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So happy people are fixing your fucked up art ☺️ we’ve known that some don’t deserve the ability to draw! Now we’re fixing that fucked up, ugly art 😍

Ummmm soooo there's been a trend of "Fixing disgusting proshipper art!" On yt that's been gaining WAYYY too much attraction recently. The one I encountered and reported was someone "fixing" William x Elizabeth Afton fanart. Normally I wouldn't care but there was THOUSANDS of comments and likes. This could put artists in danger. I just wanted to spread awareness!

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Yeah, but when those ships include incest, age gap, etc it’s fucked. Maybe it isn’t just for sexual purposes, but the community is highly sexual. Which wouldn’t be a problem if it wasn’t based on age gaps and other gross topics.

I hate how anti’s try to argue that “proshipping content is nasty and nobody likes it so it shouldn’t be there” because..

Are you not aware of how fiction works?

Do you not grasp that there are things in fiction in of itself that are going to exist regardless of your input?

I don’t like Alvin and the chipmunks, still think it should and can exist.

Just because you don’t like something in fiction doesn’t mean it can’t or shouldn’t exist.

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Is it inherently harmful. It’s rooted in the idea of getting off on underdeveloped, helpless, and innocent children.

Since you brought up masturbating, they’re still jacking it to the idea of a child. Whether fictional or not, the idea is the same. Just different levels of fucked.

The difference between pedophilia and lgbt ppl is that one used to be legal and the other is becoming legal. You do realize that the world is developing and people are realizing faults. We now have more knowledge about why being into kids is harmful.

You know pedophilia isn't inherently harmful, right?

You know that thoughts and writing don't hurt anyone (and are recommended) and are a healthy way to cope or just be a hobby, right?

You know that some adults might look like kids IRL and that they can have sex, right?

You know that the age of a fictional character isn't real, right?

You know that killing a character in a game isn't actual murder, right?

You know that zoophilia is wrong and harmful of acting on because non-human animals are not capable of consent, and not because the way they look, right?

You know that furry sex is not fucking actual zoo sexual abuse, right?

Right?

Pedophilia is inherently harmful lmao what??

Yeah, sure, write about it to cope but why tf do you have to post it and be sex positive about it? If you’re writing to cope, it’s not something you would be proud of, so why tf would people coping and trying to overcome POST AND ENGAGE IN IT.

If a character is meant to represent a child, it is a child. Regardless if it’s real or not. being sexually attracted to a drawing that is meant to represent a child is literally a Segway to enjoying real cp.

And we’ve literally seen how violent games influence people. They have been articles. Of course it isn’t real murder. I’m saying this shit is still bad to fantasize about. It’s damaging.

Pedophilia is harmful in every way. If you have to use fiction to cope, do not spread it and encourage people to produce it for kink. While some may be anti contact and pro recovery, not all pedophiles will recover and many will go on to attack.

You’ve all got to stop acting like you’re the same as everyone else. People do offend.

Also I’m not talking about furry sex what. I never have???

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Forgot to add the second case no real reason lmao it’s not that deep.

Also did you not read that? It’s about how they were charged on viewing anime cp along w irl cp.

You know pedophilia isn't inherently harmful, right?

You know that thoughts and writing don't hurt anyone (and are recommended) and are a healthy way to cope or just be a hobby, right?

You know that some adults might look like kids IRL and that they can have sex, right?

You know that the age of a fictional character isn't real, right?

You know that killing a character in a game isn't actual murder, right?

You know that zoophilia is wrong and harmful of acting on because non-human animals are not capable of consent, and not because the way they look, right?

You know that furry sex is not fucking actual zoo sexual abuse, right?

Right?

Pedophilia is inherently harmful lmao what??

Yeah, sure, write about it to cope but why tf do you have to post it and be sex positive about it? If you’re writing to cope, it’s not something you would be proud of, so why tf would people coping and trying to overcome POST AND ENGAGE IN IT.

If a character is meant to represent a child, it is a child. Regardless if it’s real or not. being sexually attracted to a drawing that is meant to represent a child is literally a Segway to enjoying real cp.

And we’ve literally seen how violent games influence people. They have been articles. Of course it isn’t real murder. I’m saying this shit is still bad to fantasize about. It’s damaging.

Pedophilia is harmful in every way. If you have to use fiction to cope, do not spread it and encourage people to produce it for kink. While some may be anti contact and pro recovery, not all pedophiles will recover and many will go on to attack.

You’ve all got to stop acting like you’re the same as everyone else. People do offend.

Also I’m not talking about furry sex what. I never have???

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Ok so it’s bad to be hateful of people who support pedophilia, necrophilia, incest, etc.

Anti-shippers DNIs are so stupid.

You don't want to talk to yourself? YOU'RE THE HATEFUL ASS PERSON DUDE!!! Telling people to die IS hateful!!!!

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I bet you think you’re so quirky and cool for writing edgy shit. You’re not, your writing is shit and so are you.

“i’m disgusted by this art/fic you made”

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for someone who hates proshippers so much, you sure do love talking to and about them

Read my content. Obviously I’m not enjoying it. I’m informing.

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You were so close but missed the point. The abuser was proship, they supported the same morals you’re encouraging. You literally encourage abusers to indulge in their fantasies. Like, you do realize when you condone something so often and normalize it ppl will move on to bigger things. It’s a gateway. Very common for criminal behavior (I.e. starting off with smaller crimes and evolving to larger ones).

I'm so sorry to say this but, your trauma is not an excuse to dictate what other people can consume in fiction or not.

Your abuser was a proshipper, I'm so sorry you had to endure that, but before being a proshipper, they were, simply, a piece of shit!

The problem is, they'd have been a piece of shit whether they consumed that kind of content or not. People are not black and white. You don't exclusively consume content that you think is right to replicate in real life (you would leave like 90% of anime and fiction out that way), nor do you suddenly start think problematic content is okay to replicate just because you consume it already.

What you experienced is horrible. It was wrong and I'm so so sorry you had to endure that, I really fucking am. But this, applying your trauma-born logic to a bigger population and liking a bunch of strangers online to your abuser because of the media they consume, is not how you cope or deal with the situation.

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I get there should be a different term for it. But It is still pedophilia lmao. It’s pedophilia. Idc if you keep saying ‘b-but it isn’t a real kid’ no shit. It’s not. But who is it meant to represent? Real kids.

And I know it’s better than seeing a real child, however it is still bad. It is still meant to be a child and represent one. Literally just read cases where anime and real cp were viewed by convicted pedophiles.

//tw- mentions of pedophilia, csem, csa, and lolicon

Guys, please please please don’t use the term CSEM to refer to fictional pornographic drawings that involve fictional characters who are depicted as minors

I can’t believe I have to say this, but I’ve seen too many people, just in the past 24 hours, use the term to describe porn that someone drew

Holy shit, lolicon and the like is not CSEM, CSAM, or CP just because a hypothetical and fictional minor is involved in the art. Those terms are specifically used when talking about real sexual abuse cases involving real-world minors.

Fiction cannot be CSEM because it doesn’t involve the direct sexual exploitation and abuse of a real minor! The creation of these pieces of media do not involve the direct harm of a real minor!

Just say “lolicon” or “fictional porn involving fictional minors”. Just use something, ANYTHING, that isn’t used to specifically identify real life abuse materials! Please just don’t use a term that has this much seriousness attached to it as a means of labeling fictional content that you don’t like, even if it triggers you!

You being uncomfortable doesn’t justify the misuse of a term that is used to directly describe abuse, and it makes real victims of CSEM feel like shit when you label some random anime girl as a “victim” right next to them. Because, get this, when you label something fictional as CSEM, CSAM, or CP, you are inherently insinuating that there is a victim involved in the creation of this media, which is inherently untrue with fiction. STOP DOING THIS!!!

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???? It’s totally different. Honestly can’t compare the violent video games to fictional cp.

It is cp regardless. Pedos use it as a gateway or to ‘not really look at cp, but still get the sexual release.’ It’s still wrong. It’s about prevention.

Pedophilia is a harmful attraction as it coincides with predatory behavior. Defenseless, smaller, weak, not as mature.. that’s shit predators look for and get off to.

This dirt bag was using anime cp go get off and got charged for it. He was found guilty for his crimes.

Case: United States v. Eychaner

You know pedophilia isn't inherently harmful, right?

You know that thoughts and writing don't hurt anyone (and are recommended) and are a healthy way to cope or just be a hobby, right?

You know that some adults might look like kids IRL and that they can have sex, right?

You know that the age of a fictional character isn't real, right?

You know that killing a character in a game isn't actual murder, right?

You know that zoophilia is wrong and harmful of acting on because non-human animals are not capable of consent, and not because the way they look, right?

You know that furry sex is not fucking actual zoo sexual abuse, right?

Right?

Pedophilia is inherently harmful lmao what??

Yeah, sure, write about it to cope but why tf do you have to post it and be sex positive about it? If you’re writing to cope, it’s not something you would be proud of, so why tf would people coping and trying to overcome POST AND ENGAGE IN IT.

If a character is meant to represent a child, it is a child. Regardless if it’s real or not. being sexually attracted to a drawing that is meant to represent a child is literally a Segway to enjoying real cp.

And we’ve literally seen how violent games influence people. They have been articles. Of course it isn’t real murder. I’m saying this shit is still bad to fantasize about. It’s damaging.

Pedophilia is harmful in every way. If you have to use fiction to cope, do not spread it and encourage people to produce it for kink. While some may be anti contact and pro recovery, not all pedophiles will recover and many will go on to attack.

You’ve all got to stop acting like you’re the same as everyone else. People do offend.

Also I’m not talking about furry sex what. I never have???

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What I hear “guys we have to convince everyone that when they make us stop sexualizing via media we won’t be able to write anything 🥺🥺”

By the way, censorship won't stop at extreme smut and icky kinks and big bad gays.

Because, that's the problem in kicking a few rocks down the mountainside. Once you trigger a landslide, you can't stop it.

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You know pedophilia isn't inherently harmful, right?

You know that thoughts and writing don't hurt anyone (and are recommended) and are a healthy way to cope or just be a hobby, right?

You know that some adults might look like kids IRL and that they can have sex, right?

You know that the age of a fictional character isn't real, right?

You know that killing a character in a game isn't actual murder, right?

You know that zoophilia is wrong and harmful of acting on because non-human animals are not capable of consent, and not because the way they look, right?

You know that furry sex is not fucking actual zoo sexual abuse, right?

Right?

Pedophilia is inherently harmful lmao what??

Yeah, sure, write about it to cope but why tf do you have to post it and be sex positive about it? If you’re writing to cope, it’s not something you would be proud of, so why tf would people coping and trying to overcome POST AND ENGAGE IN IT.

If a character is meant to represent a child, it is a child. Regardless if it’s real or not. being sexually attracted to a drawing that is meant to represent a child is literally a Segway to enjoying real cp.

And we’ve literally seen how violent games influence people. They have been articles. Of course it isn’t real murder. I’m saying this shit is still bad to fantasize about. It’s damaging.

Pedophilia is harmful in every way. If you have to use fiction to cope, do not spread it and encourage people to produce it for kink. While some may be anti contact and pro recovery, not all pedophiles will recover and many will go on to attack.

You’ve all got to stop acting like you’re the same as everyone else. People do offend.

Also I’m not talking about furry sex what. I never have???

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I like the fact that you’re dumb enough to screenshot the law that disproves your point of csam including anime characters

I’ll point the flaw in your logic out by citing the very law text you screenshotted:

USC 18, § 2256 8 (B) such visual depiction is a digital image, or computer generated image that is, or is indistinguishable from, that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct

now if you look into the same paragraph further down, you’ll find this

(11) the term “indistinguishable” used with respect to a depiction, means virtually indistinguishable, in that the depiction is such that an ordinary person would conclude that the depiction is of an actual minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct. This definition does not apply to depictions that are drawings, cartoons, sculptures, or paintings depicting minors or adults

maybe read the law text before you embarrass yourself. I don’t think you’re an adult, you’re a dumb teenager who helps predators feel safe in your spaces

the same paragraph also denies that “minor” means “cartoon character” because the law defines “minor” as an identifiable human person

Contradictory

But also wasn’t this shit made in 1986?? Idk it’s outdated and times have changed.

Anyway.

Sadly these charges were dismissed but it was tried in court

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You’re fucking stupid if you think cp doesn’t encompass drawings meant to resemble children.

it's so depressing seeing selfship posts with " proship / comship dni," it's like seeing an angel without its wings . daily reminder that selfshipping was originally a proship thing until antis stole it

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‘Nonbinary’ then say ‘gay man’ ok? Is it gay man when you wanna own some people online shipping gay stuff? Lmao.

Omfg these assholes are so idiotic, lol. Context: I said Let's go Sebaciel Nation on a Twitter poll. Some asshole commented for me to get Till out of my pfp. And accusing other ppl in my replies of being pedophiles. I said I'm keeping the Till pfp out of spite. I blocked her because she's annoying. She used her OTHER account to comment again and then said I only like IvanTill because I fetishize gay men (I, myself, am a gay man and even then, fujoshi want to see fictional men kiss and are like the backbone of every damn fandom). Like jfc. Idiots everywhere.

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You guys do realize when it comes to sexual preferences it’s different. Different than like writing horror, gore, etc for shock value and scares. When it’s sexual it’s different, more intense, cathartic for viewers who’re into that. It’s common for people to want to relive that feeling/release they get from seeing horrific shit. Sp they search for it more and more. Sexual additions are a thing.

"oh itd be illegal in real life though!!" yeah. a lot of shows have moments like that too. and theyre not always shown to be explicitly negative, are seen as funny, or are even seen as attractive. but people are yknow. expected to know that certain things aren't okay irl. because they expect them to be adults with critical thinking skills.

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You do realize that is still bad. And simply because a person doesn’t discuss all bad things doesn’t discredit the bad of the things they discuss. This is such a dumb argument.

"THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST DISGUSTING USER OF ALL TIME"

*puts image of them talking about a CARTOON character thats a minor in sexual connotations before getting into the racism and endangerment of actual minors* okay