my fav durgtash headcanon is that once in a while Gortash would come home after a long day of manipulate mansplain manwhore to find Durge taking a bath in his bathroom or sleeping in his bed and the only explanation he'd get is "your place was closer"
I'm not sure when they added this for Wyll but I'm soooo glad they did. There was SUCH a loose thread hanging there between you if you turn him down for the dance. It's nice to have a clear the air moment and reinforce our friendship.
I don't like Orin but damn can she not get a break. Everyone just going on and on about the Durge being a miracle, how much Bhaal just loves them sooo much.
You can really tell why she despised Durge. It's like no matter what she did she was never going to be able to match your raw ability and her vision was never going to match what Bhaal wanted. It has younger sibling in the older's shadow energy to it.
Apparently Durge also had a lot of hubris and didn't see Orin as a threat at all. She does come off to me as very childish. Like she's throwing a temper tantrum, running around breaking her toys, etc. Which makes it even more of a dig when Gortash says he tolerated Orin, like he's tolerating a badly behaved toddler, but he liked you. He never saw her as an equal the way he saw Durge as one. (And still does after you come back.)
Even cozying up to gramps Sarevok and his murder club he's just savage about Orin. Wants to invite you back for tea after you kill her and everything.
Even random Bhaal worshippers in the temple are begging you to kill her. It's pretty wild just how much everyone hates this woman.
So apparently Gortash turns into a 10 foot tall Gort-Hulk if you fight him.
My biggest question though is: did he and Durge ever fuck as the Slayer and Avatar of Tyranny???
I just... I really need Bhaal and Bane sighing into their hands as they watch their two Chosen fuck-ups use the precious gifts they've bestowed to bone each other into the bedsheets.
@weavewithshadow pushed yet another durgetash brainrot specimen into my brain, which is...
what if withers didn't just instantly revive you the way he does in the game (which is total horse shit btw, but i'll talk about that later)?
what if you were, for all intents and purposes, dead, and your entire camp actually has a fucking reaction other than "knew you could do it buddy?"
what if that part of the story was treated with the actual emotional weight that it deserves?
SPECIFICALLY.
what if gortash is waiting at your camp to yell at your companions for letting you die?
like, "you made them a hero...and then you let them become a martyr. if they'd stayed by my side, i would've protected them."
he'd be fucking pissed. absolutely livid, that they let you sacrifice yourself, and they call themselves your friends. It's an utterly irrational reaction, because you made that choice, but he is furious nonetheless.
but then withers would bring you back, and you'd be naked and shaking and stunned to be alive again, and gortash takes off his no fear coat and covers you with it.
and then, gone is that smooth, unwavering confidence and unshakeable, haughty demeanor. he is suddenly shaking too, and he's realizing, he wasn't ready to lose you again.
and now that you're back, again, despite all odds, his emotions are too powerful.
especially after months of wearing that coat to keep his grief from consuming him.
and you know what, while i'm being soppy and stupid.
he falls to his knees, and takes their face in his hands, and he says, without his silly little preening nobleman voice, in an honest to GOD, rough, weak little gasp:
"you shouldn't have left me."
and you know he isn't talking about leaving them at wyrm's rock.
about your Astarion post, to be fair, in the same scene where:
“The PC can even tell him in Act 2 that they don't have to have sex for as long as he needs. (Which I take to mean possibly forever.),” you can ALSO tell Astarion to suck it up and have sex that he doesn’t want (i.e., rape) where he says he’ll do it for you if that’s what you really want, but he’s super upset about it. Like, the game does allow you to pressure that man into having sex a lot. It doesn’t shy away from SA, and even allows you to SA Astarion.
So tbh I don’t think Larian would not pull its punches when it comes to Astarion/Tav/Halsin. I think it’s a cute pairing, but Astarion seems really insecure and begrudging about the whole thing and the game does allow you to even SA Astarion so idk man. I don’t think Astarion’s fully into the whole polyamorous thing. In general though Astarion/Tav/Halsin is really cute and could work out well
That's fair enough. The post, and all my posts, are for sure from my POV and my interactions with the game. (They are hot takes for a reason. XD) There are things I've never come across or don't know about and everyone has their own experiences.
I watched this amazing interview with Scott Joseph, the VA for The Emperor, where they asked him if they thought his character was meant to be just a straight up evil manipulator or if there was more of a grey middle ground to him. He basically said the devs built the game in a way that either could be valid based on the dialogue choices the player makes in relation to trusting The Emperor throughout the game.
I feel like that can be applied here as well, to a degree. Both versions of Astarion can be true and I don't think that necessarily invalidates one persons POV over another. If the person playing chooses not to also romance Halsin because they feel like Astarion is uncomfortable with it, that's 100% okay. Far be it from me to tell anyone how they should feel about or interact with the game. :)
I always try to imagine what the Bhaal temple smells like, and then my brain realizes that's a smell it really never wants to experience.
"the dark urge is a perpetually filthy blood stained mess-" " no they're not, they'd have to wash it all off in order to blend in and take people off guard-"
the dark urge lives in the SEWER, people.
they might bathe regularly to keep the guts out of their nails, but they'd smell fucking terrible. you don't get that smell off.
especially not a 14th century sewer. I'm amazed the dark urge isn't irradiated.