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Disney I'm BEGGING you to bring back Hans for Frozen 3, AND THIS TIME WITH A REDEMPTION ARC

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I'm not getting involved in your ship wars (goodness knows fighting over who gets to date the fictional man is a long-standing tradition) but I will say that using "non-canon" to dunk on someone else's ship is a weird flex in fandom. Like, for years that's the excuse many showrunners used to dunk on fandom and transformative art - look at those silly girls reading subtext buttsex into what is obviously heterosexual! How dare they! - and if you're gonna diss anyone's ship (which is still participating in a ship war, but you do you) I think you can do better than saying that your ship is canon and theirs is not.

Look, I'll take my time answering, but it'll be the only one. The sylkis don't participate in any "war" because Loki with Sylvie is a marvel couple. We don't need to prove anything. So no, it's not true. I'm not going to say their ship is canon if it's not. There's nothing insulting about that. That's just a fact. Tom Hiddleston doesn't even know what this ship is. He repeats that Mobius is "Loki's friend" over and over again. The series is the love story between Loki and Sylvie. THEY'VE SAID IT IN EVERY INTERVIEW since the series began. We don't want to prove anything, we don't need to, it's been said for a long time.

Again, I don't care about Loki with Mobius, I DON'T CARE. People who love l0kius, it's fine, everyone does what they want. What's tiresome is "these people" who go to see love in a situation/gesture where there's nothing. Transforming a scene to make it love between them. Taking or appropriating sentences from Loki that are originally for Sylvie but for Mobius. Asserting that "l0kius" was planned from the start, when it wasn't. Wishes Sylvie painfully dead.

Yes, Mobius is important to Loki, but as a friend. Not a lover. But again, I don't care if people like this ship, just stop doing this. Stop always come and check out on what we do, say and share instead of creating on their ship. And harass the sylkis because we love Loki with Sylvie.

It's exhausting to have toxic messages every day even when you're just sharing on sylki. It would take so long to write everything I've had and seen in the last three years.

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Seize the day, boys. Make your lives extraordinary.

DEAD POETS SOCIETY dir. Peter Weir

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remember when mobius said "the nexus event the two of you caused, whatever that connection is, can bring this whole place down" because i just remembered and now i'm gnashing my teeth, biting furniture, foaming at the mouth, etc

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This one's for my gabenath tumblr girlies 🙌

Yes, Nathalie has a purple streak because Gabriel is in purple, obviously

Anyway shhh Nathalie was totally in the movie and in alt!Gabriel's life, what do you mean he's lonely, he's not, he's just blind

(Commissioned from @haejooarts, go check them out because they make amazing work)

Anyway here's classic red-streak Nathalie because if canon!Gabriel won't appreciate his Nathalie, alt!Gabriel definitely will

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I hate this whole needing money to live thing

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tbh, i think the whole thought process behind how sylvie is written is that she is not attached to loki and her happiness doesn't at all depend on him in any way.

was their connection deep? did he impact her? "shatter" her world even? yes. this is why she is so angry at him. bc in her mind, he had betrayed her.

but he doesn't take up much more space in her mind. she goes on to live her life just fine without him at the end of both seasons.

loki is a different story, he is obsessed with her to the point of doing something completely "out of character" and being ready to sacrifice everything for her.

i personally love how "unequal" their relationship is in this way, but i understand that it's not the majority of shippers' cup of tea kind of dynamic.

this is an interesting interpretation! i enjoy getting to hear people's differing takes on their dynamic, so this was a fun read. and hey if unrequited is your trope then all the more power to you. you're braver than me, that's for sure.

i haven't rewatched s2 (and tbh idk if i ever will- it just didn't do it for me the way i wanted it to) but the consensus that "loki fell first and harder" def seems supported by s1 and enhanced by s2. which i think made it all the more shocking when she kisses him first. i love that little detail.

i have a different take, which is informed by episode 5- particularly the bar scene contrasted with the record shop scene. she tells him to go and live his life and move on, then immediately goes to a record shop, tells the man at the counter she had a bad day, and then cries to the velvet underground (it looked like crying, also possible she was just laying there and basking it all in, which is just as compelling in my opinion).

to me that read as someone who is trying so hard to place their feelings in a convenient little box and ignore them and then running away when it doesn't work.

sylvie doesn't strike me as someone who can sit still, especially not after living through a million apocalypses and trying to ensure her survival. and while getting a job in oklahoma might not be the same frantic pace she's used to, i do think she threw herself into it (employee of the month placard i'm looking at you!) so she has a new life, a new job, time to do things like go to the bar and get a haircut and listen to music and do everything possible to just. not. process. the annoying feelings that the citadel situation brings up. just keep moving! just don't think about it! and so when loki rolls up at her work, she tries to push him away, tell him he's the last thing she wants to deal with, get him to leave. the tone in the bar scene felt like that to me as well. like she's saying just leave me so i can stop thinking about this.

of course, loki does not want to leave her- it's just that for some reason he is physically incapable of talking about anything but the TVA, who ruined her life and she justifiably wants nothing to do with hearing about how great they actually are. he is pretty skilled at killing the mood. (i take great pleasure in rewrite fics that make a show of addressing this)

am i blinded by shipping goggles and my own projection onto her? it's possible! but to me it read as someone in denial. when we hear sylvie talk about her love live on the train in s1 (a scene i LOVE because it seems so out of left field for her) we get a very clear sense she has no idea what she is doing when it comes to romance (and then flat out says so during the blanket scene). her experience with romance hasn't been anything real, to the point where i hesitate to even use the term "romance"- just centuries of numbing herself by staying busy with a fling. she is like a shark that will just collapse if she stops moving. which we get to see her do in the record store!

that's just how i read it though! your read on it is just as valid and i like hearing all of the different takes. i am by no means trying to persuade you to join my pining sylvie agenda, just using this blog as a means of idea exchange. which i love doing. seriously it's so fun.

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Monarch re-design. I kept the idea of the stained glass motif but I changed it a bit. I wanted him to be overly extravagant especially as he’s kind of gone a bit mad with power at this point and is not in tune with reality. I gave him a silly reflective butterfly mask that covers his eyes and a giant butterfly cape.

The first monarch design was boring but it had aspects I liked like the hair and the stained glass butterfly. The second monarch design is just so incredibly boring. It’s worse even than hawkmoth and shadow moth because this is supposed to be him at his ultimate power and there’s nothing in the design to suggest royalty or excess.

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Two years ago, Marvel introduced us to a new potential power couple who had opportunity to become the leading one of mcu. They showed a beautiful love story, how two soulmates find each other somewhere on the edge of the universe and fall in love. And then in the season 2 they just decided... to get rid of it?

mcu had such an incredible, original, well-built couple, what a waste.

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I will never forgive Marvel for how they first cowardly played down Loki (and Sylvie’s) queer identities and then retconned and wasted the potential of their romance and I will never trust the MCU again

My former comfort ship now only makes me mad and sad and frustrated

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Okay actually I do have a proper thought on the "sylki is incest" wank. which is that the "anti" take seems to be that loki/sylvie is obviously, glaringly, an incestuous pairing but its shippers deliberately ignore that because they like the pairing otherwise (yet also the accusation involves them liking the incest element... honestly it's a bit of a muddle, but let's move on). But. Well, here's the thing that is obvious, at least to me...

Go to AO3 and have a look to find the most popular (in terms of number of works) Loki pairing in the Marvel Cinematic Universe fandom as a whole. Actually, i'll save you the effort:

(These numbers are slightly out-of-date but the ratios remain accurate. I checked.)

Now, that. That is an incest pairing, isn't it? There is some fic which specifies an AU of some sort in which Thor and Loki are not related to each other but most of it is about brothers who are also lovers.

"But they're not really related," you say? Sorry, but in the important ways, they are. Every one of those films, and the Loki series, frames them siblings-with-issues, and yes one of those issues is whether or not they agree that they are siblings, but I'd say the MCU comes down pretty firmly on the side of "they totally are."

And the point I'm making here is that the actual incest pairing is treated as such by its fans. If you don't feel up to reading any thorki fic I'll save you again and say that it overall leans into the "forbidden love" angle, and the shame and internal conflict of an incestuous attraction or relationship. So shippers of a given pairing do indeed know what incest is and they rarely try to avoid that aspect of such pairings.

Whereas. If you read the Loki/Sylvie stuff, that whole "thorki vibe" is entirely absent. Fans vary on variants, in terms of in what ways these two are or are not "the same person" but they agree on one thing: fucking some other version of yourself is not incest. This is pretty much a unanimous belief, and here I'll mention something else I think is relevant: there are a few sylki twincest AUs (many of which seem to have been written out of spite - LOL, fandom!) and in all of those the AU also features another crucial change - they are not both Loki variants in those fics.

Yeah, that's right! To make Loki and Sylvie siblings you have to remove the selfcest element entirely. Because - this may shock some of you, so sit down before you read this next part - you are not your own sibling. Even identical twins are obviously different people. A clone of yourself might get us into more philosophical territory but that's not what multiversal variants are either. Allow me to illustrate with another informative image:

You get me? Yeah, you get me.

So, to meander towards an actual conclusion here. The MCU!Loki fandom does not, in general, refuse to accept that romantic/sexual pairings that would be incestuous actually are incestuous. In fact if anything it embraces that element of such pairings. It is usually seen as the defining feature of them. If they think siblings are fucking then they will write about those siblings fucking, and they will not be shy about it!

And aside from that mentioned handful of AU fics, sylki is not written as incest. Because it just isn't incest. Look, if you personally see Loki and Sylvie as siblings to the point where the pairing squicks you out, then fair enough there's not much either of us can do about that. Do your best to avoid that content and don't be a wanker about it and I wish you well in your endeavours. But that isn't what most of the complaints stem from, is it? As usual in recent years fans who didn't like a pairing (which, btw, is allowed) wanted to have the moral high ground and some bright spark hit upon "this pairing is INCEST" via some slightly odd logic and it spread from there. Because we can't just not like something, can we? (Actually, that's also allowed!) No, we have to be better than those fans over there, who are all terrible people in some way. They are problematic.

And this is a lot of words for me to essentially say "no, the sylki fic and the thorki fic have very different vibes actually" but... well, they do. The sylki shippers are not denying the incest, because there is no incest there, and even if we for a moment pretend that "siblings" is a reasonable and indeed expected interpretation of the variants concept, it is clear from their content that the people who ship Loki/Sylvie do not see them that way. And that has nothing to do with DNA or otherwise, which I can prove with this very quick question: in one word (or less, if you can), what is the relationship between Loki and Thor?

You said "brothers" or "siblings," didn't you? No, you did. I know for a fact that you did, don't play coy with me on this. We all understand that these two characters who definitely share no DNA are, in every way that matters, brothers. This is not a difficult concept, it's not somehow confusing large numbers of fans either way.

tl;dr - Sylki isn't incest but if it was we'd all know that because the fans of it would not be constantly denying what would, almost certainly, be the main appeal of that pairing for them if that was the case. You can deny that all you want but 11,731 thorki fics (as of 10th December 2023) back me up on this one.

So there.

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actually WILD that the most hans content we've gotten in half a decade (since i'm counting the musical in this. technically it's been 10. YEARS. since i've heard my baby's real voice) is a goofy racing game. but i am so happy and overjoyed to hear him and see him again. it feels so so good

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I am not sure if she knows the „you“ was for her. To me, it’s obvious that Loki directed the you at Sylvie, and the „for all of us“ includes everyone. Right after he says the „you“, Sylvie gasps ! So, I think you could either say she is just shocked because it dawned on her that he’s going to sacrifice himself, OR she is shocked because she didn’t expect him to do this for her. They didn’t have a talk about the events at the citadel and neither of them were able to express their emotions. So, I think it came as a surprise to her, that he would do such a thing. She doesn’t know he loves her. Maybe she hoped. Maybe she had a feeling, but she couldn’t be sure.

PLUS, Mobius was in the dark. So, there’s no way he could have meant him. It’s clear that Sylvie is the one highlighted here.

People... Seriously. If Loki's "for you" was already in the plural and not in the singular, why add "for all of us" directly behind it ?!

Don't you think it would be a bit repetitive for Loki to say he sacrifices himself for everyone and then say he sacrifices himself for everyone again ? Especially since the "for you" follows directly from dialogues referring to conversations he only had with Sylvie... So well, it's pretty obvious that it's Sylvie that the "for you" is intended. The only thing that interests me in this is whether Sylvie understood or not that the "for you" was intended for her... Do you think she understood this, and if so, why ?

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Do you think that what makes a Loki a Loki is the fact that we’re destined to lose be alone?

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Commission for @thebohemianbelle! THANK YOU 💚

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"Loki sacrificed himself to save Mobius!" Then why didn't he just kill Sylvie? If Mobius mattered more to Loki than Sylvie, why didn't he kill her? It's not like he lacked the means or the opportunity. Not to mention, his sacrifice was also a pretty big risk. There was always the chance that it wouldn't work, which means he was putting everyone else's lives at risk. So why would he risk Mobius's life if, as you claim, he wanted to save him when a more guaranteed solution had already been presented to him? I'll tell you why...because it was NOT about Mobius!

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I know i'm late and this has probably been said already but did they like chicken out of sylki or what… 

Season 1: *their feelings for each other causes a nexus event* “Do you have any good memories?” “Just one” *Loki was about to tell Sylvie he loves her* *she kisses him* 

Season 2:

Loki: where do I belong? :( 

Sylvie: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ lol bye 

dude what… no I didn’t need them to kiss and hold hands the whole time but come on…. go girl give us nothing