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some fucking resources for all ur writing fuckin needs

* body language masterlist

* a translator that doesn’t eat ass like google translate does

* a reverse dictionary for when ur brain freezes

* 550 words to say instead of fuckin said

* 638 character traits for when ur brain freezes again

* some more body language help

(hope this helps some ppl)

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Straights really be like hawk & demetri were best friends, care a lot about each other, have entire storylines based on the other but get called bros, meanwhile yas and demetri have both gotten a wedgie so they must be soulmates. It's like news flash, hawk has probably gotten them too lol

AGKDJDJD FORREAL.... and i always see the same comments on why it can't happen like "they're just friends" or "but he's w yasmine now" when 1) literally most of the het ships on this show were friends before they started dating and 2) couples... break up? like thats normal? esp in high school?? 😭 moon and hawk broke up and she got w piper, miguel and sam broke up and they got w other people then broke up w those people and got back together ahshsjdjdj, etc etc. so why is it impossible that yasmine and demetri could break up and he dates hawk? it isnt, the dudebros just dont want to admit theres a chance hawkdemetri could be canon 😭

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STOP SPEAKING OVER MY AUTISTIC VOICE

the fucking gull of these shitheads

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Can you talk about autistic Hawk/Eil

Sure, I’d love to!!!

Credit where credit is due, of course--I got a lot of my Autistic Eli headcanons from @jackonthelongwalk, who’s got a little more authority to speak on the subject since he’s actually autistic and whatnot. I mainly just saw his takes and was like “THOSE ARE GOOD TAKES” and adopted all of them XD Although I DID come up with a few of my own headcanons!!! I’ll just compile everything here.

~Eli tends to be pretty particular about physical touch, and a lot of the time he doesn’t really like it. Over the years, Demetri’s found that one type of touch that Eli’s okay with is shoulder-squeezing, and it kinda becomes their thing. Typically Demetri giving Eli a quick shoulder squeeze helps comfort him and makes him feel safe by basically reassuring him “I’m here for you, I’ve got your back.” You can see Demetri give Eli a shoulder squeeze in 2x09 when he’s comforting him about Moon, and he does the EXACT same one in the school fight in 2x10 just before kicking him into the trophy case. I think it was his way of saying “even though we’re fighting right now, I still care about you” and that kinda helped snap Hawk out of his near-psychopathic rage. In Season 3, he’s still shitty to Demetri, obviously, but it’s more controlled, not as unhinged or feral--even when Hawk breaks his arm, he hesitates a LOT before and regrets it IMMEDIATELY after in a way I’m not sure his UNCHECKED RAEEEGE self would have during the school fight.

~Over the years Demetri develops kind of a sixth sense of when Eli is about to have a meltdown. He’s able to pick up on super minute changes in body language, changes in the way Eli speaks, small alterations in Eli’s general temperament--basically anything that indicates he’s getting overwhelmed. That’s actually how he discovers the shoulder squeeze tactic--Demetri realizes he needs a quick way to comfort and reassure Eli when he can’t go in for a full hug (like they’re in the middle of class or something) so he can calm Eli down a bit and stop him from having a meltdown. Mainly because Demetri knows the bullies will have a field day if Eli cries in front of the other kids, so the shoulder squeeze develops as sort of a way to protect Eli from this.

~At some point after Demetri first started using the shoulder touch/squeeze on Eli, Eli started also using it on Demetri to quickly communicate affection/appreciation. Demetri isn’t nearly as touch-averse or picky with physical touch as Eli, and would’ve been okay with a number of physical touches, but he’s honestly super touched that Eli saw him doing a thing and was like “Oh hey!!! Demetri does this thing to me and it makes me feel safe and loved, so I’m sure it’ll do the same if I do it to him!!!” It kinda becomes their special touch, and becomes somewhat of a silent “I love you” (although obviously these two clueless idiots are led to believe it’s ONLY platonic love for many, many years XD). You can see Eli give a little shoulder pat/squeeze to Demetri at the beach party in 1x09!!

~Eli really does not like being touched around or under the chin, mainly because this is how bullies like Kyler touch him and it’s triggering for him. Demetri basically never touches him here. Even after they get together and start getting intimate, Demetri tends to touch/stroke Eli’s cheeks or the side of his head if he wants to touch his face, but he avoids touching Eli’s chin like the plague because he knows how much Eli dislikes it. This is something Eli really deeply appreciates--even Moon wasn’t able to catch on to the fact that he didn’t like having his chin touched, and he was too obsessed with coming across as “tough” to her to admit that it bothered him. Moon didn’t mean any harm at all, of course, she just wasn’t able to pick up on his more subtle indications that he wasn’t a huge fan of chin touches. Demetri has come to pick these indications up by second nature.

~The whole thing Demetri does at the beginning of the show where he kinda talks “for” Eli (the thing that, ironically, people loooooove to blast him about for being a “terrible friend”) I think is largely done because Eli is autistic. Eli seems to have a lot of social anxiety right from the get-go--he doesn’t even verbally greet Miguel when he first sits with him and Demetri and Demetri introduces Eli. Eli just kinda awkwardly smiles and nods at him. He’s obviously not great with social cues either, which we see later on--he’s so PAINFULLY oblivious to the fact that Piper is super not at all into it when he tries to hit on her in Season 2. I imagine after a number of social blunders in their youth, and seeing just how uncomfortable and anxious social situations made Eli, Demetri took the reigns and did a lot of communicating FOR Eli to take some of the pressure off of him to talk. I’d argue that once Demetri is taken out of the picture, we can see in full force JUST how socially anxious and uncomfortable Eli really is--he seems damn near terrified trying to stand up for himself against Johnny when Demetri’s not there. He’s lowkey stuttering and tripping over his words, his voice is shaking. He nearly leaves the room in tears. He’s used to letting Demetri be his voice, and this seems to be what makes him feel safest and most secure. When this is taken away, he has to find a new way to protect himself--hence, possibly, the entire Hawk persona.

~Eli has a lot of issues with emotional regulation and often feels emotions really, really strongly and gets overwhelmed by them--as an ADHDer, this is a struggle I understand SO MUCH. When Eli gets really overwhelmed with strong emotion, he tends to have meltdowns. These can be either sadness-based meltdowns (like we see in the flashback) or angry meltdowns (like we see when he beats Brucks up). Due to his emotional regulation issues, Eli has a really hard time hiding his emotions or stopping a meltdown once it kinda onsets--this is why he tends to “bawl” at movies. Once he starts crying, he can’t really stop, or reign it in--it just keeps coming. He also can’t really hold it back--his emotions tend to force their way out, whether he wants them to or not. This is also why he goes so HARD when he’s angry--wailing on Brucks, throwing punch after punch at Demetri at the school fight, getting carried away and attacking Robby’s injured shoulder at the tournament. His anger (and other emotions) tends to just kinda explode out, and he has a really hard time reigning them back in and keeping them in check. Demetri, ever the voice of ration and reason, can help with this--and probably has a lot, historically. With Demetri less and less in the picture and their relationship on the rocks, Eli’s emotions just seem to get even more wild and uncontrolled, particularly his anger. Part of the reason I think Demetri and Eli work so well together--Eli tends to get very caught up in his emotions (no shame in that--I’ll admit I do too!), and needs someone to help him keep his feet on the ground and be the pragmatist who helps him keep things in perspective.

~Karate is most definitely a special interest for him. It lowkey takes over his life and he makes it damn near his entire identity--big special interest energy. And Demetri (at first, at least) is lowkey so supportive!!! Like he goes to the all-valley tournament to support and cheer Eli on, despite not having any personal interest in fighting and seeming to think the whole thing is the kind of dumb macho shit that goes against everything his nerd identity stands for XD But he goes to the tournament anyways to clap for his boyfriend best friend’s badassery!!! The real MVP!!! Also special interests in general (not unlike ADHD hyperfixations) tend to be very random, hence why seemingly out of nowhere Eli gets absolutely OBSESSED with karate.

~Just a random little headcanon I have (I think I mentioned it on one of my general headcanon posts), but I like to think after Eli adopts the whole “Hawk” persona, he gets a special interest in birds of prey in general for a little while. Like back before he’s too “tough” for anything even remotely related to “nerd shit,” he watches nature documentaries on raptors and the whole 9 yards and constantly rambles excitedly to Demetri about how badass he thinks they are, and how cool it is that they can “literally hunt mice from the sky and shit” (probably an exact quote from him). Demetri finds this sudden new obsession both amusing and kind of endearing--but as always, he shows an interest in it and accommodates it as best he can. I imagine he’s seen Eli go through a number of special interests over the years, and is a pro by now on how to handle them (my own childhood best friend is a fellow ADHDer, and he was CONSTANTLY getting new hyperfixations--I imagine it was something like that XD).

~The whole “Hawk” persona in general seems pretty autistic, speaking of that--like it’s almost entirely based in mimicry and masking. Like Hawk pretty frequently mimics Johnny’s expressions, body language, and speech patterns, and (at least at first) Miguel’s fighting style. He also starts to mimic a lot of Kreese’s problematic views and general “never accept defeat” attitude in late Season 2 and Season 3, setting his good old Bastardization Arc in full swing. The whole Hawk thing could easily be masking, especially given how exaggerated and overdramatic Eli’s facial expressions, voice, and actions tend to be when he’s trying to be Hawk. When he slips back into “Eli” (or how he was before he adopted the mask), it’s usually around Demetri (i.e. the Doctor Who conversation)--which makes sense, since Demetri “gets” Eli better than most people and Eli doesn’t have to mask or overexaggerate his expressions or statements to communicate effectively with Demetri. They’ve known each other so long and Demetri is so familiar with his body language and mannerisms that Demetri is able to pick up fairly easily on what Eli’s trying to communicate/express without Eli having to work too hard at getting his point across. It’s why Eli’s expressions and body language aren’t nearly as exaggerated around Demetri, even when he’s trying to intimidate him--he knows he doesn’t have to overstate what he’s doing to communicate with Demetri.

~Relating back to the social troubles and social anxiety thing, I think Eli has always had trouble communicating verbally, hence why he’s so quiet at first. And even when he does get more talkative, a lot of it is mimicking other people’s speech patterns and ideas (namely Johnny’s at first)--it doesn’t really feel like him talking. Even alone with Demetri, he tends to prefer to let Demetri do the talking, hence Demetri saying Eli’s a “man of few words.” He often prefers to communicate nonverbally through body language, and when he DOES communicate verbally, he does it somewhat sparingly and chooses his words carefully, not usually bothering to say things he doesn’t mean (if he isn’t masking, anyways). THIS is why Demetri was so ready to accept such a short, concise “I’m sorry for all of it” from Eli instead of a long, drawn-out apology for each individual thing he did wrong. Eli knows he doesn’t have to bother masking to communicate with Demetri, so he’s not going to bother saying something that isn’t genuine. Eli has never been the greatest at articulating his thoughts verbally either, so TRYING to apologize for each individual thing he did to Demetri would be extremely hard for him, and Demetri knows this. This is why he accepts Eli’s apology without question and doesn’t expect him to elaborate on it. He knows Eli’s communicating a lot more than he’s actually saying aloud, if that makes any sense, and he cares more about the entirety of what Eli’s trying to say rather than just the spoken part. And Eli definitely communicates he’s genuinely remorseful through his actions as well--saving Demetri from the Cobras, teaming up with Demetri afterwards to help Deme’s side win the fight, straight up openly  BETRAYING Kreese and Cobra Kai AT GREAT PERSONAL RISK TO HIMSELF (especially if Tory’s threat is anything to go by!!!) in order to go back to Demetri. Honestly, given everything he knows about Eli and how he operates, expresses himself, and communicates, I highly doubt Demetri expects at all for Eli to go on a long, detailed rant about how sorry he is and is honestly just grateful to have Eli back in his life.

~I think at the beginning of the show, Demetri puts a lot of work into helping Eli feel as safe and secure as possible--possibly in part because Eli’s autism makes him feel kinda isolated as a “freak” or “outcast” or what have you. Demetri makes an effort to crack jokes and make Eli laugh when no one else will, possibly to help Eli feel more relaxed and at ease. And Demetri’s reluctance to try out karate could be a kind of misguided overprotectiveness on his part--he’s spent a lot of time building up their own little world for them where he can keep Eli relatively comfortable, and he’s worried anything that interferes with that or shakes up the status quo is going to stress out or overwhelm Eli too much. Demetri wants to keep things as they are, because even if it’s not perfect, and they still get bullied on the regular, at least he KNOWS how best to help Eli and help him feel better (or at least he thinks he does) in their current situation (i.e. “I think we’d rather spend our afternoons playing Crucible Control than getting hit in the face”). If they were put into a drastically different new situation, he WOULDN’T know how he should best assist and support Eli with it, and that scares him a lot--because he’s ALWAYS kind of intuitively known how to help Eli, and the thought of anything changing that makes him terrified that without him, Eli is going to get really hurt somehow.

I think that just about covers everything--might add more stuff if I think of it! Definitely go check out @jackonthelongwalk’s blog for more quality, in-depth autistic Eli content!!!

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I’m autistic and I love that you talk about autistic Eli! I just wanted to share this idea that I love about pre-Cobra Kai Eli, and see what you thought of it 🥺 so I love the idea that Demetri has like a “leader” kind of personality? Like he enjoys being the leader of a friendship kind of and like taking control and stuff? And it’s because that’s what Eli needed? Like other people see it as rude that Demetri talks for Eli, but he doesn’t care because he knows that at times it’s too stressful for Eli to talk for himself, and like, Demetri kind of takes care of Eli? He’ll always take the time to quietly explain the joke to Eli or tell him what was being said was sarcastic etc? And he will help Eli through a meltdown, and like, maybe even when Eli wets the bed or whatever, he can sometimes go into shut down because he is so overwhelmed and Demetri will always help him clean himself up and let him sleep in his bed after, and like that’s why he was so against karate because he thought it would be good for Eli with all of the contact and the social aspect and stuff? I just love Demetri being a good best friend to Eli 🥺

Yes! I’d love to talk about Demetri and Hawk’s relationship! I love and agree with this Demetri has to be the leader and he has to protect Eli it’s how their relationship it set up.

Edit: I end up bouncing around between their pre and post show relationship!

I’ve seen a few opinions floating around (mostly from people who want “Hawk” as a personality to be 100% his actual true self and want to completely distance him from “Eli”) saying that Demeteri wants to keep Hawk/Eli in his place so to speak, wants to be above or superior to him.

I don’t think that’s accurate at all, Demetri talks for Eli because he has too. Eli barley greets Miguel when they are first meeting. At the dojo when Johnny’s making fun of Eli Demetri steps in simply because Eli WILL NOT defend himself, he won’t say anything and Demetri won’t stand for it. Demetri is the leader in their friendship because he has to be, and yes he enjoys it, I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with enjoying being in a caregiving role. Demetri is trying to protect Eli, even when Eli first starts getting into karate I don’t think it’s with malice that Demetri tries to dissuade him they’ve both seen Miguel get beaten up, and yes Miguel wins the cafeteria fight but Demetri’s a logical person he knows that you can’t always win. 

Demetri obviously explains a lot of things to Eli to help him understand. We see it in the cafeteria Demetri’s telling his jokes and Eli is laughing, clearly they’ve had conversations about these types of jokes and Eli finds them funny. In the Moon + Piper scene, Demetri tries to explain to Hawk that she’s moved on at which he becomes upset mostly because Demetri’s calling him out on his fake personality and masking.

I wanted to lay the land before I got into their pre show relationship and my headcanons

Yes I most definitely think Demetri would help Eli through all of those difficult situations. I think helping Eli calm down from meltdowns or attempting to stop them before he becomes overstimulated or overwhelmed is where the shoulder squeeze (my theory is it’s their comfort touch) was born, maybe Eli’s mum would say “he likes deep pressure” and Demetri thought a shoulder squeeze would work. In a lot of the show it becomes more of a clap/pat on the shoulder like a promise of a squeeze if needed.

I’ll never get over before Demetri kicks Hawk into the case the way he squeezes his shoulder and say “no hard feelings” I’ve written before about how I feel this was a coded “I still care about you” action.

Demetri likes having a protective role with Eli yes he’s scared of Kyler and he can’t stand up for Eli in the instance but we see in the dojo with Johnny and with Tory at the end of the fight scene Demetri ALWAYS wants to protect Eli even in his Hawk state.

The sleep enuresis is a perfect example of how caring for Eli is important to Demetri I mean honestly being friends with a kid who peed in your bed so much your mother bought him a special mattress and maintaining that relationship is a clear indicator of that. (Demetri telling everyone at the party was so shitty and we can and should be holding Demetri accountable for that he share something extremely private yes he was beyond upset with Hawk but it was still really shitty)

Lastly I see a lot of posts about how Eli and Demetri were only friends out of desperation but we see that both boys are able to make friends without each other. Look at Demetri he’s made lots of friends rather quickly, everyone likes Demetri he’s a little asshole but he’s quite charming and easy to be friends with. Hawk is the one who has more of a struggle because he’s autistic, his true friends are Miguel, Tory (at least for a time), Bert and Aisha.

But even though Hawk’s got his new friends he still goes back to Demetri which he doesn’t have to do, he could have mended his friendship with Miguel joined Eagle-Fang and continued not being friends with Demetri, but in that last scene they pair everyone with their important person, Sam with Miguel, Bert with Nate, Chris with Mitch and Hawk with Demetri.

Demetri loves Hawk/Eli and Hawk loves him too, he just had to find his way back to Demetri.

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Hawk: If I ever fucking see you doing that again, I'm going to break you down!

Aisha, talking to Miguel: Why is he yelling at the door?

Miguel: It smacked me in the face.

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I've been thinking about the concept that Demetri/Eli could be canon and I've come to a conclusion. If they do it in the eleventh hour, like last season last episode... I'm gonna be salty. Like it's such a cowardly move. The surprise last minute gay thing is getting so old. Instead, I can think of 3 ways to handle it that would actually be good and feel like representation not pandering.

1. Do it like Demetri/Yasmine. Just out of nowhere have someone walk by them making out, and give us a nice 'wtf?' maybe someone makes a comment and Hawk tells them to fuck off. Then just let them be together for the rest of the damn show

2. Have Eli go through some kind of jealousy arc, admit how he feels to Demetri and get Yasmine out of the picture WITHOUT NEEDLESS CHEATING NONSENSE THANK YOU VERY MUCH

3. Have Demetri break up with Yasmine cause she's nasty to Eli (shouldn't be hard to pull off) and it makes Eli realize he loves Demetri. We can then spend some time watching him try to figure out how to tell Demetri, maybe he asks Johnny for advice.

See? Shit's easy. I'm sure if I sat here for a while I'd come up with more.

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Not in front of the kids, Daniel  [originally on Twitter]

Inconrrect lawrusso quotes: 12/???

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Johnny Lawrence got kicked in the face once by Daniel LaRusso and decided this was the twink he was gonna obsess over for the rest of his life, and I respect him for that.

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me: *watches three episodes of cobra kai*

me: eli and demetri are boyfriends and eli is a raging bisexual. in this essay i will-

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Hey there. I'm sorry for the hate on Tory I posted that a few weeks ago at an ungodly hour in the morning. After seeing all of these replies I see I was so very wrong about her. I didn't really put her life into perspective I just zoned in on Hawk and Demetri.

I apologise sincerely

#cobra kai #tory nichols

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I just want Hawk to have his hair down once in season 4 PLEASE JUST ONCE

#cobra kai #hawk moskowitz

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Have your opinions but I'm so sorry I could never ship Hawk/Miguel or Miguel/Robby... i simply Do Not See It

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In conclusion: it's Tory's fault Demetri's arm got broken

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I see your point and totally agree with you. I honestly don't know why I posted this without really thinking about it in this way.

Hawk is definitely responsible for breaking Demetri's arm I guess I was just basing it on how he hesitated until Tory told him to do it.

Thinking it over I've changed my my mind. I need to stop hating on Tory

In conclusion: it's Tory's fault Demetri's arm got broken

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Trying to focus in class right now but i cant help but smile and giggle at the fact that Daniel and Johnny are actually working together like… my heart <3

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