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microsuedemouse · 3 years

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5, 11, 14 for the salty ask game! ☆

I forgot to answer these sooner oooooops

I love these asks though lmao okay

5 - Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you?

hmmmm I feel like it's likely but I'm not coming up with any specific examples? I can say for sure that certain really volatile/discourse-y fandoms have made it hard for me to enjoy ship stuff in general at times. also Certain Fandom Attitudes have definitely made me very self-conscious about my ships, especially - in a bizarro-world kind of twist - m/f ones? like. it's weird but some fandoms seem to foster communities that get so attached to certain same-gender ships that having an m/f ship is like painting a target on your forehead. it's ridiculous, esp for a person who is... not straight herself...

((also, to be super clear: I'm talking about fans who are rabid for non-canon same-gender ships. shipping a canonically gay character in a 'het' ship is obviously weird as fuck, to say the least, and not a thing I support lmao.))

no wait I thought of one it's a bit obscure oops but. Karma/Nagisa in Assassination Classroom. I like Karma with Okuda more anyway but Karma and Nagisa are definitely extremely shippable! the problem here is that the fandom loves to depict Nagisa (a male character, for the record) in girls' clothes or otherwise being emasculated/feminised somehow, and they especially love to do it in the context of Karma/Nagisa ship stuff. and while I'm not against people who love to depict characters crossdressing or whatever - that's good stuff, it's fun - the story very clearly shows us that Nagisa hates being seen as girlish. he has long hair and is made to wear girls' outfits a few times in-canon, and it makes him miserable, which we eventually learn is bc his mom desperately wanted a daughter and now she makes him grow out his hair/try on dresses/etc. while she fantasises about having a daughter instead of a son. SO YEAH depicting Nagisa in skirts/dresses or otherwise forcing him into feminine roles just seems like a really shitty thing to do? and its prevalence in fandom put me off Karma/Nagisa content altogether. I enjoy their not-entirely-straight dynamic in-canon but I staunchly avoid fanart/fic about them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

11 - Is there an unpopular character you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why?

OH HMMMM. I'm trying to think of some older examples bc I literally don't pay enough attention to most fandoms anymore even to know which characters are actively unpopular lol. but honestly I'm wracking my brain and not coming up with anything??

14 - Unpopular opinion about your fandom?

l o l uhhhh

I mean I'm. SUPER choosy with what aspects of fandom I engage with at all at this point, largely because of how discourse-y and straight-up catty certain fandoms got while I was more active in them. so most of my unpopular opinions are very much in a bubble now, separated from Fandom At Large, like... ships I don't care for, or story decisions I didn't like, or whatever. and I don't even usually know they're unpopular.

the last truly contentious opinion I had and aired for a fandom was years ago with Camp Camp, when I took a stand on camper/counselor shipping. for those who don't know wtf I'm on about: a major ship in the CC fandom was (is? idk anymore) between a ten-year-old boy and a man who's in his early to mid-twenties (canonically 23 or 24 iirc?). and for some reason the fandom was increasingly divided on whether or not this was okay. there were people who were okay with it even if they didn't ship it, and there were people who were not okay with it. I came down emphatically on the latter side, if that's not obvious! I do not support shipping children with adults.

aaaaanyway yeah the fandom devolved into such a cesspit of discourse and pettiness and people being horrible to each other that I basically just dipped lol. it was sucking up so much energy just to passively read those posts when I didn't have to! and that was when I officially settled into my now-firm stance of engaging with fandom only by talking to a few select (sane) friends, occasionally reading fanfic that I like, and even more occasionally throwing my own fanfic over the fence for people to read if they are brave enough to step into the Fandom Yard.

HOO BOY I TALK SO MUCH MY APOLOGIES also lol Izu I'm sorry these are great questions I just didn't have very good answers lmao

it's been like a day and a half but if anybody else wants to ask me any salty fandom questions they're right here. (also I'll reblog them again in a sec.) I swear I have real answers

#survey #fandom

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shirosucc · 6 years

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voltron ask game

i havent done one of these in FOREVER but i was tagged by @gayhura !! thank u bby 💖💖💖

How did you discover the show?

i always peripherally knew of it when i was a yuri on ice blog. i had one mutual who was super into it but ironically she was a klanti. so i knew kl was a thing, i knew k and l were characters, but i didn’t know which was which. i blacklisted the ship tag bc they bored me and i was thoroughly uninterested in their relationship, which due to its prevalence and popularity i assumed to be basically canon already. one day a mutual rbed this (now deleted) nsfw sk art and i was like damn....... who’s the sexy cow man.... ppl really ship dark haired pretty boy w someone other than skinny green bean boy? so i went on the voltron wiki, learned all their names, started reading some sk fanfic because i was so determined to not get into the show. i was convinced i could just look at the pretty art and read the fic and not watch the show. clearly that was Not True

Was it love at first sight or did it take you a while to get into the the show?

my situation is weird so since i was already invested in the characters themselves (or two of them at least), i was pretty into the show from the very start. season 2 definitely solidified my love, but i was so into shiro and keith’s development both individually and as friends that it didn’t take much for me to start loving the show.

Do you have a favorite episode?

definitely s2e1 (across the universe) and s2e8 (bom). both very iconic sheith episodes. i also REALLY REALLY like s4e2 (reunion)... it made me cry like a little bitch baby even though i KNEW that pidge was gonna get reunited w/ matt.

Do you have a favorite Paladin?

i really love all of them a lot. i love shiro as a character, and also what he means for representation and what he means for my thirst levels, but ultimately keith is my favorite because i relate to him a lot and feel for him very intensely. i think he’s more complicated than fandom tends to like (ppl generally hate the things they don’t understand and i think keith is a prime example of that in a fandom where fandom needs everything spoonfed to them). i don’t understand the concept of kin (disclaimer: this is not an invitation to send me asks explaining what kin is to me) but keith is the closest i will ever come to kinning a character. i love him. he’s my darling boy. my son. light of my life. my babey. i’ll defend him until my dying breath and anyone who doesn’t like that can die mad about it.

Do you have a favorite Lion? (If it’s different from your fav Paladin, why?)

i like the red lion. you gotta earn her trust. she follows the rules of No Man. i understand that. i respect it. also she flew across space to save keith AND attacked an entire alien base to save him. if that’s not the biggest mood in the world idk what is.

Do you have a favorite Villian?

regular brain: he doesn’t really count as a ‘villain’ but i luv lotor with all my heart and soul. i think he’s a really complex character and i can’t quite figure him out but i think that’s a good thing. people in real life aren’t predictable, and fictional characters shouldn’t be either.

big galaxy brain: acxa............ hot

Do you have a favorite Alien Race? (Recurring and/or minor)

ARUSIANS!!! the arusians!!! they are so cute!!! i also think it’s so cute that a couple of them have designs based on real ppl who worked on the show. they look like tiny little dinosaur babies. i love them.

Favorite side / other character(s)- Rebels, Generals, Blade of Marmora, Garrison, etc?

blade of marmora... i know people LOVE to hate them (especially kolivan) but i am glad that they have a place for keith. i think they’re really really good for him. i wish they would stop dying tho.

How/Why did you join the fandom?

me: im not gonna get into voltron

me after seeing one picture of sk: ok im just gonna look at art

me after exhausting every artist’s sk tag: ok im just gonna read fic

me after exhausting the sk fic tag on ao3: ok im just gonna watch the episodes with shiro and keith

me after realizing that there is no list of episodes just focusing on shiro and keith: ok im gonna watch the show but i wont blog about it

me after watching the entire show in 3 days: ok im gonna blog about it but gen material only and i will never blog about ships.

me, 2 days later, on the literal day the guidebook ages came out: I WOULD SHOVE AN ENTIRE FIST UP MY ASS FOR SHIRO AND KEITH. TOGETHER. INDIVIDUALLY. AS A COUPLE. IN LOVE. I WANT THEM TO HOLD HANDS AND KISS TENDERLY AND TALK ABOUT HAVING A LIFE TOGETHER AFTER THE WAR IS OVER. AND I WANT THEM TO ADOPT A BABY GIRL AND NAME HER LIA. THEN I WANT THEM TO B

Care to share your favorite headcanon?

this one will never be canon (dw... why) but original garrison trio keith shiro and matt is my favorite hc in the world. they took away so much from us. we could’ve had it all. is this how it feels to be slighted by an ex.

What do you think is the best part of the show?

i think it’s really accessible to a wide demographic of fans, and across a lot of ages. younger children who are fans of the show can focus on the fight scenes and cool robots and messages about hope and friendship and bravery. older fans can, among other things, focus on the relationships between characters, and then threaten to kill each other over those relationships. it’s really beautiful. circle of life.

Any hopes and wishes for future episodes / seasons?

please let my little boy (keith) come back from the war (i want to see my little boy)

Do you think you’ll stick it out until the end of the show?

yeah i’m too far gone. we’re in this for the long haul babey. i’ll be walking across the graduation stage at cornell in 2020 being like dam.... wonder if we’re gonna finally get some project kuron resolution...

Tag your friends or someone you want to get to know better:

literally everyone has been doing this i cant keep track but im gonna tag @phaltu @kcgane @bottomnoctis @curdleddoodle @exitlude @nitorai @amaanogawa @sctvrns @nayuhs @kerberosheith and @saltyshiro

#tag games #feel free to ignore but this is a fun one!!

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bartsugsy · 7 years

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Which period of relationship has been your favourite and which has been your least favourite? Boyfriends, fiances, just marrieds or exesbutclearlystillinlove? and why.. For whenever you next have spare time to answer, I always enjoy reading your insightful Robron posts :)

ooohh ajsksk this is sO HARD BECAUSE THERE ARE POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES IN EACH OF THE ERAS AND LIKE… THEY’RE HARDCORE POSITIVES AND HARDCORE NEGATIVES BUT OK I’M GONNA DO THIS

So my brain roughly sort of splits it all up as:

Pre-affair era

Affair era

First and Second Break up era

Abuse era

Boyfriend era

Fiancé era

Husband era

Third break up era

U KNO IM JUST GONNA SIT HERE AND RANK THEM BECAUSE I LOVE AND HATE THEM ALL OK LETS GO

also happy long post day, this shit is going under a cut

ROBRON ERAS RANKED FROM WORSTEST TO BESTEST

7. FIRST / SECOND BREAK UP ERA

Now on the one hand... OK THIS IS WHY THIS IS HARD BECAUSE THIS ERA HAS MY FAVOURITE STRING OF EPISODES BUT ALSO MY LEAST FAVOURITE STRING OF EPISODES -. Ultimately the "least favourite" string lasts way way longer than the good stuff, which is why it's sitting pretty at the bottom. But like. The good stuff is real damn good.

CRYIN IN A GOOD WAY OVER: Cain vs Robert, Aaron to the rescue, FLIRTY! FARMING! FUN!, the portacabin, THE GOD DAMNED LODGE, some of who shot robert, some of the affair reveal, everything about robert getting aaron out of prison

CRYIN IN A END IT ALL HERE WAY OVER: most of who shot robert, most of the affair reveal, ☠️Donny☠️

IN CONCLUSION: ok ok oK DONT GET ME WRONG. THE GOOD STUFF IS FUCKIN INCREDIBLE AND MONUMENTAL AND WHAT ULTIMATELY MADE ME THE HARDCORE SHIPPER I AM TODAY. SO. I HELLA WOULD NOT BE HERE WITHOUT IT. I ACTUALLY WOULDN’T THAT WHOLE LITTLE BIT OF TIME IS EMOTIONALLY WHAT LED ME HERE. IT SHOULD BE HIGHER TBQH.

I JUST HATE THE DONNY PERIOD THAT MUCH.

6. AFFAIR ERA

WHERE IT ALL STARTED. ICONIC. GREAT. ENJOYED IT ALL BUT… IT NEVER QUITE REACHES THE HEIGHTS OF ANY OTHER ERA IMO. THERE’S A LOT OF GOOD BUT NONE OF IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE ME THROW IN EVERYTHING I OWNED AND COMMIT MYSELF TO THEM FOREVER.

THE GOOD SHIT CELEBS ARE BUYIN: HOOOOME FAAARRRRM WEEEEEEEK, that time rob killed katie and had to go to his own wedding immediately afterwards, christmas, the barn, the hotels, just… all the sexin’, rob telling aaron he pushed katie, high! drama! everywhere also the fact that they literally jumped straight into a relationship after two bones is incredible.

THE STUFF THE RANDO IN THE TOILETS IS TRYING TO SHIFT ON U: rmr how we never actually knew whether rob was being sincere at any point, aaron ending up in hospital and everything being terrible, their relationship was just pretty awful as a whole tbh lbr

IN CONCLUSION: GET READY FOR THIS CONTROVERSIAL OPINION BUT LIKE… everything in this era was reaching highs of 7 where every other era has stuff that, to me, hits highs of 52? On the other hand, the lows are much higher than every other era - this is the one era where you can say that as much as nothing soars quite as high as SSW, but equally, nothing is hitting the lows of rebecca. I look back on this era a lot more fondly than I felt about it originally and I'm trying not to rely too heavily on my hindsighty feelings because that's unfair to more recent eras. So. NO RISK NO REWARD KIDS. THIS BAD BOY IS GETTIN PLACED DOWN LOW AF SORRY SON

5. BOYFRIEND ERA

OH MAN THEY!!!! ARE!!!! BOYFRIENDS!!!! AND THERE’S NUTHIN BUT DRAMA AND PAIN. COOL.

LIVIN MY LIFE AND LOVIN MY TIME: REUNION BABYYYYY, Rob basically moving in immediately, Rob actually moving in, Rob and Liv bonding, ~Get stuck in~, slowly understanding that DOMESTICITY WOULD BE THE WAY FORWARD FOR A BIT AND GETTING A HELL OF A LOT OF IT

HATIN THE WORLD AND BEING SAD AT MY SCREEN: The Chill™ was a thing. Memories.

IN CONCLUSION: IT WAS GREAT ONCE THEY WORKED OUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING BUT THEN IT WAS A LITTLE BORING AND ALSO CHRANDY

4. HUSBAND ERA

THE ERA OF BIG! FUCKIN! INCREDIBLE! EPISODES! AND PRECIOUS FUCK ALL IN BETWEEN.

TOLD ME THEY LOVED ME AND ONLY ME: THE WEDDING, THE GOODBYE EP, THE FIRST PRISON VISIT, THE ROBLIVION EP, THE ONS YEAH ITS IN HERE I FUCKIN SAID IT WELCOME TO CONTROVERSY LAND STARRING ME IT’S FASCINATING ROBERT CHARACTER WORK IMO, CHAS FINDING OUT, THE REUNION, THE REVEAL, MY BEAUTIFUL HUSBAND WHO I LOVE AND THE EPISODES EITHER SIDE, THE WEED HEIST PLUS THE MIIIIIIILL

KNOCKED UP THEIR EX: well… rob knocked up his ex didn't he

IN CONCLUSION: if I were to rank these eras by how much fun I had in fandom this would be at both the top and the bottom and lbr…. lbr that about sums up this era in general, doesn't it? Horrendous, horrible, terrible pacing - everything post-incident pre-Aaron getting out and everything before the reveal and urgjejd why…. BUT but but the good stuff was just… legendary. that’s why this shit is bang fuckin in the middle.

3. THIRD BREAK UP ERA

CURRENT DAY TIMES THIS IS IT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. And I’m sure this will change when the era is over but like. My current rn feelings are all for it.

PARTY ALL NIGHT: THE BREAK UP! EVERY SINGLE ROBRON SCENE SINCE THEN. EVERY SINGLE ONE IM NOT JOKING THEYRE ALL ICONIC! THE FESTIVAL AND FUCKIN JASON COMING BACK AND BEING HORRIBLE AND WORRIED AARON AND WORRIED ROBERT AND THE BARTSY AND BARTSUGSY AND THE TWO OF THEM GOING OFF THE RAILS IN THEIR OWN SPECIAL WAYS AND JUST. THEYRE SO FUCKING IN LOVE. PLUS ROB IS GETTING A NUTTY #WILD STORYLINE AND THEY MADE ME INVESTED IN THE STUPID PLOT BABY FROM THE SHEER LOLS OF IT ALL AND THE ROB/LARRY MESS AND JUST AARON AND ROBERT GUYS THEYRE IN LOOOOOVEEEEEEEEEEEEE AND ITS JUST SOMEHOW SO MUCH EASIER THAN BEFORE LIKE THEY NEEDED THIS STUPID BREAK UP GUYS I WILL DEFEND IT WITH MY LIFE AND MY SOUL

DISCONNECT MY INTERNET AND CRY: where's my make outs. also it's painful and sad. also we all have to come to terms with plot baby. did i mention it's sad af? the lead up to the break up was the worst too like murder me right here why

IN CONCLUSION: IM RIDE OR DIE ABOUT IT ALL UNTIL THEY FUCK IT UP BUT ITS STILL SAD AS HELL

2. ABUSE ERA

Can u believe this time was real no me neither

IT WAS THE BEST OF TIMES: THE SMITTEN KITTEN DATE, rob being ride or die aaron and aaron slowly growing to trust rob again because of it, ILL WAIT FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!, the whole best friends who are totally in love but not in the right place to do anything about it vibe,

IT WAS THE WORST OF TIMES: it was hardcore A Lot because of the subject matter but mostly they knocked it out of the damn park and so idk what the bad would be honestly it was just… real good

IN CONCLUSION: just real real good and like… as a redemption storyline for rob and a vehicle for danny to do his thing and fuckin kill it and liv’s entrance… oh i just love it my dudes (but i can't rank it right at the top purely because it's TOO MUCH to rewatch on the reg for me because it is so big and heavy and dramatic)

1. FIANCE ERA

THIS COVERS EVERYTHING FROM JUST BEFORE ROBERT PROPOSES TO JUST BEFORE THE WEDDING. IT WAS… PRETTY BIG. Pretty… big….

‘GOLD.MP3′: SSW. There’s other stuff but like. Who cares. That’s enough of an explanation. Tbh.

THE FUTURE POP ONE HIT WONDER ‘POOP EMOJI.WMA’: Rob and Rebecca kissing that one time (hilarious but pointless). Rob and Rebecca kissing that second time (less hilarious slightly less pointless). The general Aaron being jealous at all times and prevalence of Rob/Rebecca and just… the absence of fun things… outside of a few key episodes. The whole initial weirdness over buying the Mill that I still hate bc it completely ignored Robert’s presence.

IN CONCLUSION: THE LOWS ARE REAL FUCKIN LOW KIDS LIKE IT GETS BORING AF TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR. ALSO ALL OF NOVEMBER UP UNTIL MAXINE’S EPISODE WAS WANK. T B Q H. THE GOOD STUFF THOUGH… THE GOOD STUFF IS THE STUFF THAT I REWATCH AS OFTEN AS A HUMAN BEING CAN. EVERY BIG ARGUMENT. THE!!! JANUARY!!!!! ARGUMENT!!!!!!!!!! AARON’S BIRTHDAY! AARON ROBBING HOME FARM, THE PUB QUIZ, ALL THE BARTSUGSY, CHRISTMAS. AND. YOU KNOW. SSW. WAS. OK. I GUESS. YEAH. NO RISK NO REWAAAAARD!!!!

HON. MENTION: PRE-AFFAIR ERA

LITERALLY PERFECT IN EVERY WAY BUT I CANNOT JUSTIFIABLY RANK IT ALONGSIDE ALL THESE OTHER MUCH MEATIER ERAS, GIVEN THAT IT LASTED ABOUT 3 EPISODES BC THEY COULDN’T ACTUALLY KEEP IT IN THEIR PANTS IF THEY TRIED

AND ROBERT SURE DID TRY

DURING THAT… ONE HOUR… WHEN HE WAS BANGING CHRISSIE… uh.

~~~~ THE END FOR NOW ~~~~

#this ask was... a true blessing #i had way too much fun #emmerdale meta #robron #ed #answering anons #THIS IS ALL HIGH CONTROVERSY I FEEL IT IN MY BONES

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