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And one more thing, this is more of a personal note. Yes, I understand that here we talk about passion; that when the topic is something you love/believe in you defend it with all your might, but what I have seen from some antis (and if it’s not about you, don’t take this personally, I’m talking about those I’ve seen this from), are not going to reason with you. If you say “hey, I’m a larrie, could you please tell me why you don’t think larry is real” the most common answer is (again, WHAT I HAVE SEEN) not “yes of course, take a seat, here is my opinion” but that “LARRY IS NOT REAL OPEN YOUR EYES OMG I CAN’T EVEN”. Ofc, it’s a very extreme example, but most of the times the responses hold an agressive and overly defensive tone.

Oh yeah, it’s a very simple question to answer, isn’t it. Let me walk you through how that conversation goes every single time:

Larrie: why don’t you think larry is real?

Anti: because both louis and harry denied it. [this, by the way, should be the END OF THE CONVERSATION.]

Larrie: but that was management.

Anti: no, it wasn’t.

Larrie: but what about their tattoos?

Anti: *shrug* so they have tattoos.

Larrie: but louis has an open triangle on his ankle, that’s a gay symbol

Anti: an open triangle could mean many different things, you can’t say you know what someone else’s tattoo means.

Larrie: but the anchor and the rope!

Anti: ... are very common tattoo motifs

Larrie: but louis got the dagger!

Anti: daggers and roses don’t actually go together.

Larrie: but -----

And on and on and on and on until the larrie says the anti is just blind and only listens to the media portrayal of Louis and Harry and we must think louis is a horrible father and we must be hasty hets who just want harry’s dick. Have that conversation once, it’s draining. Have it twice, thrice, ten times? Can you see why we don’t want to have the conversation anymore? It serves NO purpose except for the little larrie to run back to their friends and say they bested an anti in critical thinking. I had no intention to come out as bi on my tumblr, none at all, but holy shit it was hurtful to be called a nasty het over and over again, to my face and in subtweets.

Don’t tell me how I should deal with people. I’ve done it your way already. You didn’t see it -- doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It was ineffective and frustrating and demoralizing. I was doing it this way prior to the November presidential election. I thought, man! If I can figure out how to turn these larries away from conspiracy theorism, maybe I have a shot at all of the conspiracy theorists who support Donald Trump. Maybe I can figure out what the key to it is. What a joke. It can’t be done. There is no key to changing them. Why have the conversation at all? If a larrie REALLY wants to know why antis believe what they believe, they could do two things:

Listen to their fave and believe their fave

Read @lrambling. I send every larrie now who asks me that question in messages to lrambling.

But do larries do that? No. They send anons to stir up shit.

If you’re going to deal with people, be respectful and level headed. I understand that tumbblrdotcom is not the grocery store or the costumer service of a bank, but I can only hope that you don’t have such a temper anywhere else. If something upsets you, don’t go on raging about it, but take a deep breath and try to consider that other people have opinions too (and YES this goes to larries as well!!), and treat them as humans, not as filth on the bottom of your shoe.

I’d like you to consider that maybe larries are not all the nasty shits you see, but many of us have different opinions and believes than what you generally see by the “big” larries and their agenda. While you say “#NotAllLarries, what a bullshit”, you don’t see beyond those larries that created a stigma on us, and you put us all in the same category of being CTs.

Okay, so in one of your posts you talk about how harmful CTs are, so, just a little note on the topic. Are larries completely responsible for the act of others? I mean, yes, of course, they do say things and clearly have power over some things, but if you read in the paper an ad that idk, tea could kill you, are you going to believe it right off the bat, or are you going to do your research to know?

I’m the kind of person who researches absolutely everything that I don’t find reasonable, but are they responsible for those who don’t? Are they responsible for the act of others they have no power over, or are those responsible for their own actions by not taking their time to do research and decide whenever they believe it or not. If someone creates a blog about their love for tea, they don’t expect people to go around and shout from the top of their lungs how great tea is, because they’ve read it on a blog. They expect people to decide whether they want to drink tea or not, and if they do, and if they love it, then join the conservation about how great tea is. 

This is an old time arguement, and I’d like to know your thoughts on whenever people with an amount of followers are responsible for those who act out whithout thinking because they heard and OPINION (I highlight that, because if someone makes a post/tells them that “hey lets go and hate on people who drink coffee”, thats manipulation. And yes, I’m aware of my earlier point, how some larries make propaganda against Simon, James, etc, but it’s a big difference that they don’t promote “believe in Larry or you’re a piece of shit”, as far as I’m aware. Again, link me if you have proof otherwise).

What research does someone have to do to know that larry isn’t real? Literally all they have to do is listen to Louis and Harry. But what do larries do? They explain away those things, say it’s not real. They prevent content from reaching their followers that makes it harder to explain away those things. After Jay passed away instead of sitting back and saying “oh my god, THAT’S why Louis looked sad in all of those selfies, why he looked gaunt” they spun her illness and untimely death into MORE of the conspiracy theory! Simon or whoever the bad guy is is even MORE of a monster! THAT’S NOT NORMAL. That’s not using critical thinking skills. I don’t know what your fucking point is comparing tea to someone’s life. You don’t get to make up your mind about whether or not Louis is in a relationship with Harry. They’ve both said they aren’t. THAT’S IT. You don’t have to LIKE it, but that’s reality.

And let’s see, should a larrie who says “don’t harass his family” and then creates a conspiracy about how anything anti-larry on their social media accounts is clearly created by management, who we hate because they’re forcibly closeting louis and he WANTS TO BE OUT, HE SENDS US SIGNS, is that person responsible for a larrie leaving a nasty message on Jay’s twitter? Yes. They created the narrative that it’s not really JAY they’re harassing, it’s management, and if Jay is reading the message she KNOWS it’s just a larrie trying to protect her son. Jay would be okay with it. That’s what larries think.

You don’t get to have an opinion about someone else’s sexuality.

You don’t get to have an opinion about whether or not someone is a parent.

If someone says, “I’m straight,” you don’t get to second-guess that. Who else could possibly know? You would know better than Louis? If someone says, “this is my son and I love him,” you don’t get to have an opinion about the very concept of his fatherhood.

Are larries a persecuted religious group? They seem to think they are. “It’s just our BELIEF” they’ll whine and cry, and say us antis are treating them like Hitler treated the Jews. You know what? That belief is wrong and damaging. I’m sure you can imagine some other beliefs that are wrong and damaging and should be spoken out against, or do you think we should have let Milo speak at Berkeley, where he was going to doxx illegal immigrants? Should the antifa protestor NOT have punched Richard Spencer in the face while he was spouting his Nazi bullshit? Nazis advocate for genocide. THAT IS WRONG. But it’s just their belief right? He should be able to say it. Fuck that. 

I am NOT saying that larrie beliefs are equal in magnitude to Nazi beliefs. I am only showing that “it’s just my belief” is NOT a reason to avoid being called out for bad behavior. [Any anon sent to me on this subject is catching a block. Don’t bother.]

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