#i only started actively disliking him bc of his fans and tbh a decent portion of it still is how so many people act like he was an innocent

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@fullybeautifultheorist replied to your post “I know I have some drafts that at least mention...”:

Tbh the fact that Cole was possessed doesn't really change much. Cole was egoistical and obsessed murderer in season 3 as well as in season 5. There is literally no meaningful change in his behavior during all 3 season. And even un season 7 he is playing peeping Tom

​Hmm, honestly, I see your point, but I think I would disagree. I’m not a fan of Cole’s, by any means, but I think knowing that he did not purposefully become the Source of All Evil and he wasn’t in full control would change things for at least Phoebe. I don’t want to whitewash his sins, because there are many but there is at least some kind of inherent tragedy in his loss of agency and autonomy after he tried to redeem himself. He really was trying to become good, even if it was for flawed reasons. I also think that it could bring either more pain or comfort to Phoebe and the sisters, because on one hand, they hadn’t been tricked so badly that Cole had never actually changed sides but on the other, they’d still been manipulated enough that they thought he never did if that makes sense.

#fullybeautifultheorist #abi speaks #cole turner #anti cole turner #charmed #i have a LOT of issues with cole and his storylines and ESPECIALLY the way his fans treat him #but at the same time i do think that it still mattered. do i necessarily think he's redeemable? ehhh #but i still think that the fact that he did not voluntarily betray the sisters and try to take power #is something that would be important for the sisters to know #like yeah he was a bad person and abusive and it was of his own volition #but at the same time i dont really think its fair that what they see as one of his biggest betrayals was something he had no agency over #or even limited agency over. i dont really know how much agency he had over the source tbh bc they dont really show us but #but it's like. maybe you fail but your choices still MATTERED yknow? #idk if that makes sense #my original post is more about how the sisters deserved to know more than it really changed anything for cole tho like #idgaf about him like sticking the happy ending or whatever but i think that phoebe (and the sisters) deserved to know #idk man i have a lot of thoughts about cole and phoebe and s4 and 5 and they change all the time so #bc i actually never had that much beef with him when i first watched the show (at like fucking. thirteen lmao) #i only started actively disliking him bc of his fans and tbh a decent portion of it still is how so many people act like he was an innocent #when he still had that blood on his hands #and i also havent really rewatched like s3 thru s5 for a hot hot minute especially not consecutively so like #my opinions may do a complete 180 in either direction once i actually. do that #(we're ignoring that i've been saying that for literally two or three years at this point life is time consuming) #annnnnd we're back to tags being longer than the post whoops lmao