#i looked at every single 'aeneas kills turnus' painting and picked my favorite motifs from them all and then scrambled them like eggs

[brother-emperors]

haec rursus patienda manent, hoc ordine belli ibitur, hic stabit civilibus exitus armis [lucan, pharsalia], or alternatively titled, Aeneas Kills Turnus

there’s a million and seven things that went on in the ‘dialogue’ of figuring this painting out, but it’ll take like, literally 15 pages to explain, so instead I’ll pull together a thread of quotes that rattled around in my head while I made this and hope that the dots are all connectable

the aeneid, tr. fagles

the iliad, tr. fagles

blood in the arena, alison futrell

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the epodes: horace’s archilochus?, lindsay watson

the memory of philippi in horace and the interpretation of the epistle 1.20.23,  mario citroni (you know, because philippi is where the republic dies, and functions as a spectacle, funeral, and foundational sacrifice for empire, which circles back to---)

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#the aeneid #turnus #aeneas #good GOD this took like 5 days to do #i looked at every single 'aeneas kills turnus' painting and picked my favorite motifs from them all and then scrambled them like eggs #drawing tag #aeneas is intentionally meant to be a little harder to see btw. he doesn't belong to himself and so he belongs to the background #anyway so like. rome is just an awful nightmare place. that one text on trauma in greek and roman literature? #about how a place holds the memory of the trauma so the trauma and memory continues to persist and exist both before and now? #rome. awful nightmare cannibalism city. a miserable place of miserable people #it's just a fucked up circle of a city!!!!! #it just keeps repeating itself!!!!!!!!!!!! all roads lead to rome and then youre STUCK THERE IN THE GRAVE WITH EVERYONE ELSE