#But the reality of Zionism as an initially distinctly leftist branch of political ideology that sought to liberate an oppressed people

[rotzaprachim]

you’re thinking about how easily massive numbers of the wildly antisemitic tankies would have been pulled into the actual political tenets of (esp early to mid 20th century) armed Zionism and you’re laughing?????

#This folks is why analysis of ideology and the structures of an ideology is important #Rather than just random ass ethnic signposting #A lot of people see Zionism as something suspicious and jewy that had to do with Jews - I don’t like them #But the reality of Zionism as an initially distinctly leftist branch of political ideology that sought to liberate an oppressed people #With that tiny niggly wiggly issue of the fact people might #Already have lived on that land???? Ohhhh boy #All these cottage core back to the land the world would be better if I could reject modernity and return to the ancient ways of Farming #Society is broken it cannot be fixed the only option is to found a New Tough society that will fix all our previous problems #And we’ll get round to it in heavily armed leftist commune farming settlements #Which we will defend with violence because any violence in the name of an oppressed people is justified and our legitimacy comes from the #Rifle!!! #The only reason you see this ideology as inherently removed and bizarre is antisemitism and the only reason you see yourself removed from i #Also antisemitism!!! #You would have done numbers in ahdut ha-avoda you would have called Ben gurion abbaleh/ #Remember: a bunch of the people who got sucked into this of ideology weren’t the *rich Republican aipac Jews*!*’ your head #They were broke often very secular Jewish leftists working dead end gig economy jobs in farms and sweatshops for whom the idea of a Brave #New World with a. Brave new culture was very appealing and liberating #It offered something new to the broken. #It’s important to talk about this stuff to talk about how it can be undone #But also. The world is not divided into the Oppressed and the Unoppressed #Your political ideology does not stop you from hurting others #No political ideology even anti capitalism or leftism is innately pure- all can harm others #No ethnic and cultural identity no matter how oppressed is free from the potential to subjugate others #No identity or ideology is greater than the right of other people to live freely #Cycles of oppression and the pyramid structure of many empires result in oppressed people harming other oppressed people #Many many goyim think that they’re removed from the logic of Zionism because they aren’t Jews because it’s something wierd and jewy #But I see a lot of the most destructive logics parroted by leftists every day