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kurobruja · 6 years

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Do you think Madame Red was ever able to love her husband, who loved her, or was she too stuck on Vincent? What do you think would have happened if her husband had actually survived the accident?

I’m sorry I answered this terribly late!

Short answer: yes and no. Depends.

Long answer:

I think Madam Red loved his husband but was never in love with him. The typical. She was unwilling to let the past go, and that came back to bite her when she lost everything. I’m of the belief that her issues were rooted in her entitlement, not only towards Vincent but at life in general.

Good husband, good family. And while it was sad to lose it all, the fact she went crazy when she lost it was because she wasn’t entirely comfortable in the first place. It has sense, she based her Self in what others think of her (she didn’t like her red hair or the colour red and became Madam Red because a dude told her she looked pretty, I mean), so when she loses the others, she loses herself.

I do believe her when she says she was happy, she probably was, most times, but her understanding of the world around her was fragile. I think she went through a lot and that is normal to have a breakdown, that’s why she is a tragic character. But how her trauma manifested show us that she never even tried to resolve her inner conflicts (she even explicitly says so), and while in a different world she wouldn’t kill prostitutes, she was always going to be melancholic about her life.

I’m unsure about the last question. Something tells me that she would’ve been able to hold it better, she would have had someone left to help her deal with her sister and brother-in-law’s death. But I can see the same arc for her developing at losing a child. I see her not talking with her husband, the marriage growing apart, and she finally snaps. It would’ve made for a good story!

Most probably she would’ve tried to hold it together because he was a good man. I think since her arc is heavily based in lost, lost love, lost family, then she wouldn’t have done what she did if she had someone left (remember that Ciel came back after she started killing. She literally had no one else -that we knew of-).

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kurobruja · 6 years

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Agni’s death and its connection to the narrative. Will Sebastian lose his next fight?

Back in the day, I remember saying that if the murder of Agni was the twin’s doing, then it would have had more sense to kill Soma (or both, since you couldn’t kill Soma without killing Agni). Not only would’ve been more heart-breaking by the sole fact Soma was younger, it would’ve also tied Ciel and R!Ciel possible new dynamic tighter.

R!Ciel is willing to kill anyone that gets in the middle of his relationship with his brother, and that includes his brother’s friends and allies. (not confirmed)

^more shocking if he were a corpse, just saying.

Instead, Agni was killed. We get this scene:

Which brings my point further. It was weird for a narrative that focuses on Ciel, like Kuroshitsuji shamelessly does, to kill Agni, because the only person who has a connection with Agni, aside from Soma, of course, is Sebastian. This doesn’t have much sense in an arc that focuses on Ciel’s past and Ciel’s character. Ciel certainly doesn’t care about Agni, he cares about Soma. And this puts just a tiny bit of fleeting drama on their relationship because we all know that as soon as Soma finds out that there’s an evil twin out there and that it was not Ciel’s fault, he’ll side up with Ciel again. Doing any other thing seems inconsistent with his character. It’s also weird of the culprits not to kill Soma, you would’ve thought they’d want to kill the master i.e the one who has the power, in the case this wasn’t R!Ciel’s idea.

Unless it was meant to tie Sebastian in the currently developing narrative.

Sebastian now has some sort of personal grudge against R!Ciel, and by extension Undertaker. Obviously, Sebastian will fight R!Ciel and Undertaker if he needs to, but this is a given, considering Ciel, his contract master, will probably want to get Undertaker wreck for turning his brother into a zombie. A fight between UT and Sebastian would be centered around Ciel, ordered by Ciel. Sebastian is an over glorified hitman, in this case, just change money for a soul.

I mention this because there wouldn’t be a problem with Sebastian not having a personal stake in this fight… if he weren’t a supposed main character. Except for Agni and what he represents. Having personal stakes in the battle makes him have a more active role.

Not only Agni was his first friend, Agni represents Sebastian’s butler aesthetics. Agni was an exemplary butler in Sebastian’s eyes because his master’s safety and happiness were his top priority. Sebastian will definitely go full force on Undertaker.

If Sebastian wins the fight, then he was able to uphold his friend’s teachings and his butler aesthetics. If he doesn’t (and lives), he failed, and this will set a difference between Agni’s recent death and Sebastian’s failings, rendering Sebastian a bad butler (according to himself).

It would bring the discussion of his true nature at the front of the narrative: can Sebastian, as a demon, be a good butler by his own definition? And, of course, it begs another question:

How much damage would do to Sebastian’s ego losing his butler aesthetics against someone who isn’t a butler?

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kurobruja · 6 years

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Would it be accurate to call bad bangs grease boy Undertaker “insane evil” and bad bangs clean hair Sebastian “sane evil”? UT didn’t set out to do evil, but he sure does it a lot. So does Seb, but he does it with intention. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also you can reply to this when you feel like it, no pressure. Life is important too. :D

I wouldn’t call it inaccurate. It really just depends on how you interpret UT’s actions.

I don’t think UT is insane. I think he just doesn’t care. “Not setting out to do evil” but not caring if you do, is a particular kind of malice that needs cold thinking. This isn’t a plan he thought one night and came to fruition randomly. He’d need to put a lot of time and effort in his plan. I’m not of the thought he’s delusional. He’s very clear in what he’s doing, his purpose, and how far he’s willing to take his ideas further.

Sebastian is definitely saner since he’s not that chaotic. Whatever wrongs he does is because he wants to get a kick off Ciel’s face, or is following his direct orders and letting himself go because he has the opportunity.

So Sebastian evilness is more… restrained? Whereas UT is just wild. In d&d alignments, UT is a chaotic and Sebastian is a lawful.

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