#s2 and s5 were probably the best and they're still so far from good for her

[nolivingsoul]

if 7x12/7x13 aren't the last episodes in the 50s I'm afraid roberto will surpass ryan murphy in my shit list because you can't, after choosing to not wrap everyone's story in s6, spend so much time of your last season ever in a time where your characters don't remember who they are. ten episodes was my limit and they're filming 7x11 now 😵‍💫 it's not something satisfying to watch as a viewer, and especially after mistreating the bad deviant lesbian ship 🤪 like they PLAN to reunite them?? they PLAN to give them an happy ending so???? and throwing some random issues in their relationship during the last two seasons knowing damn well they need an on screen resolution, conversations and to be shown in an adult functional relationship for enough time while choosing to not give them that payback is a choice. it should be obvious but roberto doesn't give a fuck about dykes so. could've been fun had season 6 was used to tell a story tho but it wasn't the case so here we are

#he really graduated from the ryan murphy school of showrunners lmao #and even ryan aka the blueprint when it comes to lesbophobic showrunnes gave brittana a satisfying ending #like does roberto realize that its not a good look to use s5 and 6 to develop two straight relationships while ignoring the lesbian one or #it'd be one thing had they give them a good treatment throughout the whole show but they did NOT #just spit in my face and call me a dyke next time @ ras #and do not get me started on toni's treatment as a character because man #i can't name one season out of the five she was in when she was treated in a decent way #s2 and s5 were probably the best and they're still so far from good for her #s6 started well but went downhill quickly #and here i was hoping s7 would be her season but lmao #with the show spending half of its time in the 50s I'm not counting on it #because at the end of the day it's present day toni i want to see win #but whatever i guess #wanting a character to be treated decently is probably too much to ask for #riverdale negativity

[chonidale]

in level of importance and best content how would you rank rvd seasons for choni? i would say s7 is by far their best but the others are kind of difficult to rank

not sure what you mean by importance, but yes, s7 is by far their best and most consistent in terms for the amount and quality of their content. i think it's much harder to rank the other seasons because there's pros and cons and ups and down to all of them but maybe:

s7: like i said, by far the best, easily the season that's put the most care into their arc. the fact that it's not only their best season, but also the only season where they're the ship getting the best content makes it a no brainer.

s4: i'm counting the original intended last 3 episodes in with this season. obviously the corpse plot left a LOT to be desired, but they were so domestic and cute during it and didn't fight and it showed the strength of their relationship to me, even if they tried to taint it in retrospect. and i think the show did a much better job of still giving them things to do and moments even when they didn't have an ongoing storyline for most of the second half of the season.

s3: i think 3b is probably the strongest half season for choni, other than s7, but 3a is so bad for them that it brings s3 down. the angst was nonsensical but the pay off was good and the farm is probably my favorite of their plots. but again, they just got absolutely nothing to do and only two one-on-one scenes from 301-308, so.

s2: they had such a solid start but then totally fizzled out once they got together. still bitter about all the deleted scenes, though those only went up to 218 anyway, after that they were just straight up ignored. still, obviously a lot of really iconic and important scenes for them and when most of us started shipping them, so i'll put it a little bit above 6.

s6: as much fun as i had with s6, it wasn't that fun to be a choni. but 6x04 and 6x22 are two of the best episodes of the entire series, and certainly two of the best choni episodes, and the canon reincarnated soulmates was integral to salvaging the mess they made of their storyline, so it's a super important season for them. just not one with a lot of good content outside of two episodes.

s5: again, this is only counting the time jump episodes, but by far their worst season (and of the show imo). it started out strong with those first two episodes and then they took a complete 180 and shit all over them, then toni was missing for a million years and then they had two good scenes and t*ngs happened out of absolutely nowhere. just a miserable, miserable time for chonis.

[illgiveyouahint]

i feel like i need to let someone know that i'm really surprised by how well this druck season is working?? we're all sad time after time, because we can see how self destructive nora is but where the skam fr season seemed so sensationalised, there's something so painfully real... Nora has these moments of being a kid and having fun, but she's convinced herself she has to be the grown up in a familial relationship that she has to hide away at the expense of everything else in her life, and it works so well. we want her to succeed, and she seems like she can, I'm just... she is precious

Hello anon :))

it really is working well, isn't it? There was a big part of the fandom who was sceptical or straight-up rejecting the new gen but I always knew if anyone can do it it's Druck. 

But even I must say they've surpassed my expectations. I admit I wasn't that much into the idea of Kiki's sister having a season. I thought this is gonna be the sort of interim season while we wait for the jünglinge to take over but I am amazed how invested I am in this season already and how much I care for Nora and all the other characters.

I haven't seen skamfr's s5 and s6 because I knew they're not gonna be able to pull it off and from what I hear I was right. Skamfr to me always felt like the show that cares more about how it looks than what it says. And like you said it tends to sensationalise things without thinking it through or making it feel realistic. while realism is one of the things that people loved about og skam. 

with druck I knew that even though they do fuck up from time to time they always have the best intentions and they do genuinely try to research the topics they want to talk about and listen to what the audience is saying without pandering to them. I still remember when an interview came out after s1 where pola beck talked about how she's aware of the LGBTQ+ viewers and how she got feedback on maybe including trans themes. And voilá s3! And you know as much as I hate how it was done I'm pretty sure they made Mia bisexual also because they wanted to be more inclusive of wlws. and when the mess of s2 and s4 and partially s3 happened and people were saying that people who are not queer and/or poc shouldn't be writing about these stories, they got in touch with Jünglinge so that we do have queer writers of color. They listen. they really listen and that's why I knew if anyone can do a good original season it'll be them.

I'm so happy with how they're handling this topic. Alcoholism is such a real and common thing and yet it's rarely properly talked about. It's so normalised in our everyday life but then on tv you only ever see alcoholics and addicts as either as these “other people” who just bother you on the street or if it is someone from the family it is usually an abusive creepy alcoholic dad or uncle or something. Like you rarely see the actual humans who suffer from it, you never see the actual effects it has on everybody. You only see the stereotypical sensational twisted view of it. So I'm so glad Druck is opening the theme up and with such nuance so far. we're seeing the three sisters at different stages, we're seeing the mother as both the loving parent who cooks for Nora and plays board games with her while also being absent and manipulative and reckless and selfish. we see the person and we see how much it affects them and how much it affects everyone around them. Now that's some good storytelling if you ask me.

Of course, they can still fuck it up. They probably will fuck it up somehow at some point but that's okay. Druck has proven to me so many times that even if they fuck up they still do a better job than 90% of television shows nowadays.

Anyway once again probably a longer answer than you wanted but you should know that I tend to talk too much. Thank you so much for sending this to me <3  May Nora have a lovely night tonight and no drama and let her be happy little kid for once.

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