expresses emotions and her tones. The sentimental expression of emotional conflict as she found herself enjoying her birthday for once is completely removed. I think if this was still an integral aspect of Bee, they would have found a way to maintain it in the new episodes, because ultimately what DOES remain is all stuff pertinent to various characters - a whole flashback of Cas and Toast's history, how Cardamon found Sticky, getting more insight in Deckard and Cas's relationship. I assume by removing things like Bee's conflicted emotions, we are leaning more into Bee as a robot who doesn't react exactly as a human.

That said, there's obviously a lot about Bee that IS very human - whether it's how she was made or what she picked up from being around others. A change I like a lot is how Bee encouraged Deckard to go to culinary school - how Cas didn't fill out the acceptance for him, it was his choice that he tried to back out of, and that Donut Planet and Bee ultimately encouraged him. We get to see a little more of his internal conflict, in how he WANTS to go but he's scared of leaving and scared of tackling something he's no good at. I think that's a big reason that he does better on Donut Planet than at culinary school: even though he chose to go, there's still a lot of reluctance (and depression) and maybe something to do with a lack of encouragement? At any rate, I love Deckard having the agency of choice, but I also REALLY love Bee encouraging him, because she knows he's scared and selling himself short. It's such a tender, human experience, to encourage those you care about, to do your part to make it easier for them (offering to look after his family for her).

Basically, I look at OG BaPC and the new eps + Lazy in Space as two different entities, because it's clear to me the story being told was changed at some point (Bee and Deckard's entire romance being completely erased, a lot of sentimentality downplayed, Bee's age HEAVILY played into, a link between Bee and Cardamon more heavily teased). I'd love to hear a BTS from Natasha about how they rewrote the story - things that were removed due to time, things that were changed because the story changed, how the story may have evolved over the last ten years - because it would be so fascinating to see how the story has grown. In terms of story, though, Lazy in Space was a departure from OG BaPC, so even if uploading the first season had ever been an option, I get why they didn't go that route. Artstyle aside, casual watchers would probably find that disconnect jarring - the sudden changes in things like Bee's line delivery, the whole lol erased romance plot, all of the fascinating lore the new episodes introduce that better link to Lazy in Space were not present.

There are some details I think were probably always present: I bet Bee's dad was always intended to be affiliated with Puppycat and Violet (it's no coincidence that Bee and Violet live in the same complex, on an island that is a spaceship); Bee was probably always meant to be pretty old; the island was always a spaceship.

Anyway like I said, I understand why there are people upset about the departure from OG BaPC. I think Lazy in Space made a lot of that change, too, so the story had to adjust to those changes, and the slice of life on the surface genre that many had come to love no longer suited the story being told. So to me, they are two different stories with the Netflix version being the one they chose to pursue. Rather than tell people to watch the OG series on YouTube and start from ep 4 on Netflix, though, I think it would be better if people just watched the OG after they complete the Netflix version. OG BaPC sets a whole different tone and doesn't have a lot of the lore that the new episodes offer. OG BaPC as a treat is probably the better way to go about it.

Ultimately, I love them both! I love Bee and I love getting new lore to mull over, new pieces to the puzzle. Bee's dad -- IN the Dad box?! The Dad Box a portal to him..?! -- threw me for LOOP! Acknowledging the candy Bee eats is the same that Puppycat and Violet used to collect? She and Cardamon used to share it?! (Oh my GOD Cardamon doesn't eat does he?! He buys all that junk food FOR VIOLET "It's not for me" because he doesn't NEED to eat?!) There's just so MUCH good, new stuff to think on and I'd hate to throw that all out the window, yknow?

#Bee and Puppycat #Lazy in Space #BaPC #Bee and Puppycat Spoilers #Lazy in Space Spoilers #BaPC Spoilers #BaPC Brainrot #this probably isn't as comprehensive as I'd like to be but oh well

[crazycatfaery]

A wonderful morning from your holiday anon. I'm here with, you guessed it, more questions! of all 13 eps which one is your favorite? which 3 things would you change about season 2? do you have 3 favorite fanfic tropes?

Omg hi anon!!! So happy to hear from you again! 😄💚

So sorry for my late reply, but it turns out you stumped me with the first two questions this time, so I went and rewatched the whole series with a notebook and pen in hand (I had to go through all the feels again because of this, how dare you! /affectionately).

My favourite episode: OMG WHAT. I can't choose just one! I liked the first episode of S1, because its an introduction of all the characters, and I like that Farah is in there a lot. I also like the last episode of S1, apart from the fact that Farah gets forced into her nap. My favourite scene is in that episode, with Farah opening up to Bloom and them hugging 🥺. But then I also really like episode 6 of S2, even though that's when we say goodbye to Farah. The whole conversation between Stella and Luna, Bloom's stasis dream with Aisha's words, Farah freeing her after wiping her tear...just, ugh 😭❤️. The problem is that I have things I love and things I don't in every episode of the show, so picking only one is so hard! The best I can do is narrow it down to S1Ep6 and S2Ep6 (hah, both episode 6), which are equally high up my list.

Three things I'd change about S2: Ooh are you ready because I have THOUGHTS.

Saul's emotionless reaction to the mention of Farah by Terra. Like, what the heck was that?? I already have a couple HC explanations for it, but I would've much preferred the addition of a small scene where we see a hint of him breaking down or very obviously keeping in his emotions (like punching a tree and then pretending everything is fine while someone looks at him with sad eyes, maybe Sky? *takes note of this for future fic*) to signal that he does, in fact, know about her death and DOES care a GREAT deal! I'm very passionate about this as you can tell.

Bloom and Rosalind's "fight". I don't like how Rosalind just kind of... stands there while Bloom gets ready to flambé her into a crispy piece of chicken. Couldn't they at least have done a little exchange of magical blows or something? Rosalind trying to attack Bloom (futile attempts ofc but still)? At the very least make it so Rosalind doesn't feel so weak in that moment. She's supposed to be a powerful fairy, more than Farah! I actually jumped on this scene for the fix-it event this year, and wrote THIS fic, if you haven't read it yet and want to know more about what I'd change. I even go more in-depth in the comments.👀

The pacing. Most of this season felt rushed. Maybe it would've helped if they'd added another episode and stretched it out a bit (as they initially promised), maybe they should've ended the season with Rosalind's crispyness so they would've had more room for all the previous storylines that season. Then again, we wouldn't have had that final goodby of Farah, unless the show did actually get renewed, in which case they could've scrapped that whole bit and just have Farah come back because Eve Best's filming schedule would've possibly alined better (wishful thinking, I know). Overall, I feel there were a lot of things left out that could've been told, and weren't because they focused on rushing towards Bloom going to the Dark Realm.

Three favorite fanfic tropes: Good god I have to breathe for a minute after that rant😂. I'm glad you put a positive question after that one!

I like to read all sorts of stuff, but the tropes I gravitate towards the most are: Fix-it fics (or canon-divergence AU), because of obvious reasons. Angst/fluff (or hurt/comfort?) fics, because I love me some angst as long as it has a happy ending (although sometimes I like a bittersweet ending too, if I need a good cry). And lastly I love Mutual Pining, because what else would I have my two favorite idiots do?❤️

I hope I understood this question correctly, because I always confuse tropes, genre's and styles? Have a few bonus ones I also enjoy, for if I actually got it wrong: There was only one bed, Five times fic, Missing Scene, and Friends to lovers.

#ftwsholidayexchange #This was hard #But also fun #More please! 😁

[littlehollyleaf]

What's your opinion over Utopia? i have seen till episode 3 and i would stop watching if it wasn't for Cory Michael Smith, in my opinion the English one was a lot better , i wasn't huge fan of its characters but the story and directing was over the top and don't get me started about the phenomenal music scores by Cristobal tapia De Veer the same person who wrote the original music of Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, the Amazon's Utopia is not as good as the older one was in many things and maybe i am rushing to judgement since i haven't finished all season but i don't believe my opinion will change, love Cory though he is amazing as Thomas Christie.

Other than a vague memory of knowing I enjoyed it, I have no recollection of the original uk Utopia at all, I watched it so long ago!

So that likely helped my enjoyment of the Amazon version, because I simply have nothing to compare it to (and on the whole music... is not that important to me, so I doubt I'd have even noticed that the original show had a better score, even if I did remember it! Soz, I'm just... bad at music).

So upshot is, I DID enjoy the Amazon Utopia, even without Cory. I grew quite fond of the other characters (aside from Thomas' dad, perhaps, I wasn't so interested in him). I liked how none of them were really good or innocent (save for the kids! And I esp enjoyed the evolving relationship between Grant and Alice - did you meet Alice yet? - and their relationship with Jessica).

Post episode three you start getting more exploration of the antagonists too - Arby (RB?) starts to develop and doubt/question his 'purpose', which I found interesting, you meet more members of the organisation/family, and there's a bit of exploration of how brainwashing / being raised in a cult affects your understanding of the world and if you can really ever be fully desensitized from emotion/empathy/love etc (Jessica's character/chatacterisation/development is a lot about that too and there's one moment between Thomas and his father that relates to the theme that struck me in particular, but I won't elaborate cos I'm trying to avoid specific spoilers!). But stories about characters escaping/fighting/defying brainwashing/cults are... kinda my jam, so that's more of a personal reason for my enjoyment I guess (that was one of the big aspects of Cas' plot/character that made me fall in love with him and his story).

I thought Becky and Ian's little romantic subplot was sweet and post ep 3 it has some comedic moments that made me chuckle as well (and I found Becky was a joy to watch in general tbh). Also thought Wilson was Fun :p

I liked the black humour. I LOVED the artwork for the Utopia comic (ofc maybe the uk version was better? but like I say, I honestly can't remember it).

BUT, all that said, my enjoyment is still only what I'd call a casual or passing enjoyment. Like, it hasn't changed my world. I'm not rushing to rewatch any of it (although I do kinda wanna rewatch the original now).

I'm invested enough that if they do make a second season I'll tune in. I wanted more immediately after I finished, but I was deep in marathon mode at that point, lol. But... if another season doesn't get made I'm not gonna be too upset/disappointed. And... honestly, unless my dash starts talking/posting serious meta about it to keep the story fresh for me, there's a decent chance that I'm gonna forget about the whole thing in a week or two :P

Sorry, that got unnecessarily long! Was basically me sorting out my thoughts/feelings about the whole thing. Dunno if it helps you! Based on my reaction to the show I think you are correct in thinking your overall enjoyment will not increase that much if you keep watching - but I would say it's still entertaining enough to make watching to the end worthwhile (and Cory does get more screentime post ep 3 ;p)