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daisywords · 7 months
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little sketch of Alya in one of her earliest iterations
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11yo me's super special main character girl oc
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imthepunchlord · 2 months
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Actually, we do have some information about Max in the concept stage. I think this is his earliest version (which also had him tied to Nino)
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Later versions of him had him be something antagonist along with Kim, and most of the class (they were all kind of jerks, like if you read some of Sabrina's old bios, you'll notice few details might have carried over into Lila.). I also think he had a crush on Sabrina at this to.
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The only ones spared this treatment were Marinette, Alya, Adrien, (possibly Nino,) Alix (who was apparently going to be part of the main cast), Nathaniel (this also where his crush on Marinette came from, and think he was also supposed to be very clumsy), Juleka (who was supposed to have a crush on Nathaniel), and Rose. Also, apparently had a grandma who would have served as something of a mentor for some characters.
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Let's just say a lot of the weird one-off early season one weridness makes a lot more sense when you see the concept stuff.
I had wiped the image of early concept of Nino from my mind. I was fine thinking Gavroche was like early concept thoguht for Nino/Carapace. Why would you bring this back? Why did they think that was a good design to keep around?
Either way, good to know, I take back the earlier theory/speculation. And man, Edwin looks like younger PV Felix, which makes me wonder if they were ever thought to be related. I don't think I've ever seen it proposed on what Felix's last name was going to be, maybe it was Agreste but I thought the fandom hopped onto that thought. If not, it's a good thing they changed him up. I think both Max and Nino are better design wise. And I guess that's where Nino's sudden crush on Marinette came from, it was an older concept idea that carried over.
Kim I'm not too surprised. Miraculous as a whole was lacking antagonistic boys, closest was Kim around the beginning, then he became a himbo, and then I heard he got ruined in s5. Which from what I hear, yeah that's bad, but because I haven't watched it, it's like a disconnected fact.
But yeah, this does explain a lot. And it just works off this show's record of making changes to the concept, but also just sticking with them as well and not fully committing to those changes.
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taldigi · 6 months
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What's so wrong with me suggesting that maybe the Toei PV was animated based on a different concept/design than the version shown in the art book? The non-cane one could be an older concept, and the cane was developed later? Toei's data hasn't been leaked yet. I'm fine with either version. I don't get what you're trying to say. Are you saying there should be more fans who make Felix with a cane, or are you saying that people making Felix without the cane are wrong?
cherry picking pre/canon is tradition. There is lots I hate about pre/canon, including how they handled Felix' disability.
But this fandom loves to use ideas from precanon and fanon in PV fan media. Under your train of thought, explain the ring curse. Explain "Bridgette", explain why people still write or depict richard/gabriel/papillon as his father. Explain why people put the QK in as the friend group? cause those things sure as hell aren't "toei's version" but they have become quintessential to the PV experience. (as much as i severely dislike some of these fandom ideas)
And you know what, yeah, fuck it. yeah! I think people who are open to adapting those ideas to their headcanon are kind of boring for disregarding his disability. Because.. why NOT? It adds a layer to him that makes him more interesting then "Rich White Blonde Tsundere" and the thinly veiled "I hate my wife" humor that comes with the Pucca/SonicAmy-esque dynamic
But PV wasn't a full grasp on the world. It was an animation test with exaggerated dynamics.
The PV alone is BORING.
Fanon around it THRIVES on headcanon and adaptions from other precanon and canon media. We didn't even have Alya make an appearance, and she's been in the precanon since some of the earliest versions- HELL, outside of the main 2 and the villain, she's one of the most important characters. (We didn't see Null either!)
If you want to be a "PV/Toei purist", fine. But don't claim "Toei's Version" as an excuse to disregard that aspect of his character and still use shit like Bridgette or the QK. Just say you don't feel comfortable or versed enough to be depicting a disabled character (Zag sure as hell wasn't!) cause guess what?? thats ok!!
He wasn't disabled in all versions of himself- and he probably wasn't disabled in PV- just around the same time as the PV. But, making "Toei's Version" arguments as a "reason", makes it sound less like you're trying to make a point, and more like you are trying to justify a reason to not depict Felix as disabled.
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sunfoxfic · 2 years
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A,F and K for the ask game
A: Of the fanfic you’ve written, which is your favorite and why?
Strangely Familiar 100%. Not only is it super personal to me, but it just feels so put together compared to every other story of this size I've written. I reread every chapter every week when I publish, and at this point I wrote everything at least 4 months ago except for the very end, if not way longer, and every week I expect to come back to something that totally ruins the thematic cohesion of the fic, or creates a massive plot hole, but... I never do.
I worry a lot about whether I'm actually giving these characters depth and characterization; is the plot a result of their characterization, or is their characterization a result of what's convenient for the plot? And so I'm looking at this fic in some of the worst faith that I can, but it always comes out ahead. Especially Alya's arc... most of what I wrote for her was by accident, if I'm being honest. But the more I go over it in my head, the more thematically cohesive it is, the more all of her motivations make sense, and just.... I can't believe that I went into this fic thinking it would be 30k max, barely caring about DJWifi as a ship (surprisingly, but absolutely honestly). I hadn't written anything of this size in a year, and I hadn't finished anything of this size in 2 or 3, so I went into this fic never expecting it to turn out the way it did, and now we're getting to chapter 20 where things finally get interesting, and I'm just... I'm so glad.
I'm just really glad with how it turned out.
F: Is there a song or a playlist to associate with [insert fic]?
Strangely Familiar does have a playlist! The standout song is definitely 3 O'Clock Things by AJR, though, which is the song the fic was based on, in fact. The earliest version of the fic was actually an animatic I was directing in my head, and it was love square centric. When I started refining the ideas into specific scenes, though, I realized that the individual verses (the first one being about how f***ed the music industry is, the second being about being anxious around friends, and the third being about politics) matched Alya and Nino way better than Adrien and Marinette. I have no idea when this turned into a roommates AU but it did, and the rest is history.
(The line "Maybe sex is overrated and we're too shy to ever say it" is actually the reason I included asexual Nino in this fic, lmao. Also a fanart by Buggachat of Nino with the ace flag, but I probably wouldn't have included it if not for that line.)
K: Do you have a guilty pleasures in fic (reading or writing)?
The answer to this is no but I'm telling you confidently that if the answer were yes, I would not tell you what they are. That s*** stays in my Google Drive lmao.
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alexseanchai · 3 years
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Fanfic 2020 in Review
I got tagged by @kasienda @noirshitsuji and @marvelousmsmol and I am tagging whoever wants to play!
1) List of fics completed this year in the order they were finished:
*filters own works to complete and updated in 2020*
1 - 20 of 57 Works by AlexSeanchai
nope. *adds filter to include only works of at least 1000 words*
unless otherwise indicated, these are all Miraculous Ladybug:
“don’t bake it lying down”, post-reveal Marichat vs Felix Graham de Vanily
“veracity”, canon divergence from “Ladybug” featuring Mister Bug and Verity Queen (so also Marichat, I guess)
“(no request is too extreme, if) your heart is in your dream”, in which Hawkmoth wins, for the thirty seconds or so before Emilie saves Ladybug and Chat Noir’s lives
“tell me you love me and make me believe it”, in which trans girl Chatonne Noire ropes Ladybug into helping plan her civilian self’s escape slash social transition
“kingmaker, oathbreaker”, in which Hawkmoth wins and Emilie watches her son remove himself from the family
“stay and let me watch you break it down” (Twelve Dancing Princesses), a modern setting
“set a course for winds of fortune”, in which trans girl Chatonne Noire has already escaped and Gabriel and Nathalie are trying to bring Gabriel’s son home
“we ground love in a hopeless place”, in which post-reveal Marinette’s attempt to remain resolutely not in love with her partner dissolves like sugar in coffee when they start a pun war
“ring the bells that still can ring”, in which Alya is deeply confused about why Adrien and Marinette are planning a wedding when last night both were single
“burning wishes at both ends (the cold wind and long loud wail remix)”, in which Gabriel made a monkey’s paw wish and Emilie makes another
“words cannot espresso”, in which Marinette’s OC roommate is justifiably worried for Marinette’s safety, and meanwhile Adrien takes care of Marinette
“the compromise of truth” (the chronologically second-earliest part posted to date of nine lives, snake’s eyes), in which Adrien tells his friends how he won some freedom and respect from his father
“At The Present Time”, the Ladrien/Ladynoir marriage proposal follow-up to @art-deco-shrimp‘s  “Your Presents Required”
“j'ai rêvé (so I don't have to dream alone)”, in which the events of canon must just have been a series of dream sequences, Marinette and Adrien both think, until they both arrive at Chloe’s Halloween masquerade dressed as themselves from the dreams
2) Number of words written:
ahahaha no. I am not counting all my scattered fic drafts and trying to figure out what I did and didn’t write in 2020. I refuse.
AO3 says I posted 162K in 2020. it is counting all of keeps you guessing (like any real love), which (a) I started posting in 2019 (b) is co-written by @galahadwilder​; it is counting all of my meta snippets collection, much of which was written in 2019; it is counting the Vimeo passwords for my vids. but I probably cleared 150K by a safe margin.
3) Your most popular fic:
“veracity” has a four-digit kudos count, wow, when’d that happen? this is also the 2020 work with the most hits and the most bookmarks, but “tell me you love me” has four-thirds as many comments as its nearest competitor.
4) Your personal fav:
“cannot break us, not with a thousand swords”, no question about it. this is the one in which Ladybug proposes marriage to Chat Noir via Princess Bride meme on Tumblr. (if you intend to download the work or otherwise to consume it with creator style off, you want the accessible version instead of the primary version.)
5) Your fav scene:
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—okay so this is cheating and I know it, since Uncertain Humors (the one where Marinette/Adrien is both Orpheus/Eurydice and Theseus/Ariadne) is nowhere near finished, never mind posted (maybe I'll get “Sanguine” done to post on my birthday?)
but it is still my favorite of the year. as you might guess from that description of the story, this scene has content notes for character death:
Hell is a maze. Marinette walks.
This acrid passage has little to see but damp stone, seeming blood-stained in the dim carmine light. At about the height of her heart, the faintly glowing thread cuts through the not-clammy air; it ought to be pulsing at the same rate as the heart it's bound to. She might be able to see her own reflection if she looked down at the open sewage pipe, or at one of the puddles that now and again she splashes through, dampening the canvas of her shoes. She might see reflected what's behind her.
She remembers Mme. Mendeleiev lecturing on human physiology. In healthy humans old enough to have learned how, urination is a voluntary action: one may not know which muscles one tenses and relaxes in order to do so, and probably isn't paying attention to those details when one is doing, but one has conscious control over whether one does. Usually. Stress and anxiety mean some people are unable to relax the relevant sphincter muscle and others are unable to stop themselves. It's voluntary for cats, too: it's one way they mark their territories. Cat-boys have other ways.
There is a moment in every human life when all one's muscles relax at once. Some Parisians have had several such moments.
The thread is braided with itself around her left fourth finger, rows of tiny red half-hitch knots, and falls loosely over the back of her hand to loop twice around her wrist. She holds it wrapped between the fingers of her right hand to keep it at a constant tension, as though knitting with this insubstantial thread, so fragile for something two (two dozen, two million) lives hang from—too thin to sew with, no thicker than one strand of his hair. As she walks, she winds it around and around and around her wrist.
Between her ring finger and her right hand, it loops twice.
Marinette's shoe lands in a puddle she didn't see. The rainwater splashes soundlessly onto her bare ankle and on the stone.
(With cat-like tread, upon our prey we steal— It's a very loud song.)
She walks on.
6) A fic or scene that challenged you:
where the firelight fades, no contest. this is the second story I’ve ever been able to stick with more than a couple hundred words past the 20K mark, but it’s easily the twentieth novel-length I’ve begun. (though also, you know that kedreeva post? well, 90K later, I’m less than 15K from completing this 10K fic! I think.) and I have been learning so much about long-form fiction.
there has also been a lot of weeping and tearing my hair. case in point: I just trashed the chapter 15 draft because I figured out the reason it wasn’t going anywhere! I can probably keep the first few hundred words of that draft without any editing, and another few hundred with some revision...
7) A line of writing you’re proud of:
from “j'ai rêvé (so I don't have to dream alone)”:
Everything about their partnership is fragments of sentences in the dream diary Adrien writes in ultraviolet pen. Disjointed flickers of thought even when examined under the black light he hides in the snack cabinet under packets of Super Yoyo sandwich cookies and bags of cheesy Monster Munch potato chips and boxes of petit écolier butter cookies (chocolat noir)—none of which explains the gym-socks smell. All fleeting incoherent flashes, invisible between the mundane lines of La Modification shelved at his bedside between Leroux and Dumas. None of it is solid. Adrien has more proof his room's haunted.
okay let me break this down for you!
* Adrien started a dream diary to make sense of the memories
* in invisible ink, in a book that (according to Wikipedia) is thematically appropriate and won’t (if Gabriel sees it) look like anything other than Adrien developing an interest in French literature
* shelved between Phantom of the Opera and The Three Musketeers
* look I didn’t come up with the name “black light”
* or “chocolat noir” for what English speakers call “dark chocolate”, or “petit écolier” (that is, “little schoolboy”) for that sort of butter cookie
* also not my fault that “chocolat noir” sounds remarkably like “Chat Noir”, which, attentive readers may have noticed, is not a name that appears in the story after the header and before Miraculous Cure
* I found the website of a store in Boston, Massachusetts that caters to French expats, and the yo-yo cookies and the monster chips were right there in the photos, y’all
* the snack stash and the black light live in the cabinet where, in canon, the Camembert lives; yes, that cheese smells in the real world like gym socks
* this story’s akuma was not able to affect anything but squishy human memory: nobody affected remembers anything about Ladybug or Chat Noir or Hawkmoth, not in any solid way, not even when they read news articles about the subject, and this includes Marinette and Adrien not being able to see or hear or remember their own kwamis—but you know what Adrien’s Insta post about his poltergeist and Adrien’s Insta post with the floating sock don’t show and don’t explicitly refer to?
* I love this paragraph so much (my housemates may have been lovingly mocking me over it)
8) A comment that touched you:
there are people (y’all know who you are) who said y’all are studying my style. I ded of blush.
9) Something that inspired your writing:
by volume of fic drafts that can be blamed on any particular person, the winner is probably @norakwami​
10) Your proudest accomplishment (that one scene; finally finishing that one fic; posting your first fic; etc):
so that longest-story-ever-written record I set in 2007 with the 89.5K story that, till where the firelight fades, was the only story I’d gotten much past 20K?
I broke that fucking record!
and then I deleted the draft of firelight chapter 15 😭
11) Do you have any writing goals for the next year?
I’m starting work on a fantasy novel, a Sleeping Beauty retelling in which I explore (among other things) the economic consequences of the king’s ordering all the spinning wheels burned, and I want to make significant progress on that. and I want to not make my hands any worse; I kind of need those!
(breaking news alert: bodies fucking suck. so does giving yourself repetitive stress injuries in doing one and a half to two people’s worth of work for an organization that was never ever going to pay you more than one person’s worth of pay.)
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