#(off the top of my head --- noir and ham werent at HQ so they dont seem to have been part of the spiderman society

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more atsv things that haunt me: pav doesn't originally have a watch.

#see one thing that confused me was that gwen stole bens watch before she sent him home like she already had hobies why does she need another #well. turns out it was probably because several members of the spiderband dont have their own either #(off the top of my head --- noir and ham werent at HQ so they dont seem to have been part of the spiderman society #pav as seen above didnt have one despite being in the society and hobie took his off when he quit) #so gwen probably had to track down quite a few extras actually unless hobie had a backlog of counterfeit multiverse watches on his hands #across the spiderverse #across the spiderverse spoilers #pavitr prabhakar #ok but the REAL thing i was thinking about with this post is that pav doesnt seem to know about canon events either #and despite jessica implying they had a way to contact him he also does not come back to HQ with the rest of the kids after the Spot Debacl #he doesnt seem to be able to multiverse-travel at all until gwen recruits him into the spiderband #so the implication here is that miguel doesnt generally let people become full members of spider society with all the associated privileges #unless hes sure that they'll be vulnerable and/or traumatize enough to buy into the ideology. which is kind of fucked up!