#but im not going to go there like some missionary and force my moral views on them. like even if it were a case of sacrifice or wtvr

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i mean whats hard to understand that there is like probably no religion or culture where its stayed exactly the same for years and no one within those culture and religion has different views

and BECAUSE a whole culture or religion is diverse in people and not clones, then only said individuals can determine what is needed to be connected to their culture or religion.

if you try and tell them no, they are wrong and they DON'T need something- then you are saying that your view is the right view- even with evidence or morals attached. which has never been a good thing

Bc again im talking individuals.

If someone feels it connects them to their god to use an animal or ties them to their culture, you have to accept that

bc like i know animals are sentient. but at the end of the day if there was a cute kitten and a human child and you had to save one im sure majority of people would save the human.

that doesnt mean they are less than. but if someone regardless of knowing sentience, personally feels that is needed to connect, to eat them or use them then you have to draw a line on who you accept and who you dont

if its for survival but not anything else then what counts as survival? for you to not die? because taking away someones personal way of connecting to their culture or religion could end up in their death.

which is why those ppl can do wtvr the fuck they want, and could even still be called vegan if they are doing what they can

bc im not about to draw lines on cultures and religions im not part of. that i have no idea others connection and spirituality and history and even whether or not their religion is real

like it ties in with being a smaller part of the population, hat in the future, would continue using animals

if we were to fix economy and the enviroment and distribution of everything and education and alternatives for animal products and everything is rainbows

there would still be some people that require that/need animal use in their INDIVIDUAL view on their culture or religion. like you could even say scientifically. because emotions and mental health etc

anyway im really high rn i hope this is coherent

and idk i just feel like recognizing those people who need animals, helps them feel more comfortable and not judged

whether they end up vegan (vegan society definition) or not, they can maybe not actively fight against us bc of what they think veganism is.

and not as some strategy to lure people in, i just genuinely love people. and i support marginalized cultures and religions??

again

every culture and religion ia going to have someone who does things differently or has a different view. thats how things become traditions and part of a culture these things didnt pop out of thin air

but you cant force it or else thats colonialism and that is bad 👎

Anyway i support the vegans that are already doing the most, yet still have/need to use animals. And that includes your individual view about your culture/religion.

i hope this makes sense

#vegan ref #like with FGM obviously im against that right. like you can disagree with culture or religion #And i would even fight for that. more so support those fighting for it. but there are laws for that. and people fighting for laws #within the culture or religion. thats the important thing. #i would only have opinions if there were no people within the religion or culture standing up and fighting for change #bc its not about my opinions. its about what the group of ppl want #bc there will always be someone who wants change even if its esting breakfast for dinner #so now breafast food is viewed as an anytime food. #but honestly. undocumented tribes who have or curently cannibalize. i can see it as wrong. but im not #wrong to kill someone i guess. i actually have no opinion bc im not in their shoes #un contacted* #but im not going to go there like some missionary and force my moral views on them. like even if it were a case of sacrifice or wtvr #so wheres the line drawn? un contacted tribes are off limits. but not everyone else and its like whats your reasoning #its ok for someone to hunt an animal for food but if that food is purely spiritual? how can you say then mental health doesnt count #its just like colonialism #like im not giving anyone a pass im just kind of broadening my scope outside my own experiences #idk how more i can explain #also when i say i have no opinion on canibalism it falls under 'is it possible and practical ' lol. bc literally #everyones situation is different #everyone is different #to make it so everyone has a more similar experience and situation then u just work on changing things around u #easy peasy. takes forever