#but seeing people babygirlify him uncritically continues to baffle me

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I don't know what you know about the pw situation since you just said teenager, but if you think that he dated a 15 year old like some might tell you, that's not true. The person who first accused Pete of dating a minor did not know him or the "minor" in question, Jeanae, and Jeanae has never made any accusation or supported any of these rumors. They started dating after she turned 18 and there is no evidence or reason to believe they were dating before then, especially considering he had been in a pretty publicly devoted relationship up until that point. He *did* date her as an 18 year old while he was in his 20s, which was a weird and scummy thing to do, and you might already know that since you could technically call an 18 year old a "teenager"... but it was at a point in his life where he was unmedicated and doing really bad mentally, the relationship was extremely toxic and terrible for both of them since Jeanae wasn't in a good place either and was very manipulative and controlling towards him, and ever since he hasn't gotten into any similar controversies or had any similar accusations made against him, all of which is why he's generally not put in the same category as known abusers or dudes who have a repeated history of being creepy to underage fans. You (and anyone else) are still free to not like him for all this of course, but I don't think anyone's "sweeping it under the rug," it's just... a piece of celebrity relationship drama from nearly two decades ago that someone completely unrelated later lied about and exaggerated to make Pete seem like a worse person than he is. To me it mirrors the cheating rumors spread about Mikey and the dozens of things Eliza's said about her relationship with Gerard. Not the mark of a fundamentally terrible person who needs to be condemned, just the result of being famous while mentally ill :/

Apologies for the block of text, hope you're having a good night

i wasnt going to reply to this at all bc when i asked the question i didnt plan on arguing given that i had very little info but i did like 4 minutes of digging and found a podcast from like 3 years ago where jeanae herself says the relationship started when she was 15 and he was 23 (its around the 23 minute mark) so like. that first part abt jeanae never saying anything to support those rumors just isnt true as of 2020. she didnt name names but given who she is and the timeline like she doesnt really have to ? and i doubt she was lying for clout on a podcast abt her ayahuasca journey

#i get that people can change and im glad that pete didnt seem to develop a Pattern of this kind of behavior #but like frankly 23 year olds mentally unwell or not have no business even hanging out with 15 year olds much less dating them #again this probably wont stop me from listening to their first 4 albums bc im a lifer in that regard #but seeing people babygirlify him uncritically continues to baffle me #also the implication that the nobody teenager dating a literal famous person 8 years her senior was the manipulative one like uh #doesnt sit well with me given the obvious power dynamics at play there ? idk dude