#also i don’t think this is intentional on lucan’s part (unless…?)

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cic. att. 14.10.1 trans. e-pistulae / lucan, pharsalia 7.638-46 trans. a.s. kline

#i just think it is funny that cicero and lucan both make avery similar point about past events causing survivors / people born later to #experience a form of living death / political death etc #(+ i think caesar winning the civil war. in which the big victory Was the battle of pharsalus. is important to when cicero thinks the Being #Dead started) #AND YET. lucan chooses to get weird and ahistorical About Cicero Specifically and puts him in the battle of pharsalus like. for funsies #like lucan voice well maybe mr mtc You Did actually have the opportunity to do something or die about it #like. he didn’t. he extremely very much Did Not. but it is SUCH a silly coincidence #that the guy making the same complaint is the guy lucan retroactively frames as hypocritical for making that complaint #like for WHAT. i still don’t get what cicero is even doing in the pharsalia. go home marce tulli!!! #also i don’t think this is intentional on lucan’s part (unless…?) #i just see a state of living death and i’m like. oh i am going to translate this SO literally #intertextual ghosts is when you translate cicero via the lucan that doesn’t exist yet or something #epistulaeposting #cicero #pharsalia #the fear: that nothing survives. the greater fear: that something does. #beeps