#boiling down what can be a meaningful discussion about abuse and patriarchal standards into a purely blorbobrained character argument

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Annoying fandom people when you tell them characters do things based on writers’ decisions and biases and are not fully autonomous sapient beings they’re watching in a terrarium

#babbles #this is in general an ideal i hold very close in fandom stuff but like especially abt wc cuz that fandom sucks with this #i hate warriors fans so much it’s unreal. it’s not ‘these writers have weird ideas about what is romantic’ but ‘this character is toxic!!1’ #boiling down what can be a meaningful discussion about abuse and patriarchal standards into a purely blorbobrained character argument #about in universe traits like these characters are real and we need to give them counseling #because having the 500th soapbox about bramblestar or nightheart or whoever being abusive makes you feel progressive #like. i'd love to discuss for instance the misogynistic standards that the erins have as writers and how that affects their work. #i dont however care to discuss which Fictional Cat For Ten Year Olds is the most Problematic. bc that does nothing #reminds me of that tweet abt like the fatphobic trope of chars being depressed or hitting a low point and being fat slobs #and ppl came in waves like 'no it makes sense because he was depressed and xyz etc etc' like we're discussing a real person #and not constructs made by writers that show fatphobic ideologies. missed the point so hard dude. #less 'character does this' more 'writer made the character do this'. not even in criticism but in discussing themes etc etc