#viv critical

[fortunelowtier]

on this weeks episode of "Why Vivienne Medrano is an awful human being and you shouldn't be supporting her", Viv posts photos of herself visiting a cafe known for animal abuse and takes pictures going "awww!" next to visibly abused, depressed, and stressed birds who are tied to their perches with such short ropes they're unable to fly even if they wanted to

shortly after this, she went and got Starbucks and McDonalds

#vivziepop critical #viv critical #vivziepop #tw animal abuse

[theoddest1]

You ever just know someone is so horrid and manipulative and assume you can't dislike them further, but then you do, and you're just angered and annoyed that someone this repugnant thinks their hot shit for being a controlling spoiled little brat? Yeah, that's me rn.

"Jeapordize"

"Not invited"

The people who volunteered to work on the pilot, who gave it their all and genuinely loved the characters, the cast, the Fandom, and the creator all at one point...treated in such a way. One member, seemingly threatened by Viv, could not participate or take any sort of part in this love letter, or else his job as Striker will be on the line is some of the most manipulative and controlling things Viv has consistently done. But fans will sit here and act like this is normal. It's not normal. Why would his job be on the line for participating in a lovely goodbye? Nothing about this is normal, nor should it be normal. Nothing about any of this is good. It's extremely divisive and horrid.

And her seemingly seemingly cutting ties, ignoring, or not inviting the cast that helped bring the pilot to life to see the opening for the show they've waited so long to become a full on show, and who have helped promote it for years...

The very thought of even REPLACING EVERYONE wouldn't be on my mind (ofc unless there comes complications or a problematic situation or revelation occurs)

Not after all the beautiful work and passion they put into everything.

I couldn't imagine doing this to any group of friends who have been so kind, loyal, and loving towards me and my works. I couldn't imagine not inviting those who helped me get this far to the premiere of the show they helped build along with me. I can't imagine dumping them all after years of commitment to MY ideas nor can I imagine failing to promote and uplift their works after they have done so with mine.

This is low. This is very low. Idc what excuse you throw. This behavior on Vivziepop's part is ludicrous.

EDIT:

Were not initially paid...

#hazbin hotel criticism #hazbin hotel critical #hazbin hotel critique #hazbin hotel #Hazbin #Vivziepop #vivziepop fandom #vivziepop critical #vivziepop criticism #viv get a grip #vivziepop archive #vivienne medrano #Youtube

[chaifootsteps]

That's the vocal director for the Hazbin pilot, by the way.

#hazbin hotel critical #viv stuff #Hazbin Hotel #vivziepop #vivziepop critical #actual blog post

[cloudysfluffs]

kiss kiss!!!! <33333

~kink/nsfw blogs dni please!!!~

#again i do not support viv///ziepop. but i am only so strong #hazbin hotel tickle #tickle art #my art #lee!husk #ler!angel dust #huskerdust #<<< might delete that tag later . out of shame #uhhh idk how else to tag this. ??? #i might post more hh art soon well see. :P #OH OH OH IF UR READING THIS GO FOLLOW @FIZZBOT (if u want) #its my hh/hb reblog/critical blog lol

[toastyghostcriticalblog]

This tweet aged poorly like milk

#yeah viv Millie trying to kill herself because she feels like she is not a good wife GREAT character development 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 #and don’t get me started Charlie #anti vivziepop #vivzepop critical #anti hazbin hotel #anti helluva boss #helluva boss critical #hazbin hotel critical

[gingebreadbeetle]

There’s no way Hazbin fans (more so Stans) and Viv herself genuinely believe Hazbin hotel is anything like Bojack? Where does Hazbin even take inspiration from Bojack?? Bojack horseman is such a good show, with complex thoughts and ideas expressed in its writing and characters.

Vivziepop is not a curious writer. She doesn’t care about representing people, she has a limited creative mind because she cannot understand politics nor philosophy beyond a highschool level. Her progressive ideology is built of hate for women and the fetishization of gay men. She has nothing interesting to say, nothing new to add and no substance to her works.

There are so many reasons bojack horseman works where Hazbin doesn’t, and I’m tired of pretending a ‘adult show’ that brings up ‘adult themes seriously’ is on the same level as bojack horseman.

#hazbin hotel critical #hazbin hotel #anti vivziepop #anti spindlehorse #hazbin hotel critique #anti hazbin hotel #seriously Bojack is better #I need to rewatch Bojack for the 900th time #like the writing is so vulnerable #if you cannot reflect on your actions and take responsibility for them then you cannot produce good writing about redemption or assholes #Viv is bojack when he tried to write his own book without Diane’s help. #fuck vivziepop

[aimeegbbs]

VIV and JACKSON in SEX EDUCATION SEASON 4 (2023)

#sex education #sexeducationedit #sexeducationsource #sex education spoilers #dailynetflix #userbbelcher #chrissiewatts #tusercarolina #userreina #usergreta #cinematv #tvedit #viv odusanya #jackson marchetti #no one talk to me about how it's nice they stayed just friends they are in love and no i do not take criticism on that #**

[starlight-bread-blog]

Stolitz if it was written well

#obviously viv can write them however she likes #but currently stolitz is shit #they're written as if THIS is the situation #but played off as a love story #helluva boss critical #helluva critical #helluva boss criticism #helluva boss critique #anti helluva boss #vivziepop critique #anti vivziepop #vivziepop criticism #vivziepop critical #spindlehorse critical #spindlehorse criticism #anti spindlehorse #spindlehorse toons critical #spindlehorse critique #anti stolitz #stolitz critical

[azural83]

The vilification of the girls in this episode was completely unnecessary. What was even the point?

Let's see,They're passionate performers that managed to come so far to compete with hell's most popular jester even though mammon's business is misogynistic,they managed to come so far despite no one believing they could just like fizzarolli did. But if they win they're the ones who will get exploited and abused, something that fizz knows better than anyone

Is fizz going to reveal the truth in order to break the cycle and make sure that no talented performer goes through what he did? Nah the girls are just bullies who's entire personalities are being bitches and making fizzarolli sad and got punished for that by getting crushed by a rock,that's their ending.

The show can't even bring itself to acknowledge that they also worked hard to be where they are,to at least have fizz help them since he was in the same situation as they were once

You can't judge misogyny in industry when this is how you treat female characters.

#tbf it's my own fault for expecting viv to properly write female characters #oh well it is what it is #helluva boss critical #helluva critical #helluva boss critique #helluva boss criticism #vivziepop critical #vivziepop criticism #vivziepop critique #spindlehorse critical #spindlehorse criticism

[hezuart]

Something I was curious about is that you say Hazbin and Helluva don’t follow religious or biblical accuracy, but you seem to forget that it’s not supposed too. It’s Viv’s own spin on biblical things so of course it won’t be biblically accurate.

I’m not trying to be mean or degrade you in anyway I just don’t get why you think it needs to be accurate to religion.)

Because Viv's spin on the religion and its figures is like this

#the entire show's plot is based around religion #Hell- angels- devils- sinning- god #and yet viv says its also ....not based on religion? what? #Adam.. the first human? His design and his entire character plot... absolutely wacky. he talks like a 14 yr old incel and he loves guitar.. #7 layers of hell but humans can only be stuck to the top pride layer? That's missing the point of the rings in the first place #Lucifer king of hell is just a wacky goof who wants to entertain people who is super into rubber duckies? i dont even know what to say #charlie wants to try and get Angel redeemed and into heaven #without acknowledging Heaven's homophobia and sexism that could prevent him from doing so #regardless of changed behavior #if viv wants to establish heaven is corrupted theres plenty of material to use... #but imagine if i said jesus christ was a bi saxophone player who wore a suit and tie and was super into collecting teddy bears #a lot of people would find it offensive #but truly its just so detached from the original material and i cant take it seriously #helluva boss critical

[lil-cute-shinigami-comic]

Here's the recent update of the playbill

In reality, it's just an update on Hazbin Hotel Trading cards that someone bought it...

C'mon viv, really?? "...Now leave me the hell alone." That cheezy rp junk as Husk

-_-

Seriously, Viv, ya still owe my friend and everyone else a playbill >:(

#hazbin hotel critical #anti vivziepop #vivziepop critical #hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel criticism #vivziepop criticism #cmon viv ya betta have the playbills ready

[theoddest1]

Notice how Viv will bitch about a 15 year old fan being critical or a 18 or 19 year old critic who made a harmless meme, or be pissy about "My name is Caine, I am your bitch" but will stay DEAD. FUCKING. SILENT about someone in the fandom ending their own life thanks to the shitty people in her fanbase. So, in other words, people being "mean" to her is more worth her time than calling out those who pushed Shay into suicide.

Not surprising tbh. This is the same person who apparently thought karma was awesome when one of the people she had beef with (Dollcreep) was getting mass hate from her fans and was hospitalized for an attempt on their life just to get out of the massive attacks they were facing.

So yeah...what a kind ass person....

Then there's Tracy

Who actually addressed and tried to bring awareness to bullying in her community.

#vivziepop critical #vivziepop criticism #spindlehorse critical #spindlehorse criticism #anti spindlehorse #vivziepop critique #anti vivziepop #vivienne medrano #viv get a grip #vivziepop #cw sui #cw bullying #lackadaisy #tracy butler

[chaifootsteps]

Got a new addition to the "didn't receive credit from Viv" club

#vivziepop critical #vivziepop #actual blog post #viv stuff #vivziepop archive

[so-this-is-hell]

Ok I watched the leaked episodes

Let’s start with the positives! I love positives!

- Alex Brightman put his whole Alexussy into this shit oh my god, Pentious and Adam actually sound really good. Adam singing is also really really good. Alex can sing in character and carry things well and I’m glad now he’s part of the project. Because at least it’ll be bearable if I see the other episodes.

-Vox is actually weirdly really compelling? Like I actually ended up enjoying the vibe he’s got and his own voice grew on me, I know it’s not what people wanted but it works well.

-Nifty’s voice is pretty ok, so is Charlie’s. They’re some of the better voices of the cast, Alastor’s performance was uh. It wasn’t bad so there’s that!

-the opening exposition was needed but also a bit hamfisted- wait shit the positives- uh, I love the direction it went? Art wise?

-the songs are pretty good, they get you from point A to point B, and at least wasn’t Poison levels of cringe in writing.

-Charlie actually helping Pentious in episode 2 try to repent and be a better person actually feels nice, like a crumb of what the show should of be-

…

Ok let’s get to the point.

-the episodes clearly are trying to shove as much of the plot as humanly possible, to the point that you get whiplash.

-Angel Dust, Vaggie, Valentino, Husk all have voices that either do not fit, crack from the pressure to perform, or are trying so hard to mimic the previous voice that it’s actually worrying. The Angel dust one in particular I’ll get to when I get to the point.

-The plot starts with the main antagonist, literally telling Charlie that her plan is pointless and she should give up. There’s no actual “I want” song to counter this, unless you count the song where Adam mocks her for trying and tells her the exterminations will happen twice a year now.

-Pentious at least wasn’t a creep like i was fearing in the script, but he comes off too pathetic? Like I know he was pathetic and that’s the point but why the fuck does he want to be equal to the Vees now? Didn’t he want to rule over hell himself? I know the instagram had him crop himself into pictures with the Vees but remember those aren’t canon!

-I realized I was able to hop in because I had Wikipedia level knowledge of these characters to the point they click in my head (and enough to where Alastor, Charlie, Vaggie and Husk all felt a little off but that’s neither here nor there). But god I cannot imagine being a new person trying to jump into this show, this is bad. None of the characters get actually introduced outside of Charlie, the show references the pilot which isn’t part of the show so new audiences have no idea what they’re talking about, and the staff gets actually introduced in episode 2. EPISODE 2, TO PENTIOUS!? GIRLIE POP HAVE HIM COME EPISODE 1 THEN?

-Animation that’s either too floaty, too janky, too stiff or straight up traced. Which I don’t blame the animators for, Mammon was busy buying 10,000 dollars worth of peacocks to bother paying them more than a dollar per frame. There’s no charm here.

-Where did the fucking cat key come from? No I’m serious. Where did it come from? It just kinda exists now.

-Alastor’s commercial is just straight up MEAN and he’s often more mean than chaotic, which I know is ironic since he wasn’t a good person and I wasn’t expecting him to be but it’s to a point where it’s not even fun mean. He literally called Charlie’s endeavor “Daddy issues”. It felt like he was just there to slap Charlie in the face.

-Angel Dust rant is gonna be so long that I saved it for last.

I have to put it under the read more because of talk of SA! Fun!

Ok.

I’m saying this as someone who loved him from the pilot and was willing to excuse his behavior as “flaws he can work on” since Addict and everything else proved that there was more under the surface and he was a character that could change and grow and-

…

…

Angel dust, the rape victim… the guy running away from his abuser…

The Angel dust who has traumatic episodes so fucking graphic that he flashes back to them when he’s performing.

Saying “yeah no, fucking sexually exploit me! It turns me on!”

Viv, I know you’re not reading this but I mean this genuinely.

Fuck you.

As someone who’s family has experienced sexual abuse, as someone who’s family still has CPTSD because men in power decide to exploit them… how fuckin dare you make a character enjoy their own exploitation.

This isn’t me kink shaming a sexual character! He can be sexual and like sex! It’s never been the problem and hell it could of been liberation to have sex he deserves.

But no.

Let’s make the SA victim into the sexual harassment character, let’s make the SA victim the Stolas of the show where he wears down his love interest so thin that they have to give up.

Let’s make the SA victim still work under his shitty abuser, and make that into a joke as the abuser mentions wanting to rape everyone in the hotel.

Don’t pay to watch this show, I mean it.

Pirate it.

Hell don’t even watch it, find something better to watch. I’ve been binging anime as of late and I still like captain lazerhawk.

#hazbin leaks #hazbin hotel critical #oh yeah btw I reneg my statement of letting go of Angel dust #I’m stealing his ass #Viv stole from people anyways #Angel dust is now my character and I am keeping him away from Valentino #The radio dust au is gonna be my comfort from this

[toastyghostcriticalblog]

what really frustrates me that Vivzepop had these characters (the hazbin hotel cast) for years and never really bothered to actually explain their backgrounds besides little info facts LIKE YOU HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO DEVELOP THEIR BACKSTORYS AND YOU DIDNT DO NOTHING!?

#like what was she doing during the production of hazbin hotel besides working on helluva boss because clearly viv didn’t do shit with them #anti vivziepop #vivzepop critical #anti hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel critical

[cloudysarts]

this show would be good if literally everything about it was different

#read these tags please(unless ur an HH fan in which case please ignore them) >>> I DO NOT LIKE THIS SHOW #i hate viv///ziepop so fucking much its actually unreal. every time i think about her i seethe #been hatewatching it ('legally') nd its awful. like i mean i knew it would be going into it but goddamn. so much worse than i expected #you may be like 'whyd you draw this then'. i wanted to make a finished piece with my redesigns #for funsies me and my boyf have been rewriting/redesigning the whole show . thats been our fun little craft #i feel similar about this that i do about fnaf and miraculous ladybug even tho this is objectively worse in every way #theres this eternal feeling of like. man. if the writers were competent then this concept would be interesting #but theyre not so. here we are #anyway. im gona try not to put hate in the tags lol #but i like how this turned out too much NOT to post it #anyways mutuals please dont unfollow me for this i promise im normal JDSFHJKDFHJDFKHJK #Hazbin Hotel Redesigns #Hazbin Hotel Critical #Angel Dust #Husk #Huskerdust #I guess. #genuinely a little scared to post this ones. im scared ill lose mutuals over this AND/OR fans will harass me for those tags JHKSDFHJKJK #im posting it and then immediately going to sleep. might delete later if even 1 thing goes wrong #EDIT RL QUICK i wanna add: i dont care if you like the show <33 good for you!!! i respect it!! i liked it when i was 14. i just dont now. <