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#i havent even seen all the endings in ultra deluxe dhskhdjd
calhaspam · 2 years
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Thinking about Stanley and the narrator and... yeah. It's so hard to explain their relationship but I love it. I keep thinking about the skip ending and the narrator being so scared of being on his own, and then Stanley ends up on his own and then he's free but there's NOTHING out there. And then he's back again in his office, and the narrator's back too, and everything's normal. Do you think Stanley remembers every loop? It's hard to say if the narrator does, but Stanley can't even say anything about it.
since stanley is a representation of the player (but is also his own person with how narrator differentiates the player "you" and stanley), i have a firm belief that he's really the only one who remembers all the loops.
there are times when narrator references certain runs and even affects them if youve already done it (broom closet, bucket (1000 bumpscosity), memoryzone), but of all the things he cant remember its when hes the victim of the run (story or ending but i like calling it run). i dont think ive heard him reference the adventure line, real person, and the zending in the 2013 tsp, and weve seen that he doesnt make any reference to the skip button in ultra deluxe either. of course hes not going to reference every other run and i may be assuming here buuuuut...
there is one bit of actual evidence for narrator forgetting runs. if you watch the epilogue of ultra deluxe and once stanley repeats the game, narrator has no clue whats going on and almost panics over it. so yeah its absolutely possible he doesnt remember other runs, though which ones is hard to tell. if you check the figley ending, it shows that he DOES remember past runs of where the figleys were. except for the pink room, which is another piece of evidence he forgets.
it gets really confusing when you think about how he remembers you the player. hes aware of the player but only in certain runs (whenever he says "you", hes talking to you). if this can be considered evidence of him forgetting and remembering, its debatable. but its interesting he only mentions the player when something stanley cant normally do happens. hes also actively hostile to the player. if he cant blame it on stanley, hell blame it on the player. he never holds himself accountable. if you check the skip button dialogue, he ALWAYS blames another party.
and the biggest evidence (arguably evidence cause its based on my interpretation but if my interpretation IS true then WOW) i found is somewhere in the skip button dialogue, narrator implies that he remembers his past stressful ends from 2013 tsp and starts refering the player to dump his angry spiel.
as for evidence that stanley the character remembers. theres the epilogue! it doesnt say if he remembers everything, but it does imply it. theres also the whole process of collecting figleys, which the character will need to remember in order to get them all. (very watsonian interpretation)
oh i actually have a theory that the reason we see stanley in the desert in the epilogue is because he used the skip button ending to leave the office. we know that the narrator is very much dead when you see that desert, so seeing stanley there makes you think.
i actually found this explanation somewhere that the way the world evovles in the skip buttom ending is figurative for the narrators imagination or head, the desert signifying as his absolute death cause its empty and devoid of life.
you can also consider their roles (or your role) in traditonal storytelling! narrator is the narrator, and hes an unreliable one. stanley is the protagonist, therefore the readers way of interpeting the world. the protagonist may not know everything, but the reader does. and since tsp's medium is not actually a traditionally written story and is instead a game, being a player helps stanley (this feels lile a watsonian interpretation too with a dash of fourth wall break lol)
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