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#i'm sorry these are all irish and italian lol i literally could only think of the ones i heard as a kid and like
oflights · 8 months
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Hello! Top 5 fave folklores/fairytales? :)
ohhhh i LOVE this one! wow okay this is so much fun:
Petrosinella by Giambattista Basile, which is one of the origins of the Rapunzel fairytale! It's a Neapolitan fairytale where a pregnant woman steals parsley from an ogress and has to give up her baby as punishment. The ogress teaches the baby magic and when she grows up, she escapes using magic acorns that turn into animals to attack the ogress. It's very fun even aside from the whole hair thing.
Pintosmalto, again by Basile, where a woman who doesn't want to marry anyone her father chooses makes her perfect husband out of treasures that her father brings her instead; a queen steals the husband away and she has to go get him back.
I'm a sucker for the genre of Irish fairytales where a fairy king steals a queen or a bride and then her husband goes crazy trying to get her back. The one where Fionbharr steals Ethna is fun, the king literally digs all the way down into the fairy realm under a hill until he's close to destroying the palace and Fionbharr is like fiiine, take her back just don't mess up my house.
Similarly I love anything set in Tír na nÓg. I love Niamh and Oisín (and I really like Yeats' version!) Niamh takes Oisín to live in Tír na nÓg with her for what he thinks is 3 years, but is actually 300. He wants to go back to Ireland and she's like okay, but don't touch the ground; he goes back and falls off his horse and immediately ages 300 years and dies.
The Brown Bear of Norway is long and twisty and honestly needs a good retelling someday. When my dad read this story to me as a kid, I went around telling people I was going to marry a bear when I grew up, because to me the point of the story was she should've just dealt with him being a bear sometimes (I was unconcerned about the kidnapped children).
ask me top 5 anything! 🌱🌰🧚🏻🐻
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beesmygod · 2 years
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i think u scared off the liberal
good. i'd be lying to say it didnt get under my skin because even adam noticed it lol. if only it were as simple as "white artist bristles when confronted about a depiction of race" instead of "a frequently hammered nerve was struck involving things anon has no context for, intentionally". grrr growl!!! i tried to talk about this with other people and then pussed out bc i realized no one cares but me. so at least i can ramble about it on my own space.
long post ahead sorry~
even putting my neurosis aside, from where i'm standing, anon's overt discomfort with a depiction of an ethnicity or race involving the use of vernacular is some real fucking bird-brain shit. anon reads "huckleberry finn" and runs off to the library to have it banned for racism lol. like, we're talking that level of intellectual cowardice that turns tail and hides when made merely uncomfortable. anon subscribes to the school of thought that being mean and making me feel bad are the worst crimes someone could ever commit. if i want to be really mean, i think anon has never spoken to another latino person outside of a service worker context.
and like, i understand the initial bristle when confronted with it. it's not as though phonetic accent writing or vernacular usage can't be invoked for racist reasons. but you would literally have to try very hard to read jack, white man for hire, as anything other than the explicit butt of the joke. the latinas poking fun at his discomfort lol wait holy shit i just realized life imitated art. am i a secret genius after all......? (no)
here are the pages in question: i asked people on twitter what they thought but ofc that way i still only hear from people who are likely to ostensibly agree with me. (click for full)
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lol i just realized i missed an overlay layer on the third page. i should fix that.
this is a webcomic with almost, if not more than, 800 pages so some context: white spikey hair boy (jack) is from corpus christi, texas, a city on the gulf of mexico VERY close to the border. jack was always supposed to be from texas bc its a state i have some cultural understanding of. my dad grew up there. my dad is mexican-american. i am bi-ethnic. tri-ethnic, i guess, since the italian/irish half had a massive influence on me growing up as well.
the ladies are members of maxine's (the other protag's) witch coven. these women don't dress like this on a day to day basis (the one in the poncho might since she's a curandera, anyway), the outfits are like uhhh special occasion stuff. its your witch outfit. red bow is wearing like a day to day version of the traditional oaxaca outfits and has her hair pulled back in a traditional braid. the other is wearing just normal shit but with a traditionally patterned (or as much as i could bear to draw) poncho. the egg cleanse is a basic brujeria technique that like, every mexican family knows of at least lol. poncho is cutting the bad airs away, like in this video of a limpia.
the spit is my favorite part of all the limpias lol. WATER CANNON
all of this is just shit i know from growing up. i had to ask help on the spanish bc mine is a double whammy of being both terrible AND non-conversational (i learned all mine in textbooks ( ._.)) but the spanish code-switching to shit talk is how real people behave lol. i know this, because family and friends do it.
i take the character writing of this stupid comic more seriously than it probably deserves. i wanted to make sure it felt authentic and like these were "real" characters. having a world where the only people with personalities are the protagonists leads to a universe that feels flat and empty. a cardboard world. when i was able to use the women from a culture i know as a way to advance the plot, it was a small blessing lol. whew.
i dont really know how to talk about how this relates to me more in depth without compromising my belief that i have a right to privacy when it comes to my personal life lol. my entire existence exists on edges and borders that should not matter to anyone but me; but these details (ethnicity, race, sexuality, gender, etc and so on and you know) have a tendency to become the sole factor through which people view your work, your potential, and the expectations they begin to develop for you. currently, i think the expectations people have set for minority creators fucking sucks and i am relieved not to be a part of the ecosystem that rewards mediocrity and poor quality with accolades and purchases. looking at you, YA fiction and webtoons!!!
quite frankly: the more details people have about your life, the more they are able to scrutinize your authenticity based on their own biases (as the original anon did lol) or whether or not you are "deserving" of the descriptors that you are open about or accumulate over the years. i already have enough problems with this on my own directed at myself. i dont need input from the peanut gallery about my identity when its something ive struggled with and continue to struggle with my entire life.
i am not interested in bothering minority creators with my crybaby shit about how i feel alienated. i don't want inclusion to their groups centered around their unique and more specific experiences out of obligation when i realize the non-minority halves of me have also had massive influence on my upbringing and my beliefs. i dont like having to debates whether or not i am ____ enough to qualify for appearances on lists or databases or awards so i don't bother with any of it. i just want to grill for gods sake
anyway idk. im mad but i also realize a lot of my mad comes from offline baggage that no one is privy to on purpose so i have a hard time gauging how people will read how i write things. but bc i keep it tight to the chest i guess that invites random anons to speculate reasonably that i've transformed into a racist overnight bc they read a character say a double negative. dipshit. fucking moron
anyway
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