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darkqueenhime · 9 months

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FGO: Cnoc is in love with the male master

The male master in question:

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darkqueenhime · 3 years

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by 皿@Gohan11Hokahoka

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darkqueenhime · 4 years

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Dinowife: *Appears*

Oh no, I’m already love her

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darkqueenhime · 4 years

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I like your fate comic but sorry for this, just needed to get this off my chest: i think Jinako and Karna have a more family-like relationship and not shippable, especially after you see what they said about each other in lb4. what do you think?

I kinda forgot responding to this but tbh, I am a firm believer ppl can ship whatever they want as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone~

HOWEVER

I… admittedly have been researching way too much about this and I believe this ship is not baseless, at the very least, people have shipped for FAR, FAR LESS. So if you could, please keep that in mind. And this ship definitely do not hurt anyone lmao.

Man, this takes me back to highschool… explaining ships… I’m not defending it as canon btw, I’m just explaining why it’s not baseless to some of us. I am sure someone else can make a better ‘essay’ but i don’t have energy to spare so I’ll make it as brief as possible. SPOILER ALERT FROM THIS POINT ON!

CCC: They’re paired as master (Jinako) and servant (Karna). Jinako is a loser hikkikomori (altho has IQ of 200 and a champion in online gaming), and Karna is a highest tier servant, pure soldier-type. Despite being complete opposites, MoonCell determined they’re compatible enough. However, Jinako is a crap master and Karna suffers badly in battles. But apparently the compatibility is more on the EQ side, they both benefit a lot from each other, even if not immediately known (I will explain later)

The whole Jinako story is pretty sad and gutpunching, and I actually like her a lot despite her being a supreme loser in CCC, like the way she uniquely challenges Rani on a game of chess but I won’t explain it here because that’s not what you wanna know XD so. But there’s some parallel between Karna’s past and Jinako’s story, so that’s probably why they were deemed ‘compatible’. Anyhow…

I believe their relationship is purely platonic in this game. CCC in many ways are actually a story (aside the ecchiness) about love and its many forms, and I believe, due to Karna’s choice to change his ways in order to select the best choice for his master, and also sacrificing himself by saving his master by giving his Surya armor to her without her knowledge so she can be the only survivor of the holy grail war– despite the fact she has no redeemable features (her words), their part is a story of an unconditional love (in … maybe… Jesus-like way, like a demigod saving a human, not romantic.)

He said to her before he disappeared/dead that despite everything she believes of , he believes someone out there will be waiting for her. That was the end of their story. Or at least Jinako’s story.

Or so I thought. I was wrong lol.

So ever since CCC…

I’ll list these … weird inclusions. Karna apparently never forgot about her, even though SUPPOSEDLY, servants forgets about their masters after they ‘died’. But some servants don’t, so it’s not that weird. the weird thing is that how much he mentions her/have her referenced around him… in other games for the span of 8-9 years.

Here are some tidbits about that, I may have missed some:

-Karna associates glasses with her when you meet him in Fate/Extella (”Heh, Glasses. How nostalgic.”) and referenced roll-cake (Jinako’s favorite food) and how he needs to talk more because of his past master says so (Jinako’s parting words to him in CCC)

-Jinako’s ribbon is attached on his downloadable bartender costume (Fate/Extella LINK)

-His travelling-America Craft Essence has Jinako stamped on paper bags along with her assigned class for him (Launcher) as his travel accessories. Fate/Grand Order

-Her Craft Essence (Room Guarder) in Fate/Grand Order features him on her phone screen.

-His God-form (LB4) name is Super Karna, and he proudly claims Ganesha(Jinako) gave him that nickname. “Hm? What should you call me? Hm, no need to worry about that. The God Ganesha has given me a name. I want you to just casually call me Super Karna.”

-Most the blush sprite of his are topics related to/referencing Jinako in Fate/Grand Order

This one actually made me laugh out loud because I didn’t expect that at all. The only one blush I found somewhat unrelated is his last dialogue on valentine scene, where he wants you to wear the gift earring only when there’s two of you alone and you can miss this like I did (ugh) if you chose a different option, although his earlier blushing valentine dialogue did reference Jinako being someone who didn’t really explain what valentine was to him very well (he quoted her saying to him that the day “has got nothin’ to do with us (them).”)

-The most damning to me (that turned me from platonic to a shipper) was actually his My Room talk about Ganesha: “I was a man without any relation with Ganesha, but I feel very drawn to the Ganesha of Chaldea. Like a troublesome elder sister, like a friend I can’t leave alone, like an important, someone. Mm, if it’s like this, I can’t be happier.“ At first, I was like oh, he only sees her platonically no doubt, but then when I saw the actual video with voice…

Why the devs chose a god damn BLUSHING sprite when he says all these? IT MADE IT WEIRD LMAO And the pause at “important …someone” That was deliberate lmao. Sorta sounds like he’s still figuring out who she is to him.(I can’t find the video with his regular sprite at the moment, only the super karna blush sprite, but ye you can try yourself)

And finally,

-The entire LostBelt 4 ch. 2 scenario. I COULD DEFO LIST MANY BUT maybe better not ruin the story. I’ll say one of the cool act was Ganesha/Jinako’s repayment for his kindness by taking on the most grueling task to give him a fighting chance against Altjuna, to the point she almost went insane due to the solitude for literally tens of thousands of years. But she was one tough cookie and Karna, DBZed up from training (and back from dead), waited for her as she came out from the solitary cube (CCC reference. oh god, tons of CCC reference). Before he ‘died’, his final words were exchanged with her too. Oh yeah. Ganesha’s skillset also complements Karna pretty much.

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I truncated a shitton of details like the text, the type of dialogue he said, his changing way on referring her and the possible reasons why he said it in reference to CCC, because honestly, this is already super long and really nobody wants to know that lmao.

These foreshadowing/hints spans for over 8 years. Karna is one of Nasu’s fav, and Jinako is apparently the Type-Moon crew request for Nasu to be included. No one can write Jinako like Nasu too, due to her weird speech pattern, so according to Japanese fans, anything related to Jinako in games were usually Nasu’s involvement but don’t count my words on that.

EXTRA CCC was written by him, so all the foreshadowings prolly were his doing. Imagine my surprise that Jinako appeared again… in FGO. I never, ever expected that. She wasn’t even that popular from what I knew.

But yeah, in FGO, I think they sorta level the relationship. They defo pushed it into the ambiguous territory, away from the strict master/servant/platonic, since they’re now both Indian servants (one is pseudo god, the other is demigod) and on the same ground, both ‘saved’ each other, so they now are equals, which is GREAT imo.

Of course, these are not sure signs about a ship (nothing is sure unless the game itself spells it out lmao) but man. Imagine if Arjuna or other characters have these many references related to Karna. I’m sure people would be pretty gung-ho about it and even create long-ass manifestos about why or how that ship works.

So yeah, not trying to convince you anon, just a small part of my reason why I saw them as ambiguous and quite shippable ;9 I think, just have fun.LOOK AT WHAT YOU MAKE ME DO THO, I HAVENT DONE THIS TYPE OF WRITE UP FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS ;;___;;;; but I hope at least it’s clear enough! Sorry for the late reply! Now I shall return to my hyperfixation.

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darkqueenhime · 4 years

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Jinako’s Despair (CCC)

Jinako : I won’t…I…I’ll never say it! I’ll never ever ever say it!

Jinako : It’s not my fault the old man died! He was dead from the beginning! No matter what — no matter what we do, we won’t be saved!

Jinako : Even if we regret it now, nothing and no one, not my papa, not my mama, not my time, not even that annoying old man… will ever come back!

Jinako : I won’t disappear. I won’t go outside. I’ll just stay like this, forever!

Jinako : Ahh, ah, ah — aah, ah — …ah…fine…fine then, I don’t need anything anyway!

Jinako : KARNAAAAA!!! Throw them out!!! Erase them from the world so they never come here again!!

Karna : …If that’s your order, I will obey. By the tyranny of my spear, Hakuno Kishinami will be burnt away to nothing.

Karna : If you declare that the dark flame within you will not vanish until it burns you up with it, Jinako, then I will be the shroud that guards you from the wind and rain.

Spear flashes

Karna : Let’s go, King of Heroes. It’s premature, but know that this will be the place of your death.

original BGM of that lostbelt4 karna vs ashwatthaman remixed battle scene plays.

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amazing voice acting ugh one of the best scenes

video source: twitter.com/index5453

text source : tsukinoura.wordpress.com

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darkqueenhime · 4 years

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Dirty talk but you both use your customer service voice

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