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the-european-portuguese · 1 year

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how we really speak

after yesterday’s ask i realised that lots of you didn’t know either how lax french is nowadays. so here’s my own little guide. remember this is spoken, private french and doesn’t apply to formal situations.

- we don’t use négations. we say ‘je sais pas’ (i don’t know), ‘il en veut pas’ (he doesn’t want it), on a pas à le faire (we don’t have to do it),

- speaking of which, we don’t really use ‘nous’ either. we use ‘on’ instead. so ‘we’ve arrived’ becomes ‘on est arrivé-es’ or ‘shall we go’ becomes ‘on y va?’,

- speaking of which, our questions are often affirmative sentences with a question mark (understand : a high-pitched tone) at the end : ‘are you coming’ is ‘(est-ce que) tu viens?’ and ‘do you want one’ is ‘(est-ce que) t’en veux un-e?’,

- speaking of which, we chew words. when followed by words starting with a consonant, personal pronouns (in my example sujet and COD) can lose their last letter : ‘i’m telling you!’ is ‘j’te l’dis!’ (or, actually, ‘ch’te l’dis’), or ‘plus’ (more, anymore) becomes ‘pu’ (chais pu), ‘puis’ (then) becomes ‘pi’ (et pi c’est tout)…,

- speaking of which, we’re lazy. so ‘je’ can be ‘che’ (chais pas), ‘il’ can be ‘y’ (look, there’s a cat : r’garde, y’a un chat!) and grunt : lots of ‘euh’ (uh), ‘ah’, ‘bah’ (: hesitation), ‘ben’ (: well), ‘hein’ (: tf?) and ‘rhooo’ or ‘rhaaa’ (: displeasure) ; we often start sentences with ‘but’ : ‘mais tu saoules!’ (you’re annoying),

- speaking of which, on top of dropping négations, we can drop pronouns, even though it’s a bit rarer. ‘you’re being a pain in my ass’ should be ‘tu me fais chier’ because that person is annoying you specifically, but we can say ‘tu fais chier’, maybe to make it universal, after all we are dramatic,

- speaking of which, we swear a lot and are quite sarcastic, use irony very often. when someone managed to do something we find easy, we’ll go with something like “aaah, putain, t’es un as, toi!” (you’re a real champ),

- speaking of which, we repeat (personal) pronouns - at the beginning or the end of our sentences. when asked a question, we’re likely to answer with ‘moi, j’aime bien les films d’action’ aka ‘me, i prefer action movies’ and go ‘qu’est-ce qu’il en penserait, lui?’ : ‘what would he think, him?’ (tonic pronouns, careful!),

- speaking of which, we like to use a mode called conditionnel to indicate a wish or an hypothesis. so lots of ‘si j’avais su, j’aurais dit oui’ (had i known, i’d have said yes), ‘j’aimerais bien pouvoir-’ (i wish i could-), etc,

- speaking of which, we add useless words : bien (j’aimerais bien), petit (un petit peu : a little bit), très (c’est très vrai : it’s very true), trop (je ne sais trop : i don’t really know), ça (c’est quoi, ça? : what’s this, this?)…

speaking of which, let’s stop before you all get disgusted and unfollow me. cya!

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the-european-portuguese · 1 year

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Spotted on Twitter

If you have twins you can't call it Justin because there are two

Lenin every two years:

Feeling like going back to Russia and fuck things up

We need a Tripadvisor but for men, imagine the time we'd save girls

- Cheated on me with his colleague Karen

- Cums after three minutes

- Is married

- Never brushes his teeth

*GuyAdvisor*

The guy is named Pringles and tweets about ships

Captain Hook after several weeks at sea

I've been laughing for ten minutes

"Give a handjob to the sailor" (instead of Pamplemousse/Grapefruit)

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the-european-portuguese · 1 year

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Spotted on Twitter

Flash - a woman came back from a vacation and discovered that a 5'5 courgette grew in her garden, maybe the longest in France

Hmm I want it in my anus

It's not yet too late to delete

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the-european-portuguese · 1 year

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Scaliger Castle, Sirmione, Italy

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the-european-portuguese · 2 years

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Amsterdam in February

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the-european-portuguese · 2 years

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Reblog and put in the tags your comfort song

#hypnotized #fleetwood mac

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the-european-portuguese · 2 years

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625 words you have to know in European Portuguese!

Olá pessoal, I made this list like one month ago and it took me quite some time, so don’t hesitate to check out the list and the Memrise course! This list is based on this list

OS ANIMAIS (ANIMALS)

O TRANSPORTE (TRANSPORTATION)

A LOCALIZAÇÃO (LOCATION)

A ROUPA (CLOTHING)

AS CORES (COLOURS)

AS PESSOAS (PEOPLE)

O EMPREGO (JOB)

A SOCIEDADE (SOCIETY)

A ARTE (ART)

AS BEBIDAS (BEVERAGES)

A COMIDA (FOOD)

A CASA (HOUSE)

A ELECTRÓNICA (ELECTRONICS)

O CORPO (THE BODY)

A NATUREZA (NATURE)

A MATÉRIA ((MATERIALS)

A MATEMÁTICA E AS MEDIÇÃOS (MATHEMATICS AND MEASUREMENTS)

MISC. NOUNS

a DIREÇÃO (DIRECTIONS)

A ESTAÇÃO (SEASONS)

OS NÚMEROS (NUMBERS)

OS MESES (MONTHS)

OS DIAS DA SEMANA (DAYS OF THE WEEK)

O TEMPO (TIME)

OS VERBOS (VERBS)

OS ADJETIVOS (ADJECTIVES)

OS PRONOMES (PRONOUNS)

Hope this was helpful!

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the-european-portuguese · 2 years

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Já, nem and até

“Já

In most cases, “já” can be translated as “already” ex : já vi a casa em Sesimbra ex : As maçãs já acabaram There, however, are some idiomatic cases where this translation does not help: 1. já não - not anymore. ex : Eles viveram em Braga, mas já não vivem (They used to live in Braga, but not anymore) 2. até já - see you soon 3. já agora - now that ex : Já que chegamos a este ponto… (now that we have arrived at this point..) 4. vou sair já - I’m about to go 5. já que - since/because ex : Tentamos novamente amanhã, já que hoje parece impossível (We’ll try again tomorrow, since today seemed impossible)

Nem

There is a similar situation with “nem”. Normally, it is translated as “neither, nor” Ex : não havia maçãs nem peras (There were neither apples nor pears) But, “nem” also has some idiomatic translations: 1. nem mais, nem menos -no more, no less Levitou exatamente 50cm, nem mais nem menos. (He levitated exactly 50cm - no more and no less.) 2. nem sempre - not always ex : Mas nem sempre é fácil gritar. (to cry out, however, is not always easy) 3. nem sequer - not even ex : Sabes, nem sequer vou perguntar. (you know, I am not even going to ask) 4. nem um/uma - not one ex : comprei quatro telemovéis, e nem um funcionava. (I bought 4 phones, and not one worked) 5. que nem - as, like ex : isto é duro que nem pedra. (this is hard as stone) 6. sem mais nem menos, sem mais nem quê - out of the blue ex : Ela confessou-se ontem sem mais nem menos. (She confessed to me yesterday, out of the blue.) 7. nem que - even if ex : não posso matar essa formiga, nem que quisesse (I can’t kill this ant, even if I wanted to) 8. nem todo - not every ex : nem todo relacionamento significa casamento. (not every relationship is meant for marriage.) 9. nem todos - not everyone ex : nem todos gostam dessa ideia. (not everyone likes that idea) 10. nem tudo - not everything ex : nem tudo depende de ti. (Not everything depends on you)

Até

Normally translated as “untill/till”, but also known in the forms of: 1. até de hoje para oite dias - see you next week (not like many still say this tho) 2. até logo - see you later 3. até que enfim - at last, finally ex : Cavalheiros, até que enfim boas notícias. (Gentlemen, finally some good news) 4. até à vista - see you next time 5. até que - until ex : Não decolaremos até que tu desligues. (We can’t take off till you hang up.) 6. até (mesmo) - even ex : Os outros têm anos, até mesmo décadas de idade. (The others are years, even decades, old.) 7. até onde, até que ponto - how far ex : não sabemos até que ponto ela vai. (we don’t know how far she’ll go)

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the-european-portuguese · 2 years

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Usage of você, tu and o senhor

There are many ways to say “you” in Pt-Pt. So, prepare for a loooongggg explanation guys! (TLDR: see bottom)

"Você" simply is not used much in Portugal. At best it is a treatment of equals that do not know (or like) each other well. It is considered rude, crude, insulting, and uneducated. It is tolerated from Brazilian speakers and others who clearly are not from Portugal as it is understood they probably learned the Brazilian version of PT.

Vocês is now just the plural, formal or not.

Nonetheless, these are indirect 3rd Person “treatment” pronouns much like “sir” or “mister” or “ma'am” would be in English.

Vós is the plural of tu. It is not used as much in the south as in the north but that makes sense as it still is very much used in Galician (Spain) from which the Portuguese language was born. And “vosso/a” for the plural possessive is used all over Portugal (and the other PT places besides Brazil). Because “vós” is not used so much anymore some people consider it formal because when they do see it, it is in the bible (same with “tu” for a lot of Brazilians) but it is the direct 2nd Person Plural.

https://portuguese.stackexchange.com/questions/1659/qual-%C3%A9-a-etiqueta-no-uso-de-v%C3%B3s-podeis-v%C3%B3s-sabeis-etc-no-norte-de-portugal

This is good too and, as you can see not even those in the same place can fully agree:

https://portuguese.stackexchange.com/questions/390/why-is-v%C3%B3s-rarely-used-today/

In Portugal if people are not comfortable or familiar enough for “tu” then they will use; O/A Senhor/a (with or without name but some use surnames while others use given names with the honorific); the educational title such as, “O Engenheiro” (pretty much anyone with a degree in Portugal gets the title of “Doutor”) or; simply the name, O Nuno/A Maria.

Of course these are all also 3rd Person “treatment” pronouns as well so can be for talking to, or about someone.

Here, a 5-year old quote from a native PT speaker at the Duolingo boards: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/1272499/Tu-Voce

At any rate, you rarely hear “você”, which is implicit, but rather “O senhor/a senhora”, “O Doutor”, etc. or you simply omit the subject altogether, which is the by far the most common usage, I’d say. See examples below:

* Desculpe, pode abrir-me a porta, por favor? instead of: * Desculpe, O SENHOR pode abrir-me a aporta, por favor? – and by the way, you would never say something like: * Desculpe, VOCÊ pode abrir-me a aporta, por favor?

In Brazil, tu is regularly used by some 27 million people there which is actually more than the population of Portugal so not really something to dismiss.

And of course, the formal “you” in Brazil is the same as in Portugal.

Summarized (TLDR) Tu - Singular informal (use it for friends and family) Você - Not used much and considered uneducated and rude Vocês - Plural Vós - Plural (not used much… a bit of an archaism)

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